Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

I read that perhaps I was too picky, perhaps I had too many needs in a partner, perhaps I was too superficial and unwilling to give less attractive men a chance.
No. Never go against your instinct to be "picky." To act otherwise is adopting a scarcity mindset. Too many people have a scarcity mindset for not only relationships, but also employers, and their governance. There is a difference between acting entitled/rude and having reasonably high standards.
 
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that comment section was so awful i was convinced that the stream had to have been shared somewhere or something. just to add on, it's really interesting to me all the tradlarpers looked at the same graph on /pol/ about voting demographics, saw women voted blue, and all constructed the same mouse traps in their head about women. you can see it in the chat on the clip, the moment he started talking sense about how the ideas they hold are retarded and lead to problems they can't do anything but run to their tired old memes. 'well she chose to fuck him,' 'raised by a single mom,' 'troon,' 'feminist.' they simply cannot acknowledge the fact that their ideology puts women in a no-win scenario where she has to go out with a man, but not be a slut, give a child, and don't you dare think about birth control, and still be shamed for being picky or choosing wrong even if they are aware that the man was manipulative. i have to agree with josh that they really do lack the ability to empathize because all it would take to realize how grim of a situation women would be in in the chud utopia is imagine yourself as one. so scared of being called tranny they've gotten rid of their empathy for half the planet.
 
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that comment section was so awful i was convinced that the stream had to have been shared somewhere or something. just to add on, it's really interesting to me all the tradlarpers looked at the same graph on /pol/ about voting demographics, saw women voted blue, and all constructed the same mouse traps in their head about women. you can see it in the chat on the clip, the moment he started talking sense about how the ideas they hold are retarded and lead to problems they can't do anything but run to their tired old memes. 'well she chose to fuck him,' 'raised by a single mom,' 'troon,' 'feminist.' they simply cannot acknowledge the fact that their ideology puts women in a no-win scenario where she has to go out with a man, but not be a slut, give a child, and don't you dare think about birth control, and still be shamed for being picky or choosing wrong even if they are aware that the man was manipulative. i have to agree with josh that they really do lack the ability to empathize because all it would take to realize how grim of a situation women would be in in the chud utopia is imagine yourself as one. so scared of being called tranny they've gotten rid of their empathy for half the planet.
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Low Emotional Intelligence is a real problem. You could send them all to Squatch Rape Planet, and while Bigfoot was having his post nut smoke, they'd be right back to Waahhhmen posting, having learned nothing.
 
Honestly, when I read this thread my first instinct from inside my social bubble "it can't really be that bad here, we're supposed to be more enlightened nordic nation right?"

But then I remember certain things, like how marital rape was made illegal during my lifetime, or how we got new consent law that require explicit consent from both parties short while ago. And how they *had* to craft laws that make sending pictures of your penis sexual harassment. Or how just last week, there was an article in biggest magazine around here, where one reporter decided to investigate groping. By wearing a dress and going to bars and keeping count. And compared it with her frend who was wearing some more regular street clothes (it didn't deter people). And bazillion other examples, like when I got groped and fondled in train by two drunken grannies during my conscription period one lady friend commented "welcome to our life". Nvm that as much as certain people would like to make it issue about asylum seekers, foreign students or whatnot, it's still in the end Pekka and other good ole boys doing the most of it. Thank god I had pretty decent male role models in my life.

And I guess I could always go on tirade from stories I've heard from the missus about what kinda messages she got during short while she was on e-dating site we met, or how coddled, violent, entitled and honestly not that intelligent person her ex was. To the point her mum would probably geld the dude with two bricks if she'd ever see him again.

I'm ready for my threadban, I'll go get me coat.
 
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Decided to clip Josh's recent rant on men, particularly terminally online /pol/tards who blame white women for everything.
Null made very balanced, logical points here and any moid who gets triggered by trying to see things from a non-"REEEEE WOMEN REEEEEEEEEE!!!" perspective for one second is never going to be able to have a healthy relationship. The comment section is upset simply because he did not antagonize white women and made statements that hold shitty moids accountable.

But what do they want? What type of person would benefit from a society where you are not allowed to leave a marriage no matter what? They're the ones women would absolutely want to run away from. If you are a man who is confident in his ability to maintain a relationship, you would have no reason to fear divorce so much. Contrary to the common fagosphere misconception, most women are not leaving a marriage for fun. They're leaving abusive psychos, cheaters, coomers, moids with self-destructive behaviors, deadbeat dads. It is not a super rare occasion that a moid fucking sucks, these husbands getting dumped deserve it.
 
Honestly what I'm gathering, is that men have severe self awareness issues. I'm a fucking loser myself but I am *aware* of it and I don't believe I'm owed jack shit. I can sympathize with some shit being said here which makes me feel better about myself I guess.
(I dunno, some shit in here kinda resonates because of some of the male company I keep)
That being said, Josh was pretty on the money.
 
that comment section was so awful i was convinced that the stream had to have been shared somewhere or something. just to add on, it's really interesting to me all the tradlarpers looked at the same graph on /pol/ about voting demographics, saw women voted blue, and all constructed the same mouse traps in their head about women. you can see it in the chat on the clip, the moment he started talking sense about how the ideas they hold are retarded and lead to problems they can't do anything but run to their tired old memes. 'well she chose to fuck him,' 'raised by a single mom,' 'troon,' 'feminist.' they simply cannot acknowledge the fact that their ideology puts women in a no-win scenario where she has to go out with a man, but not be a slut, give a child, and don't you dare think about birth control, and still be shamed for being picky or choosing wrong even if they are aware that the man was manipulative. i have to agree with josh that they really do lack the ability to empathize because all it would take to realize how grim of a situation women would be in in the chud utopia is imagine yourself as one. so scared of being called tranny they've gotten rid of their empathy for half the planet.
The whole comment section is a nightmare blunt rotation.

>I turned off immediately when Josh asked the viewers to imagine themselves as women in a /pol/tard's utopia
It's really funny how they refuse to lend even an ounce of empathy of women, but most likely they are the types of men who barge in any discussion about issue women face
going "WHAT ABOUT MEN THOUGH???" and wants women to empathize with their issues such as >male loneliness epidemic or some other flavor of the month "men suffer in silence"
issue.

>(White) women are the most catered groups of people
Yeah because when I think of the most catered group, I think of a group that was purposefully barred from getting education and being able to work, was unable to own property and their own finances, couldn't divorce or get away from their husbands in cases of abuse with society around that group unironically thinking that they should stick with their abusers or otherwise they're bad wives, couldn't even have their own bodily autonomy all until very recently. But I guess that's nothing compared to the actual disfranchisement white men feel of not being able to act like annoying manchild frat bros and not being ballwashed/catered by media industries anymore, the industries that they totally hate btw.
Null made very balanced, logical points here and any moid who gets triggered by trying to see things from a non-"REEEEE WOMEN REEEEEEEEEE!!!" perspective for one second is never going to be able to have a healthy relationship. The comment section is upset simply because he did not antagonize white women and made statements that hold shitty moids accountable.
For all the "LOL NULL IS A CHILD OF SINGLE HOUSEHOLD!!" comments moids like to make whether it's on Youtube or on this site, ironically enough most of them act the very same way they like to imagine children from terrible divorced/single-household act. Because the moment Null makes a comment whether its criticizing /pol/brained delusional takes, not liking wholesome chinese cartoons or just making a very offhand remark about their online father figure, suddenly all the "NULL IS A PRODUCT OF A SINGLE-CHILD HOUSEHOLD" dudes are on their way to show their best impression of a 5-year old throwing a temper tantrum at a Walmart because their BITCH MOMMY doesn't want to buy them the new toy.

This whole pearl-clutching when Null implies that men aren't wholesome chunguses really reminds me of faux-edgy terminally online zoomer groups who will remind you how edgy they are because they say nigger and kike, but then absolutely lose it if you say tranny because trannies are sacred cows to these groups. They're fine when women, nignogs, troons get made fun of but when they are the butt of the joke suddenly it's too far. Give me a break.
 
Honestly what I'm gathering, is that men have severe self awareness issues. I'm a fucking loser myself but I am *aware* of it and I don't believe I'm owed jack shit. I can sympathize with some shit being said here which makes me feel better about myself I guess.
(I dunno, some shit in here kinda resonates because of some of the male company I keep)
That being said, Josh was pretty on the money.
There are *a lot* of men who can dish it out, but can't take it, and my personal biggest problem with Manosphere thought processes is the insane amount of double standards involved.

There are also a lot of moids who interpret accountability, or simply being told something they didn't want to hear, as an attack. I can't tell you how many times I've had moids tell me that they "can tell I hate men" because I politely disagreed with their rhetoric or told them I didn't want to have sex with them.
I think it's extremely telling that an absence of ass kissing and free pussy is considered hate, but here we are
 
When I first started freshly dating after my last relationship, I tried to be open to online dating advice - of which almost all of it is written by men either for men or to degrade a woman's self esteem so much that she will accept the first match she gets
A lot of it seems to boil down to "ask her about something she put on her profile and pretend to be interested." But actually a lot of them can't even seem to manage that because they're cripplingly dull.
 
It's not just that he screams fucking a latex glove between two couch cushions ick, it's that he's absolutely fucking deranged too. Here he is saying that people with kids should get votes based on their kids. That's right, he wants Americans without kids to have votes considered of lesser value, have less of a voice, because people without kids "aren't invested in the future", As if childfree people won't also possibly live to be 80 years old or even older. I hope Trump genuinely regrets ever choosing this absolute fucking retard.
Remember, JD Vance (and Blake Masters, and that faggot Peter Thiel, and countless other micro-dicked moids) actually believe that Sammie, Kim, Robyn, Amy Slaton, and fucking Jill Rodrigues deserve to have more rights than you, including voting and citizenship rights, simply because they have popped out children that are in the best of cases special needs and dependent on government benefits. Not to mention that, under this set of beliefs, every welfare queen of any color would also keep her voting rights, but a working woman would not unless she pushed out cannon fodder for the corporate state.
On average, all men from all walks of life between the ages of 20-50 will be unable to hold a conversation that does not focus on himself. About 10% will offer to pay for a date and that 10% basically needs to offer as incentive because they otherwise have no personality, are obsessed with Warhammer or videos games or cars, are overweight to the point suggesting a walk is too much activity for them, will immediately espouse some extra right wing take that clearly red flags their distaste for women, will tell you that basically they want a partner to take care of them in exchange for them "loving them". Very few of these men ever have anyone entertain a conversation with them so if you do they will immediately simp extra hard about how you're so smart and they rarely talk to someone so smart and self aware meanwhile I've had this conversation 75 times this month with the exact same version of a man in various forms.
I keep being urged by friends to reenter the dating scene and I loathe dating apps, so I friended some eligible male coworkers on social media to get some insight into their personalities and see if any of them could be dating material. What you have described here has been my experience every single time. I am not all that picky about looks, personally: all I am really looking for is a mature man with a good, decent-paying job (not because I am a gold-digger, but because I also have a good, decent-paying job), who is intelligent and capable of holding informed, interesting conversation about topics other than tabletop gaming and anime, who doesn’t hold moid-ish political opinions like the ones described above, and takes decent care of himself. And every time, I can never find it.

Women must hold high standards for men, as there is so much at stake for us; it is the job of MEN to meet those standards, not for us to lower them. This has been understood for thousands of years: even in societies were women have had the lowest of social statuses, it was general practice that if a man wanted to marry a woman, he was expected to have a steady job, to have the ability to purchase a marital home or offer stable housing, and, in general, be able to provide the means for a stable family life without the wife having to work outside of the home or family business. In many of these societies, women retained some control over their dowries as well, so that if the marriage failed, the wife was not left financially devastated with children to care for. But women’s rights have actually eroded so much that asking for these things seems like we are being unreasonable and overbearing in requiring our potential partners to demonstrate to us that they are mature adults, and even now, if our marriages end, we are more likely to end up destitute and with primary care of the children. We no longer have dowries and alimony is largely gone; all we can possibly get is child support, which men dodge anyway because there’s no actual repercussions if they don’t pay it.

Men should not be asking themselves why more women don’t marry; they should ask themselves why so many women still do.
 
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who is intelligent and capable of holding informed, interesting conversation about topics other than tabletop gaming and anime
Yeah but men will read this and be like "wow women are so unrealistic, do they expect us to stay up until 6 AM drinking coffee and talking about early German silent films?"

No just get a hobby that doesn't involve elves.
 
A lot of it seems to boil down to "ask her about something she put on her profile and pretend to be interested." But actually a lot of them can't even seem to manage that because they're cripplingly dull.

And since I followed the males dating advice, I filled out my bio with tons of my hobbies and interests. But glaringly the absolute most obvious trait is that I am a long time artist in creative fields. 9/10 men will ask what medium I work in and then tell me they can't draw. Very few will ask to see my work and those who do will give the most basic banal compliment before bringing up a topic about himself. If a guy does not ask to see my work after conversing on the topic of being an artist, I just unmatch.

For all the "LOL NULL IS A CHILD OF SINGLE HOUSEHOLD!!" comments moids like to make whether it's on Youtube or on this site, ironically enough most of them act the very same way they like to imagine children from terrible divorced/single-household act.

They are all children of single married parents as their mothers are forced to care for not only them but their grown ass father who influenced these milque toast takes. Oh no, Nulls mom didn't raise a full grown man along side her child. What a stupid whore to miss out on that opportunity so that her kid could come online and sexually harass women as a hobby.

Seems to me, maybe he had an interesting perspective because he actually loved his mother as an individual human being he would never want to see trapped in a marriage with Ethan Ralph. It is obvious the commenters actually hate their own mothers who let them suck her tits dry to live on this planet and take her rights away.


am not all that picky about looks, personally: all I am really looking for is a mature man with a good, decent-paying job (not because I am a gold-digger, but because I also have a good, decent-paying job), who is intelligent and capable of holding informed, interesting conversation about topics other than tabletop gaming and anime, who doesn’t hold moid-ish political opinions like the ones described above, and take decent care of themselves. And every time, I can never find it.

As an artist, I don't even have "good job" on the list as I am used to hanging out with musicians and painters and writers. I value a creative life pretty highly because that's just who I personally am and I want to continue to have that in my future. I am fully aware the creative types are more likely to be degenerates but I'm not throwing them out of the pool - I'm giving them the chance to create an impression. But regardless of job, they all act the same. I've spoken to lawyers, psychologists, men with PhDs, men who own large construction businesses - if all I wanted was a man with a good job, I wouldn't even need to change myself as a low earner as long as I'm willing to suck dick on the regular.

One thing that has changed for me as I've gotten older - (I'm almost mid 30s, how can I possibly still receive over 100 likes a day from all sorts of men from the ages of 20-50? Am I not used up? Am I not too old? No one is too old to take care of a man, there are senior citizen mothers doing it still) - is the men with children. I am and will remain biologically childfree due to my personal health. I am not opposed to foster care or adoption when I'm older as I think older parents (besides genetic issues) are much better than young ones. With that said, I am absolutely not taking care of someone's else's crotch spawn. If you fucked it up with your baby mama to the point she had to take the kids and leave, you should be removed from the dating pool. This is not the same for single mothers as they more often than not are the ones leaving. They are choosing salvation and peace and safety. The baby daddy chooses bitterness, animosity, and a new observer of how he will shit on his own kids every other weekend while much of his money will go to child support (rightfully so). On my profile I have as the very first word in capital letters CHILDFREE. Then I added (from yours too!!!) and yet every single day I get likes from single fathers who's profile will say his kids come first, he's not looking for a new mom etc etc and it's like buddy I am a good looking, still relatively young woman with no children. Why in the fuck would I ever consider your beat up ass in a lifted pick up truck, unkempt beard and board shorts? I can suck the dick of men with PhDs. Why would I fuck you? No money, no free time, brain dead from children's content and I get to schedule our dates around PTA meetings you inevitably will be late to anyways (the meeting and the date). I can literally get a two hour date at a nice restaurant with a lawyer if I just promised to suck his dick? At least I get SOMETHING and not forced into unpaid babysitter role #8 because you also brought 7 other women into their lives briefly too.

I brought up my landlord and her house husband before and whenever the kids are stuck at home, they inevitably come knock on my door asking to do an activity (usually art related) because the dad is wearing headphones taking two hours to wash the dishes from the morning. I do it because the benefit is my cheap rent remaining copacetic. If there is no benefit, why the fuck am I raising you and your kids you had with someone else?
 
I've said this before, but if my opinions of women were formed from my mother they would not be positive; the best thing I can say about her is that she always had a job and never brought men home. I was raised by a combination of my mother and my grandparents until I was a teenager. I feel I am most like my grandfather for that reason. I also had normal older male friends since about 18 which helped a lot when dealing with women, which I had an abysmal relationship with as a teenager and didn't fully get over until my early 20s.

My philosophy with women is entirely pragmatic. I despise incels because they never grow up. I completely understand that mentality they sit in where everything is someone else's fault and even if people reach out to try and help you, you will sabotage their best efforts to try and reaffirm your own mentality. This self-sabotage exists as a form of laziness: accepting anything as your own fault means you have to actually do something to fix it. If it's not your fault (women are evil) and/or cannot be fixed (you lack the immutable CHAD gene), you can keep playing video games.

MGTOW is half correct and half completely wrong. Men do need fraternity and men should focus on themselves first. You need fraternity to learn from older people and you need self-improvement to be worth anything (and attractive). Every single woman I've ever been with never came about from me looking for one. I always met women while working on myself or building something. The issue is their insistence that women are their enemy: that is called homosexuality, and there's quite a few homosexuals larping as real men in male spaces.

The animosity between men and women is societal scale sabotage. The worst form of hypocrite are the racists / white supremacists who then hate their own women. Either white men and women are superior or they aren't. If you think white men are superior and asian women are superior to white women then you're just a fetishist, like John Lennon.


The challenge I posited towards people is difficult to get people to participate in. In contemporaneous times, empathy has gotten a bad rap, in part because of people like iDubbbz inappropriately using it as an excuse to be weak and pathetic. Empathy is not sympathy and it's not weakness. If you want to be properly Machiavellian, you must be empathetic. If you want to be modern Sun Tzu, you must know the enemy and yourself. That's still empathy.


Maligning women in the way that we have done has never been witnessed in human history.

Hitler addresses the National Socialist Women’s League. He describes a world order where women and men are secure in their places, with men guiding a "larger world" that requires direct action and sacrifice, and women protecting a "smaller world" which makes the larger world possible.

Women were emancipated in Germany after World War 1. They voted for the NSDAP after the failures of the Weimar Republic. Hitler coveted their vote and spoke highly of them. As mentioned, the marriage purity laws in Germany which outlawed interracial marriage also secured divorce rights.

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Right: PEOPLE WITHOUT CHILDREN - PEOPLE WITHOUT FUTURE

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Ehrenkreuz der Deutschen Mutter - an award for women with 8 or more children.

The NSDAP never drafted women into the Wehrmacht even in the end years of the war.
Stalin's statement in regards to International Women's Day. He applauds women and extols their achievements.


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Order of Maternal Glory - 9 / 8 / 7 children respectively. I guess Stalin's thought was they'd want more than Hitler and if they gave out awards starting at 7 you'd be in the for 9.

The Soviet Union did have female aviators in World War 2. The most famous are the Night Witches. They were given cropdusters to bomb German positions with because they didn't want to give them real airplanes. So, they'd replace their parachutes with more bombs and turn off the engines on approach. All the Germans could hear is the flutter of canvas wings while they literally pulled bombs over the sides of the aircraft to drop them. That's how they got the name Night Witches.
I feel it's also kind of worth mentioning that the winners of the war did not actively promote motherhood. They were more directly concerned with getting women into the workforce. They also won. Make of that what you will.

Perhaps the pragmatic takeaway is that a strong economy beats out idealism on the battlegrounds and trying to deal with modern paradigms by simply trying to destroy them will not allow you to win against our global rivals even if we do manage to simply revert society to the 1930s.

It's also notable that female conscription is not a thing in any country I'm aware of. In the US, this is almost certainly unconstitutional given new perspectives on gender equality, but an inequality we tolerate mostly because everyone knows deep down inside how fucking stupid it would be to send the people who give birth to a trench. I do see men complain about how unfair this is, which is an IQ check.

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Anyways, my point is that no society turned against the people who give birth to future generations and survived. I'm of the perspective that a lot of the bitching and moaning about women is simply the people meant to die childless being eviscerated from the gene pool, which of course upsets those people when I say it and prompts them to go "what about you?!" (that question in particular being an IQ check for anyone trying it).
 
I've said this before, but if my opinions of women were formed from my mother they would not be positive; the best thing I can say about her is that she always had a job and never brought men home
Probably would've been a lot more pissed off if she was bringing an Ethan Ralph home, though, and/or married him.

But to be fair, I was also raised by a man who was the age of most grandparents and my father gave me the explicit advice that most men are awful until they are old. It takes approximately 45 years for a man to learn what women are trained for as children.

I don't want to suck old dick though so still might just stick out being single...
 
Last year I wrote about a femicide that created a scandal in my country. The reactions to it were very strong because of the violence and the ferocity the of the murder. The fucker will be trialed in September. In the meantime, the other day a tv program leaked the video of one of the meetings this piece of shit had with his parents in jail, and his father tells him a couple of interesting things:

"Eh, well, you did something, but you're not a mafia member, you're not going around killing people, you had a moment of weakness... that's it! You're not a terrorist, I mean... be strong. You're not the only one [killing a woman]... there were a lot of others... but you have to focus on your college degree. There had been like 200 femicides! You'll have permissions to go out, to work, you'll be out on parole. It wasn't you [who killed her], don't feel guilty, because you just couldn't control yourself."

These words caused a lot of outrage. Now the father is whining, telling that he said those things because he didn't want his son to kill himself. But several lawyers chimed in saying this could be beneficial for the fucker: his attorney could use this to show it wasn't entirely his fault, because he grew up in an environment that taught him to minimize violence on other people and to refuse to take responsibility for his actions. If they'll give him less that life, it will be a monstruous failure for our justice system.
 
I feel it's also kind of worth mentioning that the winners of the war did not actively promote motherhood. They were more directly concerned with getting women into the workforce. They also won. Make of that what you will.
The Soviet Union were part of the Allies, and also the part that contributed the most to the war effort, by a considerable margin. And women were emancipated and part of the workforce from the start.
It's also notable that female conscription is not a thing in any country I'm aware of. In the US, this is almost certainly unconstitutional given new perspectives on gender equality, but an inequality we tolerate mostly because everyone knows deep down inside how fucking stupid it would be to send the people who give birth to a trench. I do see men complain about how unfair this is, which is an IQ check.
Israel and the Scandinavian countries would be the most notable examples of female conscription. It does exist, in the Scandinavians because their constitutions mandate equality, and in Israel because they’re vastly outnumbered by hostile neighbours.
 
"Eh, well, you did something, but you're not a mafia member, you're not going around killing people, you had a moment of weakness... that's it! You're not a terrorist, I mean... be strong. You're not the only one [killing a woman]... there were a lot of others... but you have to focus on your college degree. There had been like 200 femicides! You'll have permissions to go out, to work, you'll be out on parole. It wasn't you [who killed her], don't feel guilty, because you just couldn't control yourself."
>You're not going around killing people
His hellspawn kidnapped his ex girlfriend, stabbed her over 20 times and then dumped her body in a ravine. That's what I call going around killing people, or does it not count as long as it's just an ex?

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But several lawyers chimed in saying this could be beneficial for the fucker: his attorney could use this to show it wasn't entirely his fault, because he grew up in an environment that taught him to minimize violence on other people and to refuse to take responsibility for his actions. If they'll give him less that life, it will be a monstruous failure for our justice system.
I've never understood how "Your honor, my client is a violent psychopath who is incapable of learning right from wrong" is an argument for less time instead of for a life sentence
I think Lennon is a good example as well in that his beliefs seemed to just be a massive fucking larp for whatever brought him the most pleasure. I've always thought the incessant "I'm thuch a radical revoluthionary, guithe" is very reminiscent of how these types always larp as communists or natsocs because they're so poorly versed in the actual ideology that they think it entails "I get to sit on my ass all day and be assigned a bangmaid"
 
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