Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

[crazedaze]

Feminized society doesn't allow men to be men

A hallmark of narcissism is playing the victim. They know that "society" does nothing of the sort. Any woman who even says she worries about male violence is hit with the not all men. "Male violence" is deemed sexist. "Masculinity" is seen as leadership and strength and is worshipped while the "feminine" is still seen as being weak and dependent. They are just being delusional victim-playing narcissists when they say this shit.

 

[Galaxolotl]

It's because gay men are convincing straight men that women are the problem by posing as dating experts and gurus. I first noticed this when Naked Ape was still e-relevant and he very angrily started espousing alt-right trad wife talking points about "cock carousel" this and "roastie" that. Why does that gay faggot care if a demographic he has no interest in being involved with are being promiscuous? Because if he could make women look as awful and unappealing as possible, that frees up the men who pursue women for him. They really think that the only thing standing between them and a larger pool of men to fuck is women, and that any man would turn gay if it meant getting laid. So they go full misogynist and try to convince other men that women are all horrible, and part of how they do that is by giving the worst dating advice possible. This was something that was highlighted on MATI recently where a "Women taking Ls" X account was discovered to be ran by a gay man. It's only gaining ground because straight men are unaware that the source of these misogynist talking points is coming from gay men who want to buttfuck them.

So on the left you got the gross Pritzker tranny trooning out kids and autistic males and on the right you got the Peter Thiel types who want total prison gay planet. Both however want to commodify and atomize women.

 

[2mm and 99 others]

The other worst parts of tranny debacle (at least for me) is annoying manosphere/MRA/anti-woke types saying how the reason why young men troon out is because the current society is a feminized one that shames men, masculinity and loves reminding men of how bad they are because their male ancestors committed bad things, never mind the fact that most of MtF trannies will say the main reason they trooned out when it's not them experiencing trolls remorse for being an edgelord in 2016 or consuming porn, is because they felt intense anxiety being deemed as a "failed" man for being more effeminate/non-conforming and emotional/sensitive because they didn't feel exactly comfortable trying to be the stoic aggressively macho masculine man archetype that was imposed on them by previous generations of men.

I don't believe them that being faggy is so excruciatingly bad so they can't stay men anymore, and they can never convince me (Troons will never understand actual female problems, so why should I even try to understand theirs). Millions of actual fags did not have that problem.
It's just some shite they say for TV and newspaper, where they can't say they became coom-brained to the point that the only thing that makes them still feel coomy, is the image of them being fucked as a woman.

 

[Mandy Stroyer]

Any woman who even says she worries about male violence is hit with the not all men.

In the same vein are men who brag that "independent wamen did nothing" when they actually step in to ""protect"" women. Protect me from who? Paki men wouldn't be rioting over a rape cover-up if another paki man didn't rape her and another paki man didn't help cover it up. Not to mention they initially destroyed the women's campus and are stealing shit.

 

[Big Miss Steak]

I am sick of hearing that men transition (MtF) because they're closeted gays. Ignoring how most MtF identify as lesbians, how absolutely divorced from reality do you have to be to think that it's easier or more acceptable to come out as trans than as gay?

 

[Yeeted Teet]

I know we already know it, but dear god so many A&N posters are just spiteful retards who want to hate women no matter what. Look at the thread on the Welsh woman who won an unfair dismissal case because she was fired for being pregnant. Every other post is-

Single mothers are scum and always presumed to be racemixers (she was never specified to be a single mother, and the photo they found shows her with a (white) man who appears to be her partner)

She’s taking advantage of the poor corporation, they were right to save money by firing her (statutory maternity pay is fully refunded by the government to smaller companies in the UK)

She’s lazy and got pregnant to avoid having to work (she got two more jobs after being fired and was cleaning caravans at 39 weeks)

Twitchen is a very traditional British name (it actually is)

As time goes on I become more and more convinced that the whole manosphere movement is a psyop.

 

[Kiwisee]

I know we already know it, but dear god so many A&N posters are just spiteful retards who want to hate women no matter what. Look at the thread on the Welsh woman who won an unfair dismissal case because she was fired for being pregnant. Every other post is-

Single mothers are scum and always presumed to be racemixers (she was never specified to be a single mother, and the photo they found shows her with a (white) man who appears to be her partner)

She’s taking advantage of the poor corporation, they were right to save money by firing her (statutory maternity pay is fully refunded by the government to smaller companies in the UK)

She’s lazy and got pregnant to avoid having to work (she got two more jobs after being fired and was cleaning caravans at 39 weeks)

Twitchen is a very traditional British name (it actually is)

As time goes on I become more and more convinced that the whole manosphere movement is a psyop.

They’re all balding millennial men who are upset that no fresh out of college white woman wants them.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

I'm 49. We do use the same bank. We discuss finances with regard to saving for a new car, insurance cost (we are married so we don't have separate insurance) and 50/50 on bills. He is somewhat contrite at the moment but I know it will blow up again whenever he moidrages out.

There are a lot of factors here. Moids are always replaceable. I feel like I'm the life support system for vampires. The life of a lonely cat lady would be a dream.

I'm sorry. And I hope it was a legit mistake by him. But putting aside all the million things I don't know about that might literally somehow make it different, you don't have to be with someone you don't want to be with.

 

[armfleshween]

I am sick of hearing that men transition (MtF) because they're closeted gays. Ignoring how most MtF identify as lesbians, how absolutely divorced from reality do you have to be to think that it's easier or more acceptable to come out as trans than as gay?

You're mixing up the two types of transgender MtFs.

Here's a copy and paste from my document that I'm gonna use to Peak a bunch of people:

Spoiler: Sperging

Two Type Taxonomy​

• Transvestites/Autogynophiles
  • “Transvestites are not effeminate in childhood, and transvestite boys are rarely considered sissies”
  • “Transvestiles are also unremarkably masculine in their adult hobbies and in their career choices.”
  • “Articles of clothing-often, but not always, underwear-are usually
  • borrowed without permission from a mother, sister, or other female in the household.”
  • “The same thought or image is likely to arise at moments of sexual excitement even when the transvestlte is not cross-dressed.”
  • “In adulthood and middle age, the relationship between the simple act of cross-dressing and sexual arousal becomes more complicated. In many cases, cross-dressing elicits less and less sexual excitement as the transvestite grows older; eventually it may produce no discernible penile response at all.”
  • “As previously mentioned, older transvestites frequently describe the subjective experience of cross-dressing as one of comfort, relaxation, or well-being.”
  • “... a majority of transvestites marry and father children.”
• Asexual and Analloerotic Gender Dysphoria
  • “For many, probably the majority, it appears true that ‘They feel attracted not by the women outside them, but by the woman inside them’”
  • “Blanchard (l985b) found that similar majorities of analloerotic, bisexual, and heterosexual transsexuals acknowledged some history of erotic arousal in association with cross-dressing, whereas only a small minority of homosexual subjects did so.”
  • “Blanchard (198 also found no differences in the average degree of childhood femininity reported by analloerotic, bisexual, and heterosexual transsexuals. All three groups reported significantly less feminine identification than did the homosexual group.”
• Bisexual Gender Dysphoria
  • “In their fantasies of sexual interaction with men, bisexual gender dysphorics are primarily aroused by what is, for them, the symbolic meaning of such acts, namely, the thought they themselves are women. This type of “bisexual” orientation need not reflect an equal erotic attraction to the male and female physiques and would perhaps be better characterized as pseudobisexuality.”
  • “Some bisexual gender dysphorics are well aware of the difference between their interest in men and true homosexual attraction.”
  • “The effective erotic stimulus, however, is not the male physique per se, as it is in true homosexual attraction, but rather the thought of being a female, which is symbolized in the fantasy of being penetrated by a male. For these persons, the imagined—occasionally real—male sexual partner serves the same function as women’s apparel or makeup, namely, to aid and intensify the fantasy of being a woman.”
    • Blanchard, 1985b, 249-250, accessed in Men Trapped in Men’s Bodies pg.11
• Homosexual Transsexuals
  • “The childhood behavior of homosexual gender dysphorics…closely resembles the DSM-III-R diagnosis of gender identity disorder of childhood, described in Chapter 1.”
  • “They avoid rough-and-tumble play, are frightened of fistfights, and strongly dislike team sports. They prefer to play with girls, to play girls' games, and to play with girls' toys, in particular, Barbie-type dolls.”
  • “Some of these boys also dress themselves up as women, although this might not occur as regularly in the childhood of homosexual gender dysphoria as in that of transvestites. Cross-dressing, when it does occur, is often accompanied by playacting various romantic roles such as princess or ballerina. Cross-dressing in homosexual gender dysphorics is not sexually arousing, either in childhood or later.”
  • “Some homosexual transsexuals simply prefer to avoid the emotional conflict and practical difficulties involved in sexual intercourse altogether.”
  • “It is possible to misdiagnose certain (preoperative) homosexual transsexuals as analloerotic or even asexual. These are individuals who have never had sex with a woman, for the simple reason that they are not attracted to them, and have also never had sex with a man, for a variety of quite different reasons: Some are embarrassed by their male genitals or their lack of breasts, often insist on a heterosexual male partner but are fearful of attempting a sexual encounter while masquerading as women…”
  • Anne Lawerence’s Testimony from Men Trapped in Men’s Bodies:
    • “I am firmly convinced that the overwhelming majority—probably 98% or more—of cases of severe gender dysphoria in men arise in connection with either effeminate homosexuality or autogynephilia; most of the rare exceptions probably arise in connection with conditions such as schizophrenia and certain personality disorders. The idea that substantial numbers of MtF transsexuals belong to a putative “third type” that is neither homosexual nor autogynephilic is inconsistent with my clinical experience and is, in my opinion, inconsistent with the best available empirical evidence.”
      • Pg.16
  • “In this sense, transsexualism offers certain individuals a supposed futuristic vision of what they can become. However, in reality, instead of giving transsexuals an open and truly visionary future, it restricts them unalterably to the present and visionless context of cultural roles and stereotypes under the guise of being ideologically visionary.”
    • Pg.5, The Transsexual Empire, https://transreads.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2019-03-20_5c91a4ba712fd_document26.pdf
• http://individual.utoronto.ca/ray_blanchard/GID_Men.pdf
• “This finding supports the hypothesis that autogynephilia is a misdirected type of heterosexual impulse.”
  • https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037/0021-843X.101.2.271
• Transvestic Disorder v. Gender Dysphoria
  • Gender Dysphoria: DSM-5, page 512
  • Transvestic Disorder: DSM-5, page 798 (MODERN SCIENCE STILL BELIEVES THIS EXISTS)
  • https://www.mredscircleoftrust.com/storage/app/media/DSM 5 TR.pdf
  • “According to the DSM-4, this fetishism was limited to heterosexual men; however, DSM-5 does not have this restriction, and opens it to women and men, regardless of their sexual orientation.”
    • https://courses.lumenlearning.com/wm-abnormalpsych/chapter/paraphilic-disorders/
• Autogynephilia and the Typology of Male-to-Female Transsexualism, Concepts and Controversies, Anne A. Lawrence (2017)
  • “Transvestism sometimes evolved into MtF transsexualism (Lukianowicz, 1959);
  • The boundary separating transvestism and MtF transsexualism was not distinct (Benjamin, 1966);
  • Both transvestites and MtF transsexuals experienced types of cross-gender identities (Stoller, 196;
  • Some MtF transsexuals were effeminate and androphilic, whereas others were primarily sexually attracted to women (gynephilic) and had a history of transvestic fetishism (Money & Gaskin, 1970–1971);
  • The essential fantasy for transvestites, as well as for MtF transsexuals, was becoming a woman, not just dressing as one (Ovesey & Person, 1976);
  • MtF transsexualism was nearly always associated with either (a) androphilia and childhood femininity or (b) gynephilia and erotic arousal in association with cross-dressing or cross-gender fantasy (Freund, Steiner, & Chan, 1982).”
  • “More evidence of the strong relationship between autogynephilia and sexual orientation emerged in research by Blanchard, Clemmensen, and Steiner (1987). They studied 125 gender dysphoric males and found that 82% of nonandrophilic participants gave a history of sexual arousal with cross-dressing, compared with only 10% of androphilic participants, yielding an effect size of .72.”
  • “Autogynephilic transsexuals tend to underreport autogynephilic arousal and overreport androphilic attraction, and these tendencies provide the most straightforward explanation of deviations from the predicted relationship between autogynephilia and sexual orientation. MtF transsexuals and transgender persons routinely minimize or deny autogynephilic arousal in association with cross-dressing or cross-gender fantasy for reasons that probably are often unintentional but sometimes are clearly deliberate.”
    • Are afraid of shame? To say it was not deliberate or they were entirely honest is something that depends on faith. Should we have faith in the male sex when they commit ~99% of sex crimes?
      • https://www.humboldt.edu/supporting-survivors/educational-resources/statistics
      • 93% - https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/...ublications/quick-facts/Sexual_Abuse_FY21.pdf
      • 73.8% - https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....coverviewpdf/table_42_arrests_by_sex_2012.xls
  • “ In some cases, autogynephilic MtF transsexuals who claim to be attracted to men may simply be experiencing attraction to the idea of having their femininity validated by men, a different phenomenon.”
    • To believe in science, you have to believe in this being a possibility. It has been recognized over and over.

TLDR: The two types are the kind that gets aroused when cross-dressing and being seen as a woman (majority are heterosexual/bisexual/asexual) and the type that doesn't (majority are homosexual, very insecure men)

 

[celona]

This is exactly why I refer to incels and misogynists as “spiritual homosexuals”. They’re oblivious to the fact that they’re espousing the exact same talking points as gay men.

I know I’ve posted this before it’s always fucking relevant because men literally ARE spiritual homosexuals all the time.

To say that straight men are heterosexual is only to say that they engage in sex (fucking exclusively with the other sex, i.e., women). All or almost all of that which pertains to love, most straight men reserve exclusively for other men. The people whom they admire, respect, adore, revere, honor, whom they imitate, idolize, and form profound attachments to, whom they are willing to teach and from whom they are willing to learn, and whose respect, admiration, recognition, honor, reverence and love they desire… those are, overwhelmingly, other men. In their relations with women, what passes for respect is kindness, generosity or paternalism; what passes for honor is removal to the pedestal. From women they want devotion, service and sex.

Heterosexual male culture is homoerotic; it is man-loving.

Marilyn Frye, The Politics of Reality: Essays in Feminist Theory

 

[Grimoire Canthari]

>be me
>old college acquaintance messages me out of the blue on discord, wanting to catch up
>yeah sure ol buddy, what's up
>we talk about what we've been doing since graduation
>nerd out about GWAR together
>get an infodump about how he still hasn't gotten over his ex and how he's grown out of his simp phase
>every conversational line is then led to what kind of girls he hates or likes no matter how contrived it is
>niggerwhat.mp4
>canwegobacktogwar.pls
>asks me if I'm single at the end of the convo

It should be illegal to be a spiritual limp wrist and be a GWAR fan

 

[Inside your walls]

It's because gay men are convincing straight men that women are the problem by posing as dating experts and gurus. I first noticed this when Naked Ape was still e-relevant and he very angrily started espousing alt-right trad wife talking points about "cock carousel" this and "roastie" that. Why does that gay faggot care if a demographic he has no interest in being involved with are being promiscuous? Because if he could make women look as awful and unappealing as possible, that frees up the men who pursue women for him. They really think that the only thing standing between them and a larger pool of men to fuck is women, and that any man would turn gay if it meant getting laid. So they go full misogynist and try to convince other men that women are all horrible, and part of how they do that is by giving the worst dating advice possible. This was something that was highlighted on MATI recently where a "Women taking Ls" X account was discovered to be ran by a gay man. It's only gaining ground because straight men are unaware that the source of these misogynist talking points is coming from gay men who want to buttfuck them.

The worst part of it? Straight men don't really give a shit about it and will unironically support it as long as it benefits them in some sort of way. Case in point, your average man that says they "don't approve" of Andrew Tate, MRA/redpill podcasts and incel forums/websites but also say "Well at least they talk about issues that men face when nobody else does!1"

These are the same men that freak out when women that aren't even aligned or into the whole radfem sphere will say "Andrea Dworkin had some good points" btw.

She’s taking advantage of the poor corporation, they were right to save money by firing her (statutory maternity pay is fully refunded by the government to smaller companies in the UK)

Leave it to the "I hecking reddit bacon trans heart Uncle Ted and I hate the government and corporations" typical A&N poster to become the biggest corpo and government bootlicker just because to "trigger da libz own da libz" and think that having an opposing opinion on something is peak intelligence.

But what intelligence do you expect from a group of posters who were unironically justifying how non-white children getting raped is fine because "at least it wasn't a white child" and "It's should be none of our business what these savages do to each other" just few days ago?

 

[Aliénor]

In brief, men are trash. Everywhere.

 

[Kiwisee]

But what intelligence do you expect from a group of posters who were unironically justifying how non-white children getting raped is fine because "at least it wasn't a white child" and "It's should be none of our business what these savages do to each other" just few days ago?

This is why I don’t trust their hatred of pedophiles to ever be consistent. If their first response isn’t “kill the pedophile”, then they don’t interrogate their own talking points nearly as much as they should.

I’ve also seen them make up excuses on behalf of the pedophiles involved in the Rotherham Grooming Gang. I wouldn’t be surprised if it turned out that at least 4/5ths of all A&N posters are pedophilic shitskins. At least then their vapid hatred of white women suddenly makes more sense.

I’ve also noticed that they quickly drop any notion of being pro-gun as soon as the argument that women should be allowed to shoot rapists to death comes up. Interesting, it’s almost like they want guns only for themselves so that they could get away with abusing women.


Thats the amount of energy they give off. They should be renamed to Bald & Small

 

[Chandelier]

View attachment 6541637On the topic of troons can I just say I hate Chappell Roan

I've seen her pop up in fandom circles and they love her for her statements on troons. I've never heard of her or her music before then.

Since she's not saying men...would she fuck a transwoman? After all, girl dick ain't dick I've heard.

Girl!! Your and other women's healthcare rights and autonomy are being fucked with by men in positions of power in USA and your biggest concern right now is not that but
whether or not autogynephilic men in dresses that you call "your sisters" are allowed in women's spaces to be sex pests? Get real, holy shit

They don't care. Ever since libshit feminists separated our biology from our bodies - they say centering our bodies is reducing us to them, one of the most annoying statements I've ever heard - it opened the door for it to be based on nothing more than feeling. If our bodies aren't centered in feminism, we cannot talk about our oppression. Simple as. Shitlibs simply think this is reductionist because "a woman is more than that." When you ask them to elaborate, they go into philosophical notions of "whoever feels like one" and "whatever she decides to be" or "not for you to define." At this point it's easier to call them retarded to their faces and ask them if they know what sex is in their Yorkshire terriers.

Example:

Reblogs were later turned off for this post. It was the one that said the uterus was analogous to the prostate. Fucking retards.

Btw, Roan should be informed that the people killing transwomen are other men:

Whoopsie.

It's because gay men are convincing straight men that women are the problem by posing as dating experts and gurus. I first noticed this when Naked Ape was still e-relevant and he very angrily started espousing alt-right trad wife talking points about "cock carousel" this and "roastie" that. Why does that gay faggot care if a demographic he has no interest in being involved with are being promiscuous? Because if he could make women look as awful and unappealing as possible, that frees up the men who pursue women for him. They really think that the only thing standing between them and a larger pool of men to fuck is women, and that any man would turn gay if it meant getting laid. So they go full misogynist and try to convince other men that women are all horrible, and part of how they do that is by giving the worst dating advice possible. This was something that was highlighted on MATI recently where a "Women taking Ls" X account was discovered to be ran by a gay man. It's only gaining ground because straight men are unaware that the source of these misogynist talking points is coming from gay men who want to buttfuck them.

There was another user named Turd Flinging Monkey who made the same videos. He bought a sex doll he wanted to sell used cum water with - that is, old semen he washed from its silicone vagina - and people legit bought it. Eventually he fell into obscurity along with the rest. Sandman, Better Bachelor, and Legion of Men are all grifters trying to sell their shitty courses. If they aren't race mixers, they're spiritual homosexuals.

But what intelligence do you expect from a group of posters who were unironically justifying how non-white children getting raped is fine because "at least it wasn't a white child" and "It's should be none of our business what these savages do to each other" just few days ago?

Those same posters saying that dark races shouldn't breed get mad at female posters for saying the same thing. I cannot tell you how many times I've been told "oh, so you just want to kill black people" or something to that effect, when they say THE EXACT SAME THING and they don't get a lick of pushback. Those same posters were in the thread about the black woman in Georgia dying from a missed abortion calling her a murderer. Then there they were saying it was no big deal if it happened to non white fetuses make up your fucking minds!

 

[Mandy Stroyer]

Natal women complains about the symptoms of a female specific disorder-

Man decides it's about him.

Spoiler: No, it really is about him!

Spoiler: You ladies just don't know what a man is

Spoiler: Obligatory fetishism

 

[soft breathing]

Natal women complains about the symptoms of a female specific disorder-

This deserves a repost to Tranny sideshows on social media tbh.

This dude is a peak pile of garbage.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

I know we already know it, but dear god so many A&N posters are just spiteful retards who want to hate women no matter what. Look at the thread on the Welsh woman who won an unfair dismissal case because she was fired for being pregnant. Every other post is-

Single mothers are scum and always presumed to be racemixers (she was never specified to be a single mother, and the photo they found shows her with a (white) man who appears to be her partner)

She’s taking advantage of the poor corporation, they were right to save money by firing her (statutory maternity pay is fully refunded by the government to smaller companies in the UK)

She’s lazy and got pregnant to avoid having to work (she got two more jobs after being fired and was cleaning caravans at 39 weeks)

Twitchen is a very traditional British name (it actually is)

As time goes on I become more and more convinced that the whole manosphere movement is a psyop.

Its not a psyop. There is too much rage and shitposts to be a psyop. This is chicken coming to roost for millennials men. You rarely see this Level of bitterness from genx even those who are complete shistains and incels. Millennials have been told women are desperate to get married and have kids ergo you have to dangle it over womans heads to make them put up with their degeneracy, not pulling their weight and general entitlement.

Well it didn't work out did it? There are no desperate millennial women begging men to marry them and to have kids with once they hit 30. Instead women looked at each other and formed their own sewing circles and life moved on for them . Millennials have shot themselves in the foot with forgetting women desperate to get married did more out of social pressure and the need to fit in, than anything else. Once the concentration of unmarried women reaches 20-30% shaming and blaming doesn't work and women don't feel that pressure anymore. Its completely different when you are the only unmarried childless woman in your friends circle compared to half of your friends and family circle is unmarried and childless.

Here are some answers from perpetually single women, all of them are basically better lonely than with shitty man .

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomenOver30/comments/18sjfpb/women_35_who_have_been_single_for_a_few_years_now/

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomenOver30/comments/14v5oy3/why_are_more_women_single_today_than_ever_before/

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/18dq8nk/why_do_single_women_seem_so_happy_compared_to/

Kek in a nutshell

 

[Hubelublub]

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Natal women complains about the symptoms of a female specific disorder-
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Man decides it's about him.
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Spoiler: No, it really is about him!

View attachment 6545837

Spoiler: You ladies just don't know what a man is

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Spoiler: Obligatory fetishism

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I mean no disrespect or offence or anything

This man is being completely offensive and disrespectful. She's being completely inoffensive and respectful.

Yet somehow, she's the one who is qualifying her words.

I get it. Women get called out for not being accommodating and endlessly kind, while men say absolutely horrendous things and no one says a word. It's hard to be denigrated just for having an opinion.

But we have to stop doing this. It only makes it harder for the next women to be plain spoken.

 

[crazedaze]

Women get called out for not being accommodating and endlessly kind, while men say absolutely horrendous things and no one says a word. It's hard to be denigrated just for having an opinion.

I am so fucking sick of this shit dude