DMZ ♀ Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

This thread is a DMZ (De-Moidified Zone) and is strictly for women. Men and trannies (men) shitting up the thread will be removed from the entire Lolcow Salon for a month.
“Excuse me, I cannot enjoy a video game unless I can commit rape in it.”
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Imagine being so brain rotted by culture wars that you can't separate violent porn consumption from gaming.
The only way to stop content like this from being made is stopping it from the source. Porn. You'd need to re-introduce something like the Hays code again to curb this kinda shit.
These are the same retards who think loli isn't pedobait. Oh, but as soon as there's a same sex couple in a TV show these people are screaming pedophile and rapist from the roof tops.
 
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“Excuse me, I cannot enjoy a video game unless I can commit rape in it.”
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Imagine being so brain rotted by culture wars that you can't separate violent porn consumption from gaming.
What's even the point of a rape simulator anyway? Japan once did it with RapePlay years ago and it was rightfully banned world wide. Btw retarded defenders of the game used the argument "But murder is worse than rape! And murder is also shown in video games". Those moids can't grasp their heads around that there a certain cases where murder can be justified ) while there is no scenario in this world where you can justify rape without sounding like an insane person.
 
I'm sorry for posting in this thread. I read it occasionally because I find the things you guys post that men do to be absolutely horrifying and I've met enough men like that over my life to know that none of it is exaggerated in the slightest but this conversation about men not being able to show feelings is pissing me off enough to post something here.

First of all, any guy saying that any time in at least the last 40 years at least is absolutely full of fucking shit. I can say without even the slightest hesitation that I have never once in my entire life ever been shamed for expressing emotion. That's just so fucking retarded I can't even begin to understand how a dude can claim that shit with a straight face. I have been lightly mocked for showing physical pain, but this is not the same at all.

It is 100% always an excuse to justify being a massive piece of shit when some guy says he's not allowed to show emotions. I have worked most of my adult life in jobs considered 'manly' with 'tough manly men' type guys who are supposed be hardened emotionless shells, it is absolute bullshit. Those guys have no problem expressing emotions beyond anger and that's because they're usually not insecure little boys who blame others for their failings and inadequacies.

Whenever you hear 'i'm not allowed to express emotions' come out of a guy's mouth what he's saying is 'I'm a big fucking baby who can't even take responsibility for my own feelings and I will use you as an emotional crutch and punching bag.'
 
Three sets of clothes?
Men are straight up retarded.
My nephew once went through three sets of clothes in less than 6 hours.
I think aside from being ignorant of what kids need because they aren't involved in childcare this is also about making women suffer by taking away modern conveniences. In the last 100 years so many things have been invented to make taking care of babies easier, mostly to compensate for lack of family and community helping you out. Things like electric swings and rockers that soothe baby, teethers you can put in the fridge, plates that suction cup to the table, shushers, white noise, breast pumps, etc etc. You CAN raise a baby without all these things but it will be a lot harder on both mom and baby. You can make do with few clothes and few bottles/dishes/bibs but then you are doing extra work doing laundry and dishes. This is what these men want. They want motherhood to be an even harder chore than it already is. And many women advocate for this shit too because they somehow think suffering without modern conveniences is really noble. Just smh.
 
I think aside from being ignorant of what kids need because they aren't involved in childcare this is also about making women suffer by taking away modern conveniences. In the last 100 years so many things have been invented to make taking care of babies easier, mostly to compensate for lack of family and community helping you out. Things like electric swings and rockers that soothe baby, teethers you can put in the fridge, plates that suction cup to the table, shushers, white noise, breast pumps, etc etc. You CAN raise a baby without all these things but it will be a lot harder on both mom and baby. You can make do with few clothes and few bottles/dishes/bibs but then you are doing extra work doing laundry and dishes. This is what these men want. They want motherhood to be an even harder chore than it already is. And many women advocate for this shit too because they somehow think suffering without modern conveniences is really noble. Just smh.
I have no idea why "trad" men have so much contempt for mothers when that's the only role they approve of a woman having. Are they just confident they'll be able to force women (in the countries where women actually get a choice) to be mothers in the future, so there's no point trying to make it more appealing than independence? When I was young and retarded, they, at least, pretended they respected mothers and promised that your life would be better and happier. They don't even give a shit anymore about putting up a facade, they proudly hate all women including those women who advocate for tradmens' interests, they acknowledge you will be stressed and suffer and that they don't care and won't help you, they will critique all your choices on how you raise the kids (like this case where buying your kid toys instead of giving him some sticks to play with is now female stupidity), they insult the bodies of mothers after they've had babies and openly use it to justify cheating, and they think SAHMs are freeloading gold-diggers who do nothing important all day and waste their husband's hard-earned money on useless junk like parasites. They do a horrible job of selling being a mother, on top of bitching about how they want to kill their wives and how marriage is a miserable, oppressive ball and chain stopping them from sleeping with the younger, hot, tight women they really want, and then men blame low marriage and birth rates on women being liberal whores or something.

I also find it really weird how the FREEDOM 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅 guys will unironically argue in favour of subjugation. It's literally 1984 if they get banned from twitter, but taking away a woman's rights so she can't do or say what she wants is based. I don't know why men struggle with empathy when all they do is complain about how bad they have it and how much they suffer. If they know how much it sucks, why do they want to hurt other people?
 
I don't know why men struggle with empathy when all they do is complain about how bad they have it and how much they suffer. If they know how much it sucks, why do they want to hurt other people?
They don't see us as people, we are just fleshy punching bags to get out their frustrations and eternal scapegoats for everything that's bad in the world. Reminder that men literally used to burn women at the stake for the crime of living alone without a man and justified it by saying we are "witches". No matter how low a man ranks in society (homeless, poor, drug addicts) he can always punch down on a woman and rule over her to make himself feel powerful. Even sad NEET incels who claim they are "the lowest people in society" can always be cruel to their mom who keeps him clothed and fed.
 
This made me think that women are often discouraged from talking about pain or aren't even believed we're in pain. And it's like, a major medical problem, not just some anecdotal occurrence.
In my experience and observations, what I've noticed is that for minor injuries men will tell other men to just suck it up or call them a wimp or something but when it comes to serious injuries they'll take it seriously. With women, men will act the opposite. If a guy sees a woman get a minor injury, they will tend to impose their help and white knight, not usually out of a sense of genuine concern, but because of more simp like, 'nice guy' reasons whereas with an actual serious injury they will downplay it and dismiss it or even act callously and coldly about it. I might be wrong, but this is sort of what I've noticed.
 
No matter how low a man ranks in society (homeless, poor, drug addicts) he can always punch down on a woman and rule over her to make himself feel powerful. Even sad NEET incels who claim they are "the lowest people in society" can always be cruel to their mom who keeps him clothed and fed.
Too many of these powerless, non-achieving types are so butthurt by their own inability/ failure to thrive that they can only cope with their own shortcomings by morphing their frustration and ineptitude into a whole personality of wishful thinking about not being bottom-barrel by any means necessary (so long as it doesn't require getting off their asses and facing real life and real scrutiny). So they support are enthralled by are manipulated by grifty sellers (whether for actual money or not) of "male supremacy," and imagine they've done something by having done nothing but insult women on the internet. Joke's on them - all they've done is poison their minds and made themselves utterly and completely unable to function and with no shot at any normal interaction, romantic or otherwise, forever.

In my experience and observations, what I've noticed is that for minor injuries men will tell other men to just suck it up or call them a wimp or something but when it comes to serious injuries they'll take it seriously. With women, men will act the opposite. If a guy sees a woman get a minor injury, they will tend to impose their help and white knight, not usually out of a sense of genuine concern, but because of more simp like, 'nice guy' reasons whereas with an actual serious injury they will downplay it and dismiss it or even act callously and coldly about it. I might be wrong, but this is sort of what I've noticed.
That's because for minor injuries a woman making a complaint can be dismissed as "obviously the weaker sex," (or, Alternatively, is an easy performative way to get good-guy points), whereas something serious might actually require dealing with something hard.
 
The game developer of "No mercy" published a statement in response to his rape porn game being targeted for removal (A&N link). It's exactly what you would expect from the coom brained scrote game developer of an incest rape simulator. Behold, male bullshit:
In general, all those who played it are mentally ill and hate their mothers and women in general. That's how it's generally presented, and we completely disagree with this.
Do his mom and other female relatives agree?
During development, we conducted hundreds, if not thousands, of conversations with people who tested the game, and everyone perfectly understood what the game was about and that it was a game. They were normal people.
I trust a perverted moid and his reassurance that everybody who bought his incest rape simulator is "normal" (according to his coomer male standards) as much as I trust a politician making promises during an election campaign.
The same applies to the partners of all those who participated in the project.
How convenient that every single game tester (probably male) they dealt with not only had a partner (probably female), but that every single one of them knew about it, and what's more, was okay with it! What are the odds?
Real incest is something disgusting, and we fully agree with that. However, incest is also one of the most popular kinks worldwide when it comes to pornography, mainly because it typically portrays third parties, strangers, in no way related to the person watching it. Stepmom, stepson, stepdaughter are among the most frequently searched terms in pornography, which, for emotionally stable people, is just roleplay.
Incest pornography is popular, therefore, it doesn't say anything about men that pornographers have successfully popularized the idea of sexually assaulting your female relatives?

For millennia, men have demonstrated how much they hate and despise women, but we're not supposed to think that it says anything about men.
I guarantee that no person who enjoys such a fetish feels sexual attraction toward their relatives.
No scrote who has a fetish for sexually abusing women has EVER consumed content showing women being sexually abused. That's just feminist propaganda!
Rape. Here also, no one wants anyone to get hurt. However, it's strongly connected with blackmail and male domination, which is also a fetish. If someone plays with their partner at home pretending to be a student and teacher who demands sexual acts in exchange for a grade, should we label them as sick and call them rapists,
Oi femoid, don't ask questions about why so many moids get off on the idea of blackmailing and raping women or want to popularize it!
check their computer, and lock them in prison?
Genetic dead end males should be removed from the gene pool.
Can a game harm someone? According to many studies, with the emergence of the internet and pornography in the 90s, sexual crimes decreased by half.
Pro-porn moids often claim that pornography has single-handedly caused men to be less likely to be rape beasts, therefore pornography is good for society. Not only has this been heavily disputed (for example, crime heavily fell as a whole in the U.S. and many other countries in the 1990s, not just sex crimes), but they like to ignore the many other real and observable consequences of 24/7 access to pornography has had on society.

Since the 1990s, men who fetishize the state of being a woman (autogynephiles) have been allowed to destroy legislation and women's spaces. Male murderers have been able to get away with a slap on the wrist after claiming that they accidentally killed their victim during rough sex gone wrong. The concept of "kink-shaming" has been allowed to proliferate. Incel moids and moidlets sit and goon to pornography and then spread their unhinged anti-women propaganda all day long, and occasionally, one of them goes on to stab a woman/girl because he can't get laid. It has become socially acceptable to be an open degenerate.

Most importantly, women and girls continue to have their sexual boundaries eroded, as pornography has popularized degrading and even life-threatening sex acts. If a man wants to strangle a woman during sex in 2025, it's going to be easier to get her to accept it right away than it would've been in 1965. The fact that men can now more easily condition a woman to say yes to dangerous sex acts, or him gooning to "barely legal teen whore becomes a cum dumpster for her stepbro" because the woman doesn't want to be a kink-shaming prude is not something that reflects positively on pornography supporters.
If someone is sick, dangerous, and might actually harm someone, would playing a game or watching pornography increase their desire to do so? We sincerely doubt it; rather, they'll satisfy this need at home and perhaps save someone from harm.
He sounds like he'd be an Aella fan.
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It was also very inappropriate to report that the game was available to 12-year-olds. The game still required creating an account, selecting the appropriate option, connecting a credit card, and paying for it.
No 12-year-old has ever lied about their age online! That's also just feminist propaganda!
Please consider—would anyone who wasn't looking for such content hear about this game if it weren't for hundreds of articles, petitions, and statements from content creators? (...) There are certainly events that need to be publicized quickly, when someone is actually being harmed and we can save someone. Was it really necessary in this case, for those few views and extra money for fundraisers?
The deviant scrote only understands the language of repression and public shaming. If this causes even just a few deviant scrotes to feel like their precious gooning material is in danger, I consider it a win.
If after reading the above, you still believe that such a game should not have been created, then we sincerely apologize to you. At the same time, we would like you to be a bit more open to human fetishes that don't harm anyone, even though they may seem disgusting to you. This is still just a game, and although many people are trying to make it into something more, it remains and will continue to be a game.
The male deviant cries "It's normal to be into the idea of raping your mom, don't kink-shame" as he strikes you with his left hand and uses his right hand to fap fap fap to the contents of the latest kinkster fetishist slop incest rape simulator he just created.

Total Moid Death
 
Men complain they aren't allowed to show emotions, but they aren't allowed to rape and murder either and yet they manage to do that just fine.

Anyway here's some men proving that they are ofc the superior parents and women are dumbdumbs.

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The only part of this I believe is that he doesn't pay more than $100 in child support.

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Do boys even need clothes?!???! Like... just let them run around naked and shit on the floor?!?! Women are so fucking dumb spending so much money on unnecessary things like "diapers", did you know a diaper costs like 50ct for one in Trumpfs economy? Simply leave your kid naked outside to poop and pee in the yard where they play with sticks and rocks. Winter? Never heard of it.

Car seat? Don't need it, just put the child in your lap. Stroller? Just carry them around in a grocery bag, they're free. Crib? Nah a drawer with a blanket in it will do just fine. Food? They can forage to learn independence. Don't let some woman feminize your children by coddling them with these luxury items.

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A single crib from WalMart just eviscerated that 100 dollars of yours. Of course childcare is cheap when you're a literal man whore who only bothers to visit his children once or twice a year.
 
Car seat? Don't need it, just put the child in your lap. Stroller? Just carry them around in a grocery bag, they're free. Crib? Nah a drawer with a blanket in it will do just fine. Food? They can forage to learn independence. Don't let some woman feminize your children by coddling them with these luxury items.

A single crib from WalMart just eviscerated that 100 dollars of yours. Of course childcare is cheap when you're a literal man whore who only bothers to visit his children once or twice a year.

Well, yes, this. Children probably are cheap to raise if you don't give a shit about them. If, however, you actually care about their physical, intellectual and emotional development, you're going to need to spend some cash.

If you care about their safety, you're going to buy them a high chair, a car seat, a crib. Later on you will buy them a bed and several changes of linen and pillows and mattresses and blankets because you want them to be clean and comfortable. You'll buy properly fitted shoes over and over because they run through those like crazy but they need them for their balance and body to develop properly. You'll buy hats and jackets in winter and swimwear and shorts in summer because you want them to be able to play with their friends and learn social skills without being left out or having to worry about other things all the time. You'll replace all of these a lot. You will maintain a job or some other means of providing insurance for health and dental care or you will pay for their checkups and any medicines and medical attention they may need (add some gas money for ferrying them to all these appointments). These are mostly also not free even with insurance.

If you care about their intellectual development you'll buy them things that stimulate them like art and toys, and especially if you want them to be able to occupy themselves and want them to engage in developmental play. You'll buy a ton of books to interest them in reading and a bunch of paper and paints and crayons and glitter and playdoh and clay and pens. You'll probably enrol them in swimming or dancing or soccer or karate.

If you care about their emotional development you'll keep them clean (add kiddie shampoo, soap, a baby tub, a safety mat), their living space and clothes clean and intact, provide something to occupy them, take them to kindergarten and school and maybe pay for upgraded private versions of these, buy pens and pencils and backpacks and water bottles. Partly because they need these things; partly because providing the means to be clean and equipped and not lacking obvious things in their everyday lives makes them feel secure and confident.

Now, it is true that you don't have to be rich to do all this. Kids are resilient, and they can do without the optimal as long as they feel safe and loved. Mothers who are poor can recycle and thrift, go without themselves, and substitute attention and interaction for items and activities that cost money. This does, however, mean that if you don't have money you need to put in a whole hell of a lot of effort, which is apparently not on the moid radar.

The bottom line is that the cost of children expands to envelop whatever you can afford. If you actually give a shit, the more money you have, the more you spend on your kids, because who doesn't want a better mattress, better quality shoes and clothes, better schools, a safer car seat, a better bicycle (and on and on and on) for your kids?

Unless, I suppose, you are a moid who tosses their kids out in the backyard with one set of clothes and a bologna sandwich and calls it a day, and then wonders why they grow into another dumb stunted misogynist moid with the emotional intelligence of sea kelp.
 
In my experience and observations, what I've noticed is that for minor injuries men will tell other men to just suck it up or call them a wimp or something but when it comes to serious injuries they'll take it seriously. With women, men will act the opposite. If a guy sees a woman get a minor injury, they will tend to impose their help and white knight, not usually out of a sense of genuine concern, but because of more simp like, 'nice guy' reasons whereas with an actual serious injury they will downplay it and dismiss it or even act callously and coldly about it. I might be wrong, but this is sort of what I've noticed.
That's what I have noticed as well, but things get different when there's a serious underlying issue that requires decent medical attention, that's when women are brushed off, told that we make it all up. With men, yes, they are often told to suck it up by other men, but at least the pain is acknowledged (although, dare I say, fetishized) and if a man goes to a doctor, he got a greater chance of getting proper diagnosis and treatment.

With women, many aren't believed at all. And women weren't included in clinical trials for medicine up until very recently. Which is crucial since dosages matter depending on one's sex. Even severe disorders and conditions when you see a woman clearly being sick, are getting dismissed as her making this up or it's some psychosomatic problem. (Read, called "hysterical" in modern medical terms.)
 
when there's a serious underlying issue that requires decent medical attention, that's when women are brushed off, told that we make it all up
Yeah that's what I was saying. I've noticed this as well. Men will get made fun of if they complain about stubbing their toe or twisting their ankle or something but if they have a serious medical problem they'll be taken seriously, with women unfortunately they don't get taken seriously when there's a serious medical problem. It's happened to my wife a few times. She's had to go back to the doctor more than once for things because the doctor didn't really listen to her or address things properly. It's fucking frustrating. It upsets her and wastes time and she has to book another doctor's appointment or try and see a different doctor and shit like that. You're right too that that type of shit doesn't happen to me when I go to doctors. If anything it's the opposite, they just listen to what I say blindly and question nothing.
 
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A single crib from WalMart just eviscerated that 100 dollars of yours. Of course childcare is cheap when you're a literal man whore who only bothers to visit his children once or twice a year.
No, you're supposed to breast feed them and hand wash their shitty cloth diapers every day. Just wash their 3 outfits every day.

They don't need a crib, they can just sleep wherever. On the floor, on the couch, on the bed, on a pile of clothes. Who cares.

Car seat?? Nah. Just hold them or lay them on the seat. It's definitely not illegal.

Stroller? That's what women are for, carrying babies.

Baby food when it stops drinking milk? Just chew up food and spit it out for it.

Groceries? School supplies? School clothes? Sports? Hobbies? Tutoring? Birthday/Christmas? Allowance? Healthcare? Definitely don't need to spend any money there.

I'm sure there are plenty of other costs I haven't even considered, because I am not a mother.

At the very least, you'd think a moid could look back on his own childhood and remember what brought him happiness and comfort as a child, and think, yeah, my kids deserve that. But I doubt moids are capable of that level of empathy and future planning.
 
I'm sure there are plenty of other costs I haven't even considered, because I am not a mother.

At the very least, you'd think a moid could look back on his own childhood and remember what brought him happiness and comfort as a child, and think, yeah, my kids deserve that. But I doubt moids are capable of that level of empathy and future planning.

Oh yeah. First aid kit and thermometer and baby tylenol and neosporin and bandaids and school clothes and laundry pods and a spiralling electricity bill from all the laundry and gas to take them places and those just off the top of my head.

It's funny, isn't it? Just as moids think that women don't have entire, complicated, fleshed out human personalities, they don't think children (and probably women, too) have whole long days of interacting with the world around them in ways that encompass a variety of activities, things that can happen, accidents and illness, boredom, need for interaction and stimulation. "Just play with sticks" is the 2 dimensional solution, and they think no further, like you might say about a dog, as if you can give a child a stick and that's the whole day taken care of. They really don't think anyone but a man is an actual person.

Don't even start me on medical sexism. I was astonished that a male friend of mine was offered opioids for a respiratory problem and HE DIDN'T EVEN SAY IT HURT. That's your epidemic right there, male doctors dishing out drugs to men at the slightest whiff of potential pain (but they are soooo much tougher than women don'tchaknow). My mother once had to vomit actual blood right in front of a doctor before they would concede that something might be wrong (saying she had already done so was met with disbelief, must be mistaken or exaggerating because a vagina apparently makes you unable to correctly state simple facts). I will not be dragged kicking and screaming to a male doctor if I can possibly help it, if you're female they are the most useless fucks on the planet and your problems will be worse because now you've "seen" a doctor so why are you back "attention-seeking"? Worthless.
 
So what he's asking is... do you women from the thread also have these moments where you go "men, amairight? He he he, who needs them", but then, later on, get overwhelmed with a crushing existential dread of loneliness, physiologically longing for a romantic and physical connection that just doesn't seem possible, which makes you feel like you are going to die alone, but then you start imagining all sorts of scenarios of starting a family, raising children and cheerfully growing old with your partner, which causes you to feel even more sad and lonely than before, and it continues spiraling until you start crying or randomly talk with your close friends in discord VC at midnight or fall asleep?
Honestly, no, not ever, because I... I am a complete human being with a complete conception of self. I do not understand myself as somehow 'broken' or 'incomplete' or 'lacking', I never have.

No matter what burdens I have been wrestling with on an emotional or psychological level through the years, I have never had to question whether I was a complete person or some kind of NPC quest giver who only exists in the gaze of another. I am me, I have always been me, my relations with other perople are just that, with other people. I lack nothing to survive and grow. All that I need is within me, I am whole. I may want the love and companionship of others, but I don't need it, let alone "long" for it or view a lack of it as "existential dread".

This shit is insane. Are you actually saying that the normal male experience is to be incomplete, overcome by need for a host to parasite upon. I mean it would make a LOT of moid shit fall neatly into place but how the fuck can you even live with yourselves in this crippled and pathetic state.

Is this why moids can't parent, you are not actually complete enough to give of yourself to someone who is that dependent upon you. Your jug is broken and that's why you can't pour.
 
It's funny, isn't it? Just as moids think that women don't have entire, complicated, fleshed out human personalities, they don't think children (and probably women, too) have whole long days of interacting with the world around them in ways that encompass a variety of activities, things that can happen, accidents and illness, boredom, need for interaction and stimulation. "Just play with sticks" is the 2 dimensional solution, and they think no further, like you might say about a dog, as if you can give a child a stick and that's the whole day taken care of. They really don't think anyone but a man is an actual person.
They're the kind of narcissistic parent that only sees children as an extension of themselves, nothing more. The same kind of mindset that family annihilators have.

Today I recalled a conversation I had with a woman who grew up on a Native reserve. She spoke about one family where intergenerational child abuse (physical and sexual) is rampant because of how frequently people will cover abusive Moid’s asses. In many cases, its just to protect a family’s already terrible reputation.

She told me about how her friend came to school with bruises around her throat because her father choked her for not wanting to break up with with her boyfriend. The same father who was sexually abusing her. Yet, when the time came for him to be held legally accountable he got a slap on the wrist by the justice system just because he was in foster care for a week when he was 15.

Girls are especially pressured to stay tight lipped and to forgive their abusers, just because of “muh blood is thicker than water” logic that narc Moids love using all the fucking time.

Intergenerational trauma is proliferated by making excuses for abusive Moids.
 
This shit is insane. Are you actually saying that the normal male experience is to be incomplete, overcome by need for a host to parasite upon. I mean it would make a LOT of moid shit fall neatly into place but how the fuck can you even live with yourselves in this crippled and pathetic state.

Is this why moids can't parent, you are not actually complete enough to give of yourself to someone who is that dependent upon you. Your jug is broken and that's why you can't pour.
I can elaborate on this further, although it may not be appropriate for this sort of the thread, so I'm gonna try to keep it as short as possible.

The reality is that patriarchy, in a Foucauldian "Regime of Truth" kind of sense (knowledge and truth produced by power structures, not achieved through empiricism and rationality), for as much power that it brings to men, it also dehumanizes them. This dehumanization process creates a perpetual sense of longing for validation, desire to prove oneself, which makes them much easier to control and allows society to use them as tools to maintain pre-existing power structures. It creates a population pool of dependable army conscripts, that are happily willing to die as meat shields, just to prove how manly they are, to prove that their existence matters. Just take a look at this Russian army recruitment ad.


Of course, as others within this thread have rightfully pointed out, resisting and calling out this toxic mentality is a choice. But it is a choice with consequences. In the west (although it has gotten much better), if a man tries to call out toxic masculinity, he gets labelled a simp, a cuck, feminine and several other adjectives that denotes them as weak. Although it's still not nearly as bad compared to places with much more deeply imbedded patriarchal culture like Russia, where being a political activist opposed to such toxic regime of truth on masculinity can straight up get you arrested, beaten and tortured by cops, before you're sent to prison where you get further beaten and tortured by your inmates for being seen as a weak man.

This is all barely touching the surface still. If you want to see the patriarchy at it's worst, a manipulative cult of self-abasement and death, learn about boot camps and how new recruits are trained there, or how gangs and mafias recruit their henchmen. All the pretext of good masculine virtue like being the provider or force of stability is almost completely abandoned. You're definitely not taught how to parent or empathize there. If it all seems completely insane to you, that's fine, that only means you are normal... well kind off, you're still browsing kiwifarms, we all are just a little spastic from that alone. I may not agree with some of the things said within this thread, but I'd be lying if I said I don't feel at least a little scared with the sort of extreme masculinity that's becoming prevalent online among young men, as if we're getting groomed for the next great war. Some of you are gonna dance in jubilation from learning that fact, but others among your group do have the power to push the needle in changing society for the better. Afterall, there is a "crisis in masculinity", there is never before seen doubt in old power structures, so maybe a needle could be pushed just enough to prevent some great disaster from occurring.
 
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