Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

thank you, it really is especially worse for me because of my size. I get mistaken for being younger than I actually am. this means unfortunately young people and older men harass me. I'm scared I'm going to be decades older and still be heckled like I am now.

I could be covered up entirely in the winter and still be hassled... i unfortunately have stories relating to this, maybe I'll share more of tales of my male miseries another time.

Thankfully the job I have right now is very limited in the people I see; animal-centered. but it is very intensive, overtime every week. I hate to sound like... "a girl", but lately I've been having to look in the mirror and realize no matter how hard I try, I can't be as tough or resilient as a man. Starting to wear on me physically. I don't have much meat on my bones or fat for that matter so I'm worried about fainting or my heart going out on me. I've worked a lot of labor/physical jobs to stay out of the customer light but I still have dealt with creeps and weirdo coworkers in those fields.

I think it's the city. It's only getting worse.

Maybe I could start taking classes for certifications for things, like sterilization lab work is something I see a lot of listings for. I hate the idea of wasting my time on certifications... not being able to get experience or, applying the knowledge to something that would separate me from the rest of the lot getting certified for the job too. i am currently a college student but my degree is in foreign language crap I probably will never find a job for.

Here's another story, but of the cis male variety. I used to take public transit for a food job i worked. worst time of my life. A nasty stinky hairy man sat next to me on the bus stop and asked me rudely for the time, and when I responded, he looked at me and his expression softened... but it was that creepy, predatory kind. Like insidious. felt disgusted because when he smiled at me I could see his nasty cryptkeeper teeth. He tried to talk to me but I couldn't understand him because he was Indian or something, sorry I'm not really apt distinguishing the bestial dialects being spat at me. The bus comes and he tries to sit next to me but I put my backpack next to me and then he sits behind me. I thought it was going to be the end of it but God is cruel to me and so was this man, he decided to take his nasty shoes off while the bus was in motion. The smell was so bad the bus driver became upset. he stopped the bus and threatened not to move until the man either put his shoes back on or left. He decided to put his shoes back on. This man then tried to scrawl his phone number on some newspaper he found on the floor and slide it to me from the side of the windows and seat and tried grabbing me and reaching out to give it to me as I left the bus.
 
I hate to sound like... "a girl", but lately I've been having to look in the mirror and realize no matter how hard I try, I can't be as tough or resilient as a man. Starting to wear on me physically. I don't have much meat on my bones or fat for that matter so I'm worried about fainting or my heart going out on me. I've worked a lot of labor/physical jobs to stay out of the customer light but I still have dealt with creeps and weirdo coworkers in those fields
Take some martial arts classes. Your size isn’t an issue — loads of kids and teenagers take them and do well. It would increase your confidence a lot, I think, if you knew you could defend yourself. In my experience, martial arts is tough work, so you won’t see trannies there or worthless moids like you would in a regular gym. The teachers should also be able to help you gain muscle and good weight so that your body feels better.
Maybe I could start taking classes for certifications for things, like sterilization lab work is something I see a lot of listings for. I hate the idea of wasting my time on certifications... not being able to get experience or, applying the knowledge to something that would separate me from the rest of the lot getting certified for the job too. i am currently a college student but my degree is in foreign language crap I probably will never find a job for.
I don’t know what country you are in, but a community college would help you with job placement after you earn the required certifications. The medical professions are great for women; your language experience would be an asset, too. Education is also a good choice - despite the perception, most teachers, especially on the elementary level, are completely normal older women who just enjoy working with kids.

Men of all colors are gross, but pajeets have to be some of the worst. Absolutely horrible with personal hygiene and space. Public transportation is just awful for that kind of thing. There are ways you can make yourself look older if you want; you would probably feel more secure and attract less unwanted attention.
 
so weird how men’s rights activists write insane fanfictions on the lives of women with deep conspiracy theories on how they work and endless logical dead ends with efforts to use naturalistic fallacies to justify biases without following the rationale to the unfavourable conclusions it can easily “prove“ about men too.

meanwhile, men can’t hide what people know them to be. they show people every day. everybody knows the repulsion only men can inspire. society plays little games where they say “people” instead of “men” when talking about the evil moral failings of “humanity” when again, it’s men. but when it comes down to it, everyone knows. this very website is a testament to that, the depths of it will never compare to what the occasional, lone, Bad Woman does. they want to be treated like their fantasy of how women are treated, they crave male approval but are low status so lash out more at women because they feel insecure about their place in the moid hierarchy. they love terms like coddling & lacking accountability when attacking women and it’s the most insane projection of all time.
 
(at this point my boyfriend and I couldn't decide if we wanted to leave, or if we wanted to stay and listen to how the conversation went... we stayed).
This is current relationship goals for me, honestly. Poor girl, I put up with a lot more crap in my 20s on dates than I do now.

Also stop bothering with anything over 30 i am not joking when i say its the leftovers . Get someone from the zoomers . Milenial men are straight up for the dumpster nothing to offer demanding everything in return.
I am not completely opposed to dating younger, but I have always dated people older than me and I prefer it. I don't know what it is, but when I see zoomers zooming about, all I can see are a bunch of unkempt children. They just look so young and make me feel very approaching middle-aged.
 
why don't all these men seething about women being allegedly terrible bodyguards do their jobs instead? Why don't they sign up to be a bodyguard? Why don't they put their mouth where the money is by protecting the people and their country's values they so allegedly care about?
They have no concept of self improvement, or self development at all for that matter. Your post alone is more introspection into their psyche than they'd have themselves with their well-done grilled brains.
In these men's minds, their country's culture, tradition, values and democracy is being defiled, they are becoming a minority in their own homeland and doomed to perish, yet they are doing nothing about it. NOTHING.
It's because they simply don't want to put any effort in, and their only marketable skill lies in bitching online. You'd think people with such boners for architecture, history, art, literature, science, math, sociology - people who profess that their minds are inherently superior - would want to actually pursue any of those things in the real world. But no, actually academia is plagued by the Woke librulz so your only option is to sit in your room and whine about how unfair the world is (and by doing so, slowly growing detached to how the real world operates. This is a big reason why so many Twitter dude bros are fucking hysterically disconnected from reality)
Trade school, personal fitness, hygiene, skincare, interpersonal relationships, imagination, curiosity, productive hobbies - these are things they are literally incapable of imagining unless you slap a "Xmaxxing" label in front of it, and even then you'll have to dangle the prospect of getting a woman or money or some other thing out of it for them to even consider trying any of it
(in the case of incels, they just blow their heads or dicks off).
People bitching about the "lonely male epidemic :(" need to realize that it's entirely a self fulfilling prophecy. No, these fucking retards aren't depressed or clinically incapable of doing anything worthwhile with their lives, they're just so eternally mad that they can't rape and cheat their way around like they used to and they hijack actual explanations to try and seem like it's justified. When your therapist says women are people too, it's just "le feminist systum" trying to plant "Wokeness" in your brain. When they try to give you meds, it's them trying to make you a sheeple sissy libtard! But the Alpha male Twitter accounts you follow that say rape is justifiable and chugging raw milk will solve all your problems are totally challenging those dumb feminazis! They'll save Europa!
It's drinking the kool aid, buying into delusions and fiction because reality hurts their fragile little egos - they're no different from troons in this escapist regard.

Or maybe ugly burn scars from walking into a fire to save his family. Something that he did for his family that required self sacrifice, just like a woman who gives birth. Not many men even come close to ever doing something like that.
Whenever I meet an incel I bring up Patrick Hardison, a firefighter whose face got burned off when a roof collapsed over him
His wife stayed with him for fourteen fucking years as a horrific burn victim.
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Fourteen fucking years of waking up next to someone that would traumatize a kid, and they're still together and raised 4 kids together. I don't doubt they got bullied for their dad too
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Medical miracle aside, your average incel has absolutely no rebuttal for this other than bullshit guesses. If you showed the average incel the middle two pictures they'd immediately jump to saying that she was getting blacked by Tyrone or divorce-raped him after the incident or whatever cuck fantasy comes to mind. They're so stuck up their own asses with the jealousy of supermodel-tier beauty that they genuinely have no understanding of how people work anymore, which is why I think forced reeducation (or euthanasia if they're elliot rodger tier) is the only way forward for these vermin
 
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I think a better comparison would be a man who has a hunch from many years of hard manual labor in order to feed his family or maybe has a very withered face on only one side from driving a truck like this guy.

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Or maybe ugly burn scars from walking into a fire to save his family. Something that he did for his family that required self sacrifice, just like a woman who gives birth. Not many men even come close to ever doing something like that.

Would anyone ever ask if women found that attractive? Imagine a woman suggested this man get plastic surgery to fix himself up again. But it's fine when it's a woman who risked her life to birth triplets, she needs to get that "fixed" according to the comments from men under that tweet. Because apparently women's biggest crime is being unattractive to random men she's not even married to. God I hate them so much.

I bet you that account is run by an Indian man or other type of third world brown.
It just hit me that half the problem is because not enough moids die at work anymore. The moids yearn for the mines, and it is by pure cruelty to us all (women and men alike) that the option is gone
Edit: I replied to the wrong thing, fuck. I meant to reply to a post about sexed labor and the rise of white collar jobs

I hate the city. how do you escape? besides enlisting in the military, or marrying to some stranger, or selling my body, what do I do? necking myself seems like the only option.
Doublepost, idfc
It depends on where you are, if you're in the US the best I can recommend to find a nice suburban-ish area and apply to whatever jobs exist. Midwest is probably your best option, since they actually have jobs and the southeast is getting invaded. Also please get a gun and learn how to use and maintain it. Good luck, and stay safe!
 
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I am not completely opposed to dating younger, but I have always dated people older than me and I prefer it. I don't know what it is, but when I see zoomers zooming about, all I can see are a bunch of unkempt children. They just look so young and make me feel very approaching middle-aged.
Lady some of the zoomers are in their late 20s if they look like kids to you once you start talking to them about work, taxes and mortgages you will realize they are adults. I have no idea how big or small your town is but try to get someone from a smaller town and working trades assuming you want family and a husband. Guys in laptop caste get way too much attention and they think they are gods gift to women and they don't make by that much more than tradies.

Your other options are guys with kids wanting free babysitter, guys is their late 40s freaking out about their own mortality and wanting kids , men who just went through cancer scare and realizing they can't do this alone . Etc.

Most of these men don't want genuine connection but what you can do for them. A nurse and a purse. Try it what you got to lose. My childs father is a zoomer and he is far level headed than most men i ever dated.

Seriously milenial men fucked the dating scene so hard for zoomies that zoomies would insta marry anything that isn't completely insane or total trollop.
 
Men will shame women for being childless, while candidly discussing how their own children are money drains. Just mgtow things.


If a woman said this, expect to hear enjoy being eaten by your cats."
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What happens when men are told to carry on their bloodline, aka actually follow their own standards? This:
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But we're called selfish if we go childfree.

"I love my kids...but they're a fucking money drain."
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Men don't deserve children.
 
Men will shame women for being childless, while candidly discussing how their own children are money drains. Just mgtow things.


If a woman said this, expect to hear enjoy being eaten by your cats."
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What happens when men are told to carry on their bloodline, aka actually follow their own standards? This:
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But we're called selfish if we go childfree.

"I love my kids...but they're a fucking money drain."
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Men don't deserve children.
I don't think becoming a parent is the only way to be happy but it is obviously an extremely valuable commitment that bring fulfillment to most people's lives. No one cares if these guys want to be childless and I am glad if they are truly choosing to stay away from women. However, the last guy has kids that are already born so talking about them this way is weird, like what would he rather be doing that is more important than taking care of his own offspring?

Everyone needs to stop being so dramatic about whether others should or shouldn't have kids. Some will and some won't. It's a coin toss and this is how it's always been, get over it. If you have kids and raise them well, that is a great contribution to the world. If you don't have kids, it's okay too, you can do different things to be a productive member of society. "Everyone/no one should have children" are both unrealistic to live by.

Not everyone should reproduce on the basis of genetics alone, a lot of moids in particular have incel traits that need to be wiped out so future generations suffer less. Besides that, an unignorable amount of people are unfit for parenthood because they would be abusive or neglectful, it is evil to insist they must breed. Antinatalists are also retarded, like nigger if you think all birth is unethical because life is just so terrible, why haven't you killed yourself yet? Even if you personally want to die, it doesn't mean everyone else should too.

Of course, the reason why the world is so intense when it comes to this subject is they care deeply about women's life decisions. That's what most of these arguments revolve around. Whether women are having too many or not enough kids, there will be people from different political views who think it's the end of the world. It isn't.

Like you said, when a woman says the exact same thing as these dudes in the comments, thousands of moids start seething about how she will die alone, hit the wall, become a cat lady, blah blah blah, the classics. What I noticed in the antinatalist crowd is that they tend be way more judgmental of women that have kids than men, you hear the typical misogynistic talking points directed at pregnant women. But a moid may or may not choose to breed and he's just living his life either way, no one bats an eye.
 
I have no idea how big or small your town is but try to get someone from a smaller town and working trades assuming you want family and a husband. Guys in laptop caste get way too much attention and they think they are gods gift to women and they don't make by that much more than tradies.
I live in a city and do not have any plans to move at the moment. I have dated guys who work in a trade as opposed to more "white collar" work. Honestly? If this is a trend in the laptop caste (good one, stealing it) I'll need to avoid them, this guys attitude left much to be desired.

Your other options are guys with kids wanting free babysitter, guys is their late 40s freaking out about their own mortality and wanting kids , men who just went through cancer scare and realizing they can't do this alone . Etc.
That's fine: more sad, geriatric cock for me! Today is looking up.
 
A comic where the artist describes her experience of seeing pornography for the first time: as a girl, she discovered that her stepfather had watched an incest porno where the actress looked similar to her. A few weeks, she dyed her hair in a different color to negate that.
https://www.tumblr.com/female-terrorism/752860509184851968/
https://archive.md/JJV2Y
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Some users in the comments describe similar childhood experiences, including one woman whose dad actually went out of his way to watch pornography on her computer despite having a computer of his own. Below are a few examples:
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A comic where the artist describes her experience of seeing pornography for the first time: as a girl, she discovered that her stepfather had watched an incest porno where the actress looked similar to her. A few weeks, she dyed her hair in a different color to negate that.
https://www.tumblr.com/female-terrorism/752860509184851968/
https://archive.md/JJV2Y
Some users in the comments describe similar childhood experiences, including one woman whose dad actually went out of his way to watch pornography on her computer despite having a computer of his own. Below are a few examples:
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*Redditor voice* It is none of your business and toxic of you to imply that porn is not a healthy way to explore your sexuality when Dr. Goldstein has proven that being a coomer cures cancer. You have no right to snoop, his browsing history that you had the misfortune to stumble upon is his private life but you kinkshame him like a prude. You sound boring in bed OP
 
A comic where the artist describes her experience of seeing pornography for the first time: as a girl, she discovered that her stepfather had watched an incest porno where the actress looked similar to her. A few weeks, she dyed her hair in a different color to negate that.
https://www.tumblr.com/female-terrorism/752860509184851968/
https://archive.md/JJV2Y
Some users in the comments describe similar childhood experiences, including one woman whose dad actually went out of his way to watch pornography on her computer despite having a computer of his own. Below are a few examples:
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I would kms if my dad had a Tiktok. I feel horrible for young girls growing up now with fathers who publicly display their thirst for women (their daughters age) on social media. These stories are going to become a lot more common and these girls will just be told by everyone that it's "normal". We live in hell.
 
*Redditor voice* It is none of your business and toxic of you to imply that porn is not a healthy way to explore your sexuality when Dr. Goldstein has proven that being a coomer cures cancer. You have no right to snoop, his browsing history that you had the misfortune to stumble upon is his private life but you kinkshame him like a prude. You sound boring in bed OP
"No offense OP, but, gently, maybe it has nothing to do with you? Kind of weird and narcissistic to assume that. Studies indicate over and over that men of all ages are attracted to girls 17-20 so this is pretty normal, but it doesn't mean he's attracted to you specifically. As long as he treats you normally and seems happy with your mom, that's all that matters. I know purity culture has prudes clutching their pearls over porn but it is normal and healthy for men... and even if he does have these urges, tbh it's good that he has an outlet. Would you rather he have nothing to jerk off to and fantasize about, and come after you instead?"

Natural mathematic reverse of the logic they apply to women who don't want to send nudes or have sex within 40 minutes of meeting a guy. "He'll just get it from somewhere else so you might as well give in or risk losing him!"
 
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