Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

tbh irl dating these days is as bleak as online dating. 99% of events and classes in a 50 mile radius that aren't tabletop gaming or crypto lectures are populated entirely by women who also tried to find a partner irl. Men are quite vocal lately about preferring to stay at home with a beer and a video game instead of going out. Either because they have no friends, feel awkward about approaching women, or have a mighty fear of rejection -- see how many are desperate to persuade women to make the first move and woo and pursue them so they don't have to lift a finger anymore. Couple that with too many terminally online phone addicts suckered into rage bait that all women are unfaithful gold diggers and we have an inceedibly unmotivated generation.

Not meant to doompill or anything. Obviously people are still coupling up one way or another. And I still recommend meeting irl simply because they can't catfish or fake chemistry in real life. But I love going out to events and taking classes and it's striking how rarely I see young, single men out and about in general. The bar and club scenes are probably still raging, but I need a sheet mask on and in my pajamas by 11pm.
 
"women's" spaces on Reddit are dead. ALL of them have been invaded by troons. r/femcelgrippysockjail and r/letgirlshavefun is pretty much all men skinwalking as women, that seems like the type of meme that would come out of those subreddits, unfortunately.

Lesbian subreddits (the ones not dedicated to male-gazey porn) are all troons. How can you verify this? Subreddit User-Overlap is great. Unfortunately it doesn't have smaller subreddits like FCGSJ or LGHF on there.

Let's check some other overlaps, though?

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lmao.

Thankfully, subs like twoxchromosomes don't have as much troon overlap, but some of their mods are XY-havers. Odd.

From my knowledge, the only lesbian/women's subreddit that is not infested with TiMs is thelezistance. You could try Fourth Wave Women, too.
I'm very well aware of how bleak the reddit situation is. I'm a fag so I love women, and I've been using r/actuallesbians for a very long time cause why not, I love women. Only to then see the sub get filled up with these gross creatures posting about their "gocks" and "girlgasms" all day, going on how different they are from regular moid sticks cause "they feel different" "you just haven't tried it yet" "it's basically a strap on but better." When I tried to tell them in the nicest way how this shit is so fucking uncomfortable for so many women, I got banned. Then I lurked on a second account (mistake) and saw a post about how there's nothing wrong with not disclosing you're a tranny, and that a woman who upon sex finds out her date has a dick is obligated to take it wether she wants to or not, or she's a heckin transmisogynist. When I again, very kindly, pointed out this was fucking rape, I got banned again. I guess I got radicalized from this, but who wouldn't be? These people are genuinely insane. I genuinely remember the sub being usuable at some point, did the tranny mods just take over or something?
The only lesbian sub I use nowadays is lesbiangang, I can't find it on the subredditoverlap site strangely enough. They're very well aware of how gross and perverted trannies are, so it gives me some hope for online lesbian spaces being able to thrive even on a moid infested app such as reddit. Also the fact that I've actually started being able to go to lesbian spaces irl cause I moved to a city recently, and saw they're all tranny free, has made my life somewhat better.
 
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the scrotes here won't stop harassing me over such a small thing, Men always love to proclaim how their better, more mature and totally not into drama nonsense but like a dog once they've sunken their teef in they simply cannot ever let go of their unending self righteousness to prove just how much better they are. The reaction to the tea app proves exactly why it was needed, need i say more?
 
On the topic of BPD, I think a lot of the more severe symptoms (especially when it comes to poor emotional regulation, splitting and what not)… shit reminds me of what autistic males do when they are having troubles with gaming.

Whose to say that autistic women are being misdiagnosed due to the perception that autism in women is “rare”?
The difference would be about whether it's sensory overload vs a desire to punish or destroy to avenge your ego. Men with autism can develop NPD traits (and BPD traits) as a coping mechanism for not being able to socially navigate, basically it's not them that's inferior it's everyone else.
I'm a woman with Asperger's but honestly I've grown fatigued with the excuses autistic men will give for why they don't have a girlfriend (or just why they hate women.) They can use their brain, look up how to attract women and mask but instead the worse of them will blame society on why they aren't handed a woman on a silver platter. There are a million blogs/websites made by women saying what they actually want from men, there's no excuse to go into incel/manosphere spaces.

Also like... it isn't women's fault that autistic men started trooning out. It's yours.

I don't believe it's a Cluster B disorder thing either. (Especially since Cluster Bs are more extraverted.) It's a mix of wanting to be coddled and wanting answers delivered to them. But I do think it's more telling that BPD is a "woman" disorder. The "male" disorders ASPD and NPD don't get diagnosed until they hurt or murder someone. Hmmm....
 
the scrotes here won't stop harassing me over such a small thing, Men always love to proclaim how their better, more mature and totally not into drama nonsense but like a dog once they've sunken their teef in they simply cannot ever let go of their unending self righteousness to prove just how much better they are. The reaction to the tea app proves exactly why it was needed, need i say more?
Your last sentence is very true and I'm sorry you're being bullied, but girl, why did you tell them all that? Basically every board has a warning not to overshare for exactly this reason. It's a drama website. Everyone here is into drama whether they admit it or not, so you really shouldn't share embarrassing personal stories. That goes for the Salon as well. We have threads for people who powerlevel too much, like obese posters in the deathfat board.
 
Can someone explain to me why scrotes are being blamed for the Tea thing when the entire thing was a poorly designed ticking time bomb.
And i don't know about you but if i wanted a safe space free from moids i'd rather not have to show my bobs and vegana government ID and for it to be stored in a public database anyone can access called Tea_userbase_plzdontleak.excel.
They aren't being blamed for anything but their shitty reactions tbh.
 
Your last sentence is very true and I'm sorry you're being bullied, but girl, why did you tell them all that? Basically every board has a warning not to overshare for exactly this reason. It's a drama website. Everyone here is into drama whether they admit it or not, so you really shouldn't share embarrassing personal stories. That goes for the Salon as well. We have threads for people who powerlevel too much, like obese posters in the deathfat board.
I messed up, as a nurse I'm taught to be open, honest and self reflective about mistakes to absolve my self its really kinda religious in a way (i could go so much more into how religion has shaped nursing to be quasi-cult like but back on topic). Because they asked i thought it was okay to share and from there it just went horribly, thank you for the advice, I read it but never took it on till i messed up which is such a nurse thing, we start out working 1 year supervised and suppotered as a new grad, even after 3 years of uni and 800 hours of supervised placement, we're going to make mistakes and its the worst soul destroying feeling to be the one filling out the riskman but whats important is we learn from our mistakes and self admit our errors so we don't make them again, this isn't the worst time I've been humbled, some weeks it happens daily but i got too into arguing and fed the scrotes, if i could take it all back i would but for now I'm not engaging in their peanut gallery anymore, i know i messed up.
 
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I messed up, as a nurse I'm taught to be open, honest and self reflective about mistakes to absolve my self its really kinda religious in a way (i could go so much more into how religion has shaped nursing to be quasi-cult but back on topic). Because they asked i thought it was okay to share and from there it just went horribly, thank you for the advice, I read it but never took it on till i messed up which is such a nurse thing, we start out working 1 year supervised and suppotered as a new grad, even after 3 years of uni and 800 hours of supervised placement, we're going to make mistakes and its the worst soul destroying feeling to be the one filling out the riskman but whats important is we learn from our mistakes and self admit our errors so we don't make them again, this isn't the worst time I've been humbled, some weeks it happens daily but i got too into arguing and fed the scrotes, if i could take it all back i would but for now I'm not engaging in their peanut gallery anymore, i know i messed up.
I definetly get where you're coming from as someone in medicine myself. While it's a very good quality to be open about your fuckups and shortcomings in that kind of environment as even small mishaps can spiral into fucking someone's life over, on places like here you will set yourself up for disaster. As a previous user said, never divulge too much info about your personal life; best case scenario users will laught at you, worst case people can use hyperspecific info to actually find out where you are. Although, as a word as advice, don't do this irl either. Medicine fucking sucks (most times), and the way it's marketed as a lifestyle to get people to work gruelling hours really can worm its way into your brain, but your life outside work is your own. You're not in trouble for simple shit out here, and you're not owed anyone a detailed explanation for anything you've done, especially greasy moids you wouldn't be comfortable with in the first place. This situation definetly sucks but don't be too harsh on yourself, just take it as a learning experience.
 
Medicine fucking sucks (most times), and the way it's marketed as a lifestyle to get people to work gruelling hours really can worm its way into your brain,
Oh totally, medicine and the whole system preys on women's empathy and compassion to force us to self-sacrifice more and bleed us dry till there’s nothing left to give, we had a program to give us 2 hours off a fortnight to donate plasma, I had just joined the program and on the 4th week I was doing it my NUM took me aside and said she would totally mess with my roster unless I discontinued donating plasma because it was causing her difficulties?? Heart of a nurse <3 god I hate that phrase, yeah sure heart of a nurse my ass, the heart of a nurse is to take endless abuse, harassment and belittlement by SMOs and say nothing, to suffer in silence and then be crushed for speaking out and advocating.
 
Oh totally, medicine and the whole system preys on women's empathy and compassion to force us to self-sacrifice more and bleed us dry till there’s nothing left to give, we had a program to give us 2 hours off a fortnight to donate plasma, I had just joined the program and on the 4th week I was doing it my NUM took me aside and said she would totally mess with my roster unless I discontinued donating plasma because it was causing her difficulties?? Heart of a nurse <3 god I hate that phrase, yeah sure heart of a nurse my ass, the heart of a nurse is to take endless abuse, harassment and belittlement by SMOs and say nothing, to suffer in silence and then be crushed for speaking out and advocating.
You seem very kind and sensitive, I know nursing can be tough for people like you. Nurses take a lot of flak for being bitches and bullies, but I really don't see how anyone can work in that field long term without becoming cynical and distrustful of everyone around you. There's no way I could hack it.
 
Then again, I haven't dated in a decade so maybe it's really just that bad out there. Someone who's been single for longer might be able to weigh in on if it's still possible to find a date at the music store, or if men are actually terrified to approach women now like they claim.

What about music festivals for women looking for someone decent of either sex? They tend to be a more relaxed sociable environment, it’s totally acceptable to start talking to strangers and there is an automatic topic to talk about and common interest. Not trying to OT from the man-hate, but if I was single and looking I would consider genre specific music festivals.

I don't know why I ever click on sex-related A&N threads and think there will be any kind of decent commentary. Best I can get is a laugh from projections like this:

This ‘women are only looking for guys they can show off’ take is just such a perfect example of how every single criticism men ever have about women is pure ✨projection✨. I dont think men have the depth or social intelligence to actually be able to identify any genuine criticisms of women they might have, that would involve a level of insight into someone else that they don’t have the brain power for. They can only ever talk about and understand themselves, by bouncing their self reflections off of us.
 
What about music festivals for women looking for someone decent of either sex?

Dancing is one of my favorite activities and I now actively am contemplating no longer going out alone. The amount of reports of sexual assault I hear about around festivals (especially if camping is involved) is a topic of concern for me. Personally nightlife as a solo woman has gone from sometimes uncomfortable to actively off-putting. Literally all I want to do is vibe with cool people but the amount of unwanted verbal and physical contact is making my inner misanthrope think twice about being "out there".

This ‘women are only looking for guys they can show off’ take is just such a perfect example of how every single criticism men ever have about women is pure ✨projection✨.

It's funny, I have pegged men's general reactions of gender strife as projection but never put that together. Most guys are objectively not attractive so "they won't date me cuz ugly" is like triple cope. Plus I've seen enough guys glow up by not being shrimp dicked PC light dwellers to know it isn't as impossible as they think to become attractive enough to land a mate despite their ridiculous misfortune.
 
I'm a woman with Asperger's but honestly I've grown fatigued with the excuses autistic men will give for why they don't have a girlfriend (or just why they hate women.) They can use their brain, look up how to attract women and mask but instead the worse of them will blame society on why they aren't handed a woman on a silver platter. There are a million blogs/websites made by women saying what they actually want from men, there's no excuse to go into incel/manosphere spaces.
I've been a counsellor/instructor/trainer-type person for disabled/troubled teens and twens, including autistic boys, and they managed to find girlfriends.
The difference between those whining helplessly and those getting partners is the latter group tried to work on their shortcomings and wanted to overcome their unique difficulties (that's why they where at my institution): they worked on improving their lives. And women know: pro-active males who put work into solving their problems are good partner material.
The ones you describe are just excusing being lazy and possibly falling in with the wrong crowd ('tism boys tend to be naive).
 
Second leak hit the tea app this time chat messages leaked and basically is discussions about husbands /boyfriends cheating, arbortions and finding their husbands on the app holy shit

  • One user tells another they just discovered their husband on the app being discussed. “I am his wife,” many of the messages say.
  • Another appears to show a woman contacting others about a man she is engaged to.
  • Multiple messages which appear to show women discussing their abortions.
  • Chat logs between women discovering they are dating the same man, exchanging information such as what car he drives for verification.
Meanwhile men cry about liferuination alegations in the form of "small penis"

 
Second leak hit the tea app this time chat messages leaked and basically is discussions about husbands /boyfriends cheating, arbortions and finding their husbands on the app holy shit

  • One user tells another they just discovered their husband on the app being discussed. “I am his wife,” many of the messages say.
  • Another appears to show a woman contacting others about a man she is engaged to.
  • Multiple messages which appear to show women discussing their abortions.
  • Chat logs between women discovering they are dating the same man, exchanging information such as what car he drives for verification.
Meanwhile men cry about liferuination alegations in the form of "small penis"


The only thing men actually mean when they say their "lives with be ruined" by being posted on the tea app is that it'll make it harder for them to trick as many women into fucking them. That's literally it lmao. They'll claim to care about the supposed underage photos, the doxxing, or whatever else, but they don't give a shit about that stuff. They're mad because if the truth about them gets spread amongst women, they have less chances of getting laid, which for most men requires some level of lying.
 
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