Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

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Moids wanted a world where they controlled the resources because it is the only way they can SURVIVE. They need a system to hoard the resources because women are resource-dependent, being the mothers and connected to the earth. We need resources to feed the babies. So, they hoard the resources so we have no choice but to be under moid thumbs. It's entirely 100% males fault that the world consumes plastic shit. Just ask them. "We built all this", they'll say. So I'm not interested in considering what percentage of blame women need to absorb for participating in the system they created. Moids wanted control to be able to pass on their defective genes and didn't want to play the game as nature set it up. "Traditionalism" is matriarchy, period.
 
Ewwwww why did this remind me of that fat retard from that "confess to my secret crush" video of The Cut whose crush was his friend's ex (who didn't want anything to do with him) and whom he tried to seduce by talking about how much he LOVES eating pussy. (She was not impressed)

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Does this turn you on, ladies??

This was gloriously awkward.

Timestamps 3.00 and 4.30 to see Mohammed make a fool of himself.

Edited to add: the black couple in orange are adorable. This show is retarded, but they're cute.
 
The more attractive you are as a woman, the more likely you are to get the attention of a man.

I won't contest that this attention is not going to be truly helpful in the long run, but if you want to get hired somewhere, if you want to get treated well as a customer, if you want fucking anything as a woman, and a male is a gatekeeper to what you want, you already know the playing field is unfair and stacked against you.
Wearing makeup and investing time and money into clothes which accentuate your best features is simply a way of trying to level that playing field.

Looking 'hot' is so closely intertwined with culture and time that an individual might not even be aware of how much his preferences are shaped by the time he grew up in.
Don't believe me? Go check out men's fashions of the early 1800s, dress your favourite moid in that outfit, and tell me how he gets on.
You might also try going on a date in one of these snazzy threads:

Once upon a time, moids would've been thrilled with such a finely dressed lady to show off to his clan.
they still don't need tons of useless shein or whatever crap that will go out of fashion in a week, and sure meeting the fashion trends matters to some extent to how you are treated but no one cares if your dress is last season or whatever, unless they are extremely retarded, people are buying way more shit than they need now. My post was in response to the discussion on environmental destruction so criticizing over-consumption seems fair. You don't need 200 new shein pieces to get a job, you need a well made suit and those don't change that drastically, and the one you got 2 years ago is probably still fine. Not following trends that change every week now is not the same as telling women not to care about their looks or to dress in 1800s fashion. There is a middle line. Criticizng women's consumption of beauty products and clothes is always met with an overreaction. Women constantly complain about how much money they spend on their looks but if you suggest they don't follow these retarded rules it's somehow crazy. Women don't have to spend that much, they just choose to, like you say, to have an edge over the competition.

The more attractive you are as a woman, the more likely you are to get the attention of a man.
This whole thread is full of stories about them being retarded rape apes that fuck animals and innainate objects, don't know why attracting them would be a priority.
 
they still don't need tons of useless shein or whatever crap that will go out of fashion in a week,
if you suggest they don't follow these retarded rules it's somehow crazy
The issue is that what woman wear is a topic for public discussion.

Picking over the minutae of each individual woman's decisions isn't acknowledging the tremendous social pressure and cultural restrictions on women who don't adhere to beauty standards.

I'd love it if every woman refused to wear makeup (it's expensive, clogs your skin, and looks retarded anyway), and made all her clothing from scratch out of natural cotton and linen.
But another woman might not want what I want, and her circumstances might not allow her to make the choices I do. I'm loathe to agree with a decree on what women should do, and what they need, when the whole situation is so fucking unfair. Women already have 40,000 voices telling her how to be and how to look, I don't like to add to them.

The fundamental problem is that women aren't able to make completely free fashion choices, because her choices impact her opportunities, in a way it never will for males. Women "choose to spend that much" because for her, the cost has payoffs in other areas.

You don't have to agree with a women's choice, to understand her reasoning for it, surely.

There is a middle line
This is the political centrist's theme song, and centrists are retarded.

This whole thread is full of stories about them being retarded rape apes that fuck animals and innainate objects, don't know why attracting them would be a priority.
It's not attracting them in the sense of wanting a mate. It's getting a male to listen to you at all.
 
The issue is that what woman wear is a topic for public discussion.

Picking over the minutae of each individual woman's decisions isn't acknowledging the tremendous social pressure and cultural restrictions on women who don't adhere to beauty standards.

I'd love it if every woman refused to wear makeup (it's expensive, clogs your skin, and looks retarded anyway), and made all her clothing from scratch out of natural cotton and linen.
But another woman might not want what I want, and her circumstances might not allow her to make the choices I do. I'm loathe to agree with a decree on what women should do, and what they need, when the whole situation is so fucking unfair. Women already have 40,000 voices telling her how to be and how to look, I don't like to add to them.

The fundamental problem is that women aren't able to make completely free fashion choices, because her choices impact her opportunities, in a way it never will for males. Women "choose to spend that much" because for her, the cost has payoffs in other areas
You don't have to agree with a women's choice, to understand her reasoning for it, surely.
women aren't above criticism, I don't have to understand or support their choice to chase trends and buy lead enhanced clothing and add to the destruction of the environment. Not supporting fast fashion or overconsumption in general isn't "picking over the minutae of each individual woman's decisions". There is no good reason to support that, all the reasons I've seen are cope. I didn't say women have to stop wearing all make up, make their own clothes or wear 1800s clothes, those are your arguments, they just don't need a billion products, 20 different pallets, or to chase every trend, if you can't have an honest conversation without twisting my words then there's no point.
 
I'd love it if every woman refused to wear makeup
another woman might not want what I want
I didn't say women have to stop wearing all make up,
if you can't have an honest conversation without twisting my words then there's no point.
Not much more I can add to this.

This is the man-hate thread, fren, so there will be man-hating. The rest of KF is available for woman-hating.
 
This is the man-hate thread, fren, so there will be man-hating. The rest of KF is available for woman-hating.
I am not hating on women I am hating on over-consumption.

And don't pretend like you didn't twist my words when you interpret my criticism of fast fashion as meaning everyone has to make their own shit because a middle ground of just buying less trash is retarded to you.
 
It's been a decade since I read this
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Highly recommend. Local clothes are pretty hard to find but I wear the best t-shirts 50$ plus tax can buy. I got zippers replaced in boots and had some dresses taken in. And polyester is from the devil it makes you stinky
 
How many times have we heard that a rape assertion is unfair because 'its a he said she said thing' and 'you can't convict just on words'. We need evidence. Where's the proof? The accused deserve a fair trial. Put your proof in front of a judge, or shut the fuck up.
This judge is DISMISSING EVIDENCE and has literally turned the fundamentals of the case into a 'he said she said' charade.

The only reason we even know this is happening is because of Gisèle's insistence that journalists be allowed to attend and report on the court proceedings. Normally, this would be behind closed doors and we'd be none the wiser.
I don't think the language gap helps, but I'm furious this is not being covered more widely in English language media.

The suggestion that the videos are too undignified and sensational is incredible. What's next, blood spatter photos being kept secret from murder cases?

If the fucking proof is too much for the court, maybe the court needs a binky and a blanket while it cries over its hurt fee fees.

The legal system (anywhere) is not well equipped to deal with rape, especially the most common kind, which is by an acquaintance and committed in non-public places and often with very little incontrovertible physical evidence of rape, even when it happened, even when it happened violently. That's why it is so often left unreported. And the idiots who don't understand that testimony is evidence should sit down and stfu.

being the naturefag i am, i posited a question to my wife that i'd also like to hear this thread's responses to: as far as consumer level (i.e individual people doing it and not corporations) pollution, environmental destruction, and species extinction goes, how much of it is potentially because of males?

i'm asking because i thought about how men built up this insane notion of masculinity around destroying and killing for the fun of it, owning loud, expensive, gas-guzzling toys as a flex, refusing to show empathy for "lesser" living things outside of their immediate personal circle, being a lazy, neglectful slob, and chasing exotic aphrodisiacs to get their peepee hard. obviously i know that both genders contribute to the problem, i'm not going to pretend tiktok hasn't been rocket fuel for consoomers to cycle through fast fashion and makeup trends every five fucking minutes, but i feel like the combination of specific factors listed above created a perfect storm that'll only lose momentum when bored, insecure, greedy xy's stop pushing the idea that caring even a little bit about your actions will magically make all your testosterone evapourate.

as for the corporate level ghouls who are directly responsible for policies, laws, and lobbying groups enabling other ghouls to trash our planet and degrade our quality of life, i'd just be preaching to the choir at the expense of my blood pressure. they're among the most subhuman of moids to me. in a perfect world i'd get to watch a petroleum company's ceo be tied to a breaking wheel on daytime television.
I know you're wanting to talk about the consumers rather than the corporate drivers of consumerism, but to get a real answer you'd need to break down who's buying what in what proportions and come up with the relative destructive effects of those choices.

But I still think it's important to look to the companies - which are not mindless reactive forces, but in fact spend untold money creating and driving demand (see, e.g., Apple's planned obsolescence model). So even if it's old-hat, I'm going to point out the state of large-company leadership.

In 2023, women CEOs in the Fortune 500 passed 10% for the first time in history (58 as of 1/2023). For the S&P 500 in 2023, it was only 41. In retail, women lost CEO ground in 2023, a year of enormous CEO turnover, with only 10% of new CEOs being women:

Given that roughly half of the people employed in retail are women and they are well represented in retail C-suite and senior management positions, one would assume that retail would be an industry more open to picking women to fill the top job, but that is not the case.

Rather, women lost ground in 2023, according to a detailed analysis of CEO retail appointments conducted by Korn FerryKFY -1.1%. Of the 47 newly-appointed retail CEOs last year, only five were female and 12 outgoing women CEOs were replaced by men. Overall, some 90% of new retail CEOs were men, and only 10% were women.

“It surprised me because boards and investors are being extremely thoughtful about trying to match their CEOs with the mandate of the business and their customer base,” shared John Long Korn Ferry’s North America retail sector leader. “I would have thought we would have retained almost as many women coming in as departed.”

Why so few women CEOs? This paper concludes the major factor is a disproportionate number of men in the candidate pool - because of lack of identification, funneling, and promotion of women much earlier in career arcs.

There is also the glass cliff phenomenon:
A study published in the Journal of Management, “You’re Fired! Gender Disparities in CEO Dismissal,” from researchers at the University of Alabama’s Culver College of Business, confirms boards have less patience when it comes to women CEOs.

The study of 641 CEO dismissals found that women have a 45% greater likelihood of being fired than men, regardless of the firms’ overall performance.

The researchers attribute this to what is called the ‘glass cliff,’ where after a woman has broken through the ‘glass ceiling’ to reach CEO, she is held to a higher standard than men and faces more scrutiny and criticism than her male counterparts.

“Female CEOs are more likely to be dismissed than male CEOs, and higher levels of firm performance protect male but not female CEOs from dismissal. Such results provide strong evidence that gender plays a significant role in CEO dismissal,” the research concludes.

So to address your question, regardless of who supposedly drives retail spending, the captains of those ships are the ones making decisions about driving demand, as well as packaging, materials, sourcing, etc. And the vast majority of those people are men.

Eta - People talking about beauty products and who's driving it. Here's a list of the top 20 CEOs in the beauty world. You can do the math.

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Woman gets fillers and plastic surgery to look younger: "Eewww sooo fake! Why do women do this to themselves? Don't they know men love when women are natural!!"

Woman ages naturally without getting plastic surgery: "EEEWwwww what happened to her?! she hit the wall! 🤢🤢"

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. According to moids women should just commit suicide as soon as the first wrinkle appears on our foreheads I guess because it's just unacceptable for a woman to not be attractive to them. Meanwhile they praise Johnny Depp who looks like a literal corpse.

Kirsten Dunst is 42. I thought the wall was 35 30 25?

And her husband is Jesse Plemons, who, though much more attractive with the weight-loss than when younger, is hardly looking like he drank from the Fountain of Youth at 36:
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And don't pretend like you didn't twist my words when you interpret my criticism of fast fashion as meaning everyone has to make their own shit because a middle ground of just buying less trash is retarded to you.
No. I didn't.

My focus is to criticise men for their bullshit. Once moids stop their bullshit, I might consider critiquing women's choices. Maybe.

But probably not.
 
Women wear make up and all the rest of it because we live in a world that destroys our self esteem since we are babies, and then convinces us the way to get self esteem back is to be beautiful to men (=fuckable, as soon as we become teens). Of course this is a disastrous trade off, because deriving your self-worth from your looks is bound to make you very unhappy as those looks inevitably fade.

A woman with a strong sense of self esteem doesn't play that stupid make up game other than for the sake of blending into society. Women who go overboard with it are just extremely insecure (be it make up, ridiculous fashion or plastic surgery). The beauty industry just exacerbates those insecurities and women caught in that loop police eachother's looks and obsess over details. But the overarching structure of beauty consumption is in place to benefit men, and only men. While women waste time, money and energy obsessing over their nonexistent imperfections and developing mental illnesses around their looks, men still rule this planet (e.g. only 20% of land is owned by women around the world).

Gays also wear make up and inject ridiculous amounts of shit into their (increasingly deformed) faces for the same reason: deep insecurity and (false) belief that being desired by other men (the manly chads in the gay world) is in any way important, because men are for some reason considered more valuable.

Men, meanwhile, live in a parallel reality where they only need to do minimal effort regarding looks and hygiene in comparison, and they still think they are a gift from god. And many women believe that too, and act as an enhancing mirror to them (Virginia Woolf's metaphor, I think).

Anyway, yes, everyone over-consumes but women are especially targeted for their insecurities, while men are targeted for whatever autistic hobby they have, which isn't harmful to their self esteem. And of course the main issue with overconsumption is the actual industries, not individuals, as explained by @Friend of Dorothy Parker.
 
So to address your question, regardless of who supposedly drives retail spending, the captains of those ships are the ones making decisions about driving demand, as well as packaging, materials, sourcing, etc. And the vast majority of those people are men.
thank you for coming back with hard data, i seriously appreciate it because it's good to see some objective numbers supporting this.

And of course the main issue with overconsumption is the actual industries, not individuals
don't worry, i was above and beyond aware of that which was why i specified consumer level pollution, like the types who throw garbage onto the road or spend hours a week mowing their lawn. don't think it's possible to get an accurate answer for what i was looking for, but the information we do have is telling enough.
 
Moids are still coping over the fact they hate women. Why can't they own up to it? Is it because the reason (women don't give you sex) is so embarrassing? Because you know your hatred is completely unjustified? You're really not making yourselves look better with this "We don't really hate women, we just see them as objects to satisfy our sexual needs and as punching bags when we get angy" bs.

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You don't have to actively hate women and seethe about them to be a misogynist, which most men don't seem able to grasp.
 
The world will never stop judging women's looks harshly so the only solution is to bully moids ruthlessly for being ugly, much uglier than women. There is an actual movement of scrotes who are genuinely mindblown and suicidal upon discovering they are supposed to look attractive for women to be attracted to them. What made them believe women are not visual creatures and some nice girl will love them for their golden (sure) heart despite being busted, wrinkly and fat? It is completely reasonable to have standards about physical attributes but it only gets called shallow when women dare to do it, not when moids do it to an autistic extent.
 
The world will never stop judging women's looks harshly so the only solution is to bully moids ruthlessly for being ugly, much uglier than women. There is an actual movement of scrotes who are genuinely mindblown and suicidal upon discovering they are supposed to look attractive for women to be attracted to them. What made them believe women are not visual creatures and some nice girl will love them for their golden (sure) heart despite being busted, wrinkly and fat? It is completely reasonable to have standards about physical attributes but it only gets called shallow when women dare to do it, not when moids do it to an autistic extent.
Got me thinking about how troons get praise and worship for looking like trainwrecks.

If a woman dressed or looked like Dylan Mulvaney or other scrotes that pretend to be women, we would get so much shit and scorn.

Moids of all varieties should be held to the same standards women, espcially the ones that pretend to be women.
 
Suffragettes fucking died and bombed and terrorized society to be listened to, often facing widespread ridicule and derision.
There's a book called 'The Suffragette Bombers' by Simon Webb, who goes into detail about how certain suffragettes actually bombed and destroyed women-owned shops and whose general acts of terror got men to do the opposite: they postponed giving women the vote by about ten years. These women-only shops weren't rich women's shops: they were working class women, mostly clothing shops, and you can imagine it did not sit well with them.

Then you have the Christian Women's Unions and Suffragettes raising the age of consent in the US and trying to ban child prostitution. When unity works, it works. When it doesn't, you have the above.
You mention womens role in the destruction of the environment, but consider the fact that it is men who imposed the need for fashion and makeup towards women, and continue to promote and produce it.
It's funny because one of women's 'historic roles' and one that no man could deny them from doing was cloth weaving and fabrics. Women dominated that sphere to the point it was/is called 'women's work'. Making clothes from scratch is not easy, especially without machines. All those garments those boy-fucking Athenians were wearing were made by women. The carpets Arabs sold to merchants? Made by women. Yet they get no respect. Garment making became male dominated when the market became more mechanized and you had cheaper materials.
Once upon a time, moids would've been thrilled with such a finely dressed lady to show off to his clan.
Red lipstick was once seen as witchcraft. Funny how things change. Women used to make their own makeup and hair dye from local materials like eggs, flour and the coloured palettes was sourced from natural sources; the stuff about using radium and shit was, again, marketed by men. Bernadette Banner (despite being a New York Jewess trying to sound English) actually has some of these recipes.


I managed to find the pin I was talking about ITT.
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This irritated me. If you're a gay man, closeted or otherwise, it doesn't give you the right to break women's hearts all because you want to suck cock. This isn't a heart-to-heart conversation either, or something obviously done for protection issues (see Turing and his wife who knew full well he was gay (and a pederast)). This is a man entering relationships with women, making demands of them and treating them like shit all because he wants a dick in his ass. If you keep doing this to women, you aren't just gay. You're a sadist. And many times the man actually IS one because the woman is not a person to him, but a hole to be fucked. Yet another confirmation that men only ever seen themselves as true equals, and are eternal spiritual homosexuals.

(And it is funny, because in the context of the quote above, homosexuality is not shamed in Runeterra/Piltover so the guy using women just to 'find out' he really likes men is insidious'.)
 
I would like to indulge in a very niche, sort of moid hate in this moment that I don't think has been brought up in this thread before.

Male cult leaders -

Whether it be NXIVM, or Scientology, or the Branch Dividians it is a way too common story that you hear that the male leader had like a harem, or he was raping teenage girls and just sexually taking advantage of all the women who he had brainwashed/coerced into following him.

Some loser scrote convinces himself he's Jesus's brother or whatever, and that means he deserves to get his dick sucked extra, pathetic.

This isn't the thread for criticising females, so I'm not gonna be talking about female cult leaders like Teal Swan.
 
I can complain about trannies stinking up gay bars

I don't mean to necro this, but I'm so tired of gays pretending that the T didn't come from the gay rights movement. Who added the T to the alphabet soup? Straight white women? No, the gays wanted to keep the gravy train idpol grift going and added the 'homosexual transexual' as if they didn't get rights via being gay men or women.

They literally belong in your spaces.

The FIRST person who defended trannies to me was a gay woman, then second a younger woman. The first person to call me an islamophobe to my face was a gay (jewish kek) woman, then an older woman who was a teacher. Let's not pretend that gays didn't have a hand in presenting this idea to the rest of us. Even now on ovarit they suddenly pretend that it wasn't the HSTS that they brought into the gay rights fold, that it just appeared out of nowhere. They ran interference for degenerate gay men until mulvaney and his faggy ilk popped up. I watched this shift happen in real time.

I left twitter because JKR was parading her HSTS bestie 'Fiona Orlander' around as 'one of the good ones' because he was a gay man pretending to be a woman instead of just a straight crossdresser. The trannie menace happened because gays browbeat women out of their natural disgust into empathy (via an overload of media: tv, fashion, movies, etc), and the gays and trannies made good use of that empathetic state.

You cooked it, you served it, YOU eat it.
 
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