Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

Cheating is a conscious choice people make, I never quite understood the 'guilt' part. You made your choice, there was more than enough time to turn back, now fucking live with it and stop wallowing in self-pity.
People don't want to be a villain so you turn it into a "teaching moment" or rather a piece where you can "develop" from it. It is a type of self hate where the goal is clearly a certain reaction, not actual remorse or hatred. It is almost like narcissism honestly, and I only say almost because some do realize they are awful people they just don't care and would rather externalize the effort and forgiveness onto a new person to be their icon.
 
Wow, yet another weeb that admits to whacking it to deviant hentai while crying how it's the women's fault for the fact he decided
to plunge himself into the coom abyss and distort his views on sex and women completely?
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Anyways, I find it quite peculiar how when actual misandrist women or just women that are annoyed with moids, usually they do everything in their ability to completely disconnect and decenter men from their lives (with exceptions such as school/college, work and family in some cases) and even sometimes take extreme measures such as cutting all forms of media created by men. Basically doing the "Screw this, I'm not gonna play this stupid game" there's no grand announcement, no confetti, they're just doing it, what moids say that men are totally doing past few years because "the society doesn't need them" or some other fruity pseudo waxing poetry melodramatic sayings they do. The most extremist thing they'll probably do is write on their tumblr blog how men are subhuman dogs or repost the men commit 98% of the crime meme.

Meanwhile when moids hate women, despite constantly bitching about how women are a useless nuisance to them, how they are a burden and an obstacle, they still EXPECT women to participate in their weird incredibly homosexual misogynistic circlejerk. They actively try to find any opportunity to tell a woman how much they hate them, how much they want to revoke her rights and see her beaten/raped/tormented. It's so weird, you'd think given how much allegedly women give torment to these moids, they would avoid women, but no even in their hatred of women, they actively seek them out. Dude, just go to a mental ward or something.
 
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I think most men don't truly love their gf/wife as a person but instead love what she does for him and how she makes him feel/how she makes him look to others. Very few men actually care about their gf/wife as a person and try to find out here interests, hopes and dreams or remember details about her (like what she wants for her birthday).
”I Want a Wife” by Judy Brady, 1971: https://www.thecut.com/2017/11/i-want-a-wife-by-judy-brady-syfers-new-york-mag-1971.html

I belong to that classification of people known as wives. I am A Wife.
And, not altogether incidentally, I am a mother.
Not too long ago a male friend of mine appeared on the scene fresh
from a recent divorce. He had one child, who is, of course, with his
ex-wife. He is looking for another wife. As I thought about him while I
was ironing one evening, it suddenly occurred to me that 1, too, would
like to have a wife. Why do I want a wife?
I would like to go back to school so that I can become economically
independent, support myself, and, if need be, support those dependent
upon me. I want a wife who will work and send me to school. And while I
am going to school, I want a wife to take care of my children. I want a
wife to keep track of the children's doctor and dentist appointments. And
to keep track of mine, too. I want a wife to make sure my children eat
properly and are kept clean. I want a wife who will wash the children's
clothes and keep them mended. I want a wife who is a good nurturant
attendant to my children, who arranges for their schooling, makes sure
that they have an adequate social life with their peers, takes them to
the park, the zoo, etc. I want a wife who takes care of the children when
they are sick, a wife who arranges to be around when the children need
special care, because, of course, I cannot miss classes at school. My
wife must arrange to lose time at work and not lose the job. It may mean
a small cut in my wife's income from time to time, but I guess I can
tolerate that. Needless to say, my wife will arrange and pay for the care
of the children while my wife is working.
I want a wife who will take care of my physical needs. I want a wife
who will keep my house clean. A wife who will pick up after my children,
a wife who will pick up after me. I want a wife who will keep my clothes
clean, ironed, mended, replaced when need be, and who will see to it that
my personal things are kept in their proper place so that I can find what
I need the minute I need it. I want a wife who cooks the meals, a wife
who is a good cook. I want a wife who will plan the menus, do the
necessary grocery shopping, prepare the meals, serve them pleasantly, and
then do the cleaning up while I do my studying. I want a wife who will
care for me when I am sick and sympathize with my pain and loss of time
from school. I want a wife to go along when our family takes a vacation
so that someone can continue to care for me and my children when I need a
rest and change of scene.
I want a wife who will not bother me with rambling complaints about a
wife's duties. But I want a wife who will listen to me when I feel the
need to explain a rather difficult point I have come across in my course
studies. And I want a wife who will type my papers for me when I have
written them.
I want a wife who will take care of the details of my social life.
When my wife and I are invited out by my friends, I want a wife who will
take care of the baby-sitting arrangements. When I meet people at school
that I like and want to entertain, I want a wife who will have the house
clean, will prepare a special meal, serve it to me and my friends, and
not interrupt when I talk about things that interest me and my friends. I
want a wife who will have arranged that the children are fed and ready
for bed before my guests arrive so that the children do not bother us. I
want a wife who takes care of the needs of my guests so that they feel
comfortable, who makes sure that they have an ashtray, that they are
passed the hors d'oeuvres, that they are offered a second helping of the
food, that their wine glasses are replenished when necessary, that their
coffee is served to them as they like it. And I want a wife who knows
that sometimes I need a night out by myself.
I want a wife who is sensitive to my sexual needs, a wife who makes
love passionately and eagerly when I feel like it, a wife who makes sure
that I am satisfied. And, of course, I want a wife who will not demand
sexual attention when I am not in the mood for it. I want a wife who
assumes the complete responsibility for birth control, because I do not
want more children. I want a wife who will remain sexually faithful to me
so that I do not have to clutter up my intellectual life with jealousies.
And I want a wife who understands that my sexual needs may entail more
than strict adherence to monogamy. I must, after all, be able to relate
to people as fully as possible.
If, by chance, I find another person more suitable as a wife than the
wife I already have, I want the liberty to replace my present wife with
another one. Naturally, I will expect a fresh, new life; my wife will
take the children and be solely responsible for them so that I am left free.
When I am through with school and have a job, I want my wife to quit
working and remain at home so that my wife can more fully and completely
take care of a wife's duties.
My God, who wouldn't want a wife?
 
Immense gaslighting in the comments pretending men don’t constantly talk about this and there aren’t male millionaires who made that money preaching these exact concepts. They don’t even think to empathise or imagine it’s true they default to turning the blame back on women automatically.
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Older women remember what it's like being a younger woman that old men prey on and that's why they warn about these types of relationships. Because of personal experience and wanting to protect other women from what they have been through. Trust that no older woman is jealous that the emotionally stunted abusive creepy 50 year old that is creeping on 18 year old girls doesn't want her. They are way past that catty competition stage of life. Men never grow out of it through so they can only project.
 
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Older women remember what it's like being a younger woman that old men prey on and that's why they warn about these types of relationships. Because of personal experience and wanting to protect other women from what they have been through. Trust that no older woman is jealous that the emotionally stunted abusive creepy 50 year old that is creeping on 18 year old girls doesn't want her. They are way past that catty competition stage of life. Men never grow out of it through so they can only project.
It's so culty. How dare apostates from the cock carousel warn younger women that men are a waste of their time and energy? Silence the infidels!

Immense gaslighting in the comments pretending men don’t constantly talk about this and there aren’t male millionaires who made that money preaching these exact concepts. They don’t even think to empathise or imagine it’s true they default to turning the blame back on women automatically.
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Moids think agreeing with dumbass platitudes about women and arguing about the merits of whether they're homosexual for jerking off to men in dresses counts as having an inner life. I find the fact that Andrew Tate made millions scamming these fucking retards into giving him money to hear "hurr durr women dumb bitches" actually a dark kind of genius, I just wish he was a hired actor doing a bit for a woman making bank off a million retarded moids' insecurities.
 
I would grow bitter too if I sacrificed everything for a men and he acts like growing old is a sin.

But real talk: When women complain about something like this moids always act like women either hate young women or hate hot women. Even though it's clearly not the problem. It's solid advice to get therapy if you hit a low in your life. Ever asked yourself why female loneliness isn't so high? Women are way more likely to admit that there something wrong and seek help.

Not only you don't understand her jokes, she has way more engery than you.

Trust that no older woman is jealous that the emotionally stunted abusive creepy 50 year old that is creeping on 18 year old girls doesn't want her.
Imagine thinking that have the enegry for taking care of a fucking toddler when you're in your late 50s. I mean those moids want to be a father after all.
 
Thinking back to my grandparents, who at least in my nostalgic mind had a perfect 1950s trad relationship.
  • Whenever there was a new baby, an older female relative of Grandma's choosing would move in for at least a month to pamper Grandma, keep house, and boss Grandpa around.
  • Grandma never had a driver's license. Grandpa had to drive everyone anywhere they couldn't walk (I lol every time Rekieta complains about driving his kids around)
  • Grandpa took care of every chore outside of the home up to Grandma's standards, he was expected to know how to complete minor car repair, plumbing, and general household maintenance tasks.
  • Grandpa took equal share in raising the children once out of infancy, he was expected to be the main/sole disciplinarian of all children and take lead of his sons once they were teens.
  • Grandpa was expected to earn enough to maintain their modest middle class lifestyle, but his paycheck was turned over to Grandma to budget and manage. He was expected to earn enough by himself no matter what.
  • Grandma would get her hair and nails done every single week, and new jewelry or quality clothing for every birthday and anniversary.
  • Fidelity and love after years, hard times, wrinkles, and the burden of many children.
Moids like to imagine a trad relationship as them having a slave mommywife, while only having to work a standard wage cuck shift themselves in return. They expect their trad wife to work outside the home when their kids reach some age or "muh inflation" or other sorry excuses. They don't have any skills or desirable qualities or actual love and care for women. They want total control but zero responsibility. They want children but shame mothers, degrade their bodies, and ignore their needs. They want a legacy but don't want to be fathers. They don't have anything to offer anymore.
 
Men need mines and wars without it they become troons
Men should all be put into a bootcamp from 16-21 where other men yell at them to clean up after themselves, make their bed, shower and wash their ass and do physical exercises to manage their raging hormones and anger issues. Imagine how much society would improve...

Preferably without weapon training and instead just things like team building exercises so they can function in a workplace environment without being lazy slobs everyone else has to drag along.
 
Men should all be put into a bootcamp from 16-21 where other men yell at them to clean up after themselves, make their bed, shower and wash their ass and do physical exercises to manage their raging hormones and anger issues. Imagine how much society would improve...

Preferably without weapon training and instead just things like team building exercises so they can function in a workplace environment without being lazy slobs everyone else has to drag along.
Men inherently yearn for homoerotic power dynamics and when you bring this up they freak the fuck out and back pedal and try to tell you it isn’t like that. Everything having to do with machismo is about impressing or dominating other men. There is precious little more gay than chasing the fantasy of being a chad.
 
Men should all be put into a bootcamp from 16-21 where other men yell at them to clean up after themselves, make their bed, shower and wash their ass and do physical exercises to manage their raging hormones and anger issues. Imagine how much society would improve...

Preferably without weapon training and instead just things like team building exercises so they can function in a workplace environment without being lazy slobs everyone else has to drag along.
@Lidl Drip ideal society is just the citystate of Sparta.

Men growing up in Sparta:
Spartan society began to focus increasingly on military preparedness to prevent further slave revolts and other threats to their people. A large population of slaves to do manual labor also incidentally allowed for the creation of a standing army. This was reinforced with the formation of the Spartan education system known as the agoge.

The agoge consisted of a strict training program which would prepare boys to become warriors. This education system was designed to create hardened citizen-soldiers who would be loyal to the Spartan state.

Boys were raised by their mothers until the age of 7. At this age, they would be taken and placed in in the agoge, or school. Spartan boys would be taught reading, writing, singing, dancing, morality, and history, but they would also be taught physical endurance. The boys would be underfed, not to the point where they were starving, but still enough that they would always be training on an empty stomach.

If the boys wanted more food, they were told to steal but severely punished if caught. This was likely to teach the boys to develop stealth skills which would be important as soldiers. They were also only given one garment and they were not given any shoes so that the soles of their feet would become tough. It was said that bare-footed Spartan warriors could outrun any shoe-clad Greek citizen of another city-state.

By the age of 20, after several years of additional training after finishing the agoge at about age 16, a Spartan man was deemed ready to become part of the standing army of Spartan citizen soldiers. He would live in the barracks with his fellow soldiers and could be called to war at any time by the Spartan state. This period of service would last until the age of 30. At the age of 30, Spartan men, after ten years of military service, would become full citizens and be expected to marry. All men between the ages of 20 and 60 were considered potential soldiers if Sparta were to go to war.

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Women growing up in Sparta:
Women in Sparta were also expected to be highly educated.

They were taught to read and write and were encouraged to engage in intellectual pursuits.

This education was not only for personal development, but also to enable women to participate in public life.

In fact, Spartan women were known for their intelligence and political savvy, and often played a role in decision-making in their households and the wider community.
Childhood of Spartan girls

Girls in Sparta were raised to be strong and healthy, just like the boys.

They received an education in physical fitness, athletics, and combat skills, which included activities such as running, wrestling, and throwing the javelin.

They were also taught to read and write, although their education focused more on practical skills than on the literary and artistic pursuits that were valued in other Greek cities.

Spartan girls were expected to be physically tough and self-sufficient, and they were encouraged to be competitive with their peers.

These skills would prepare them for the challenges they would face as women in Spartan society, where they were expected to bear strong, healthy sons who would become soldiers.

Primary expectations

Spartan women were also responsible for ensuring the survival of the state.

Spartan men were expected to dedicate their lives to military service, and as a result, the number of Spartan citizens, who could become soldiers, remained relatively small.

To address this issue, Spartan women were encouraged to have multiple children, and were honored for their reproductive prowess.

Some scholars believe that Spartan women who died in childbirth were celebrated as heroes. However, this view has been questioned in recent times.

Spartan women enjoyed some freedoms that were not available to girls in other Greek cities.

For example, they were allowed to own their own property and to participate in public life.

In comparison to the city-state of Athens, where women were largely confined to their own home, Spartan women enjoyed much more freedom.

Women in Spartan society were primarily expected to marry and have children, but they were encouraged to choose their own husbands and to continue to participate in public life afterwards.

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Marriage in Sparta:
Spartan women seem to have married relatively late in comparison to their counterparts elsewhere in Greece. While Athenian women might have expected to marry for the first time around the age of fourteen to men much older than them, Spartan women normally married between the ages of eighteen and twenty to men close to them in age.[31] Spartan men under the age of thirty were not permitted to live with their wives, instead they were expected to live communally with other members of their syssitia. Due to the husband's absence, women were expected to run the household largely alone.[32] Unlike in Athens, where state ideology held that men were in charge of the household, Sue Blundell argues that in Sparta it is likely that women's control of the domestic sphere was accepted, and possibly even encouraged, by the state.

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The boys would be underfed, not to the point where they were starving, but still enough that they would always be training on an empty stomach.

If the boys wanted more food, they were told to steal but severely punished if caught.
Idk this just sounds like it will yield mentally damaged psycho moids and probably something the adult moids cooked up as a power fantasy to torture kids. I just want them to be given discipline and structure so they can grow up into functional, pleasant to be around men, who contribute to society without whining, not torture.
 
All women should be issued a large dog that is trained to hate men and will bark and bite at them if they get too close. Men should have to carry high value treats at all times in order to have a girlfriend. Men should have to slowly earn a dog's trust over time in order to get within leash distance of a woman. Men should fear immediate mauling should they violate a woman. Married men should have to show their value as a potential father of a human child by first caring for a 70 lb rabid animal that hates them.
 
Sparta was in no way whatsoever a society we should look to emulate. The citizen army was funded by an enormous mass of slaves, who were poorly treated even by the standards of the time. When the state eventually failed (due to overly restrictive citizenship laws and a complete lack of any form of reform over centuries due to an outrageously conservative legislature), it left behind absolutely nothing of value. Sparta was a city that developed into a few mud huts and a laughingstock for the Roman world, and today we can’t even remember them for works of art or literature, unlike just about every other Greek city, town, or even village, because they made none. All we get is the legend of Thermopylae, which is more an example of how good the Spartans were at propaganda than anything else (the battle was won by the Thebans, who constituted the vast majority of the forces). 300 Spartans held off 200000 Persians, sure, but the ones doing the fighting were 700 Thespians and 6000 Thebans.
 
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