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Official Space Station 13 Server
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I don't think botany as a whole is in terrible shape right now, but one thing that is a bit irksome is how time consuming and RNG heavy some of the steps are. I'd like to propose two possible changes that might alleviate this.
Firstly, expedite access to the Floral Somatoray. The Floral Somatoray is obtained through the Techfab after R&D has researched it and the Miners have obtained the necessary materials. It has several uses, but the one that people really care about is the ability to lock in what the next mutation of a plant will be if it has multiple paths it can go. This is a very useful ability that drastically cuts down on time wasted to RNG, or it would be if it was available sooner. ALL plants that have branching mutations split right after the very first plant on the chain. Because of this, going for your chosen path will be the very first thing you do when starting the round, NOT something you get to later. Because it's the first thing you do it's also one of the first major steps that you finish, and once it's done the Floral Somatoray loses much of it's usefulness with the time having already been spent. Having the Floral Somatoray earlier can reduce the time spent dealing with this considerably. My proposition is that in addition to the R&D route, you could obtain the Floral Somatoray in alternate ways, specifically by ordering it from Cargo. Perhaps even include it as a box set with the Botanogenetic Shears, although those aren't as time sensitive. Adding the Floral Somatoray to the Cargo catalogue would also be something that would encourage people to participate in more interdepartmental activity with cargo.
Secondly, increase the functionality of the Botanogenetic Shears. Currently the Botanogenetic Shears(also a R&D item) removes one trait from the selected plant, which is very useful in crafting the exact sample you want. My proposition would be to make it so when used, in addition to removing one trait they also create a graft containing the removed trait, which in turn could be applied to another plant. The Secateurs(another botany tool) already have a function like this for creating grafts, although it is considerably more restrictive as the graft the Secateurs create only contains a predetermined trait that is locked in for each specific plant breed. The way the system currently works wants you to spread traits through crosspollination, but if plants with multiple traits are involved, that results in RNG based results that can ruin a specimen and require replanting to try again, taking up an incredible amount of time. This proposed change won't make it so botanists can do things they couldn't do before, it will merely decrease the time, busywork, and luck required to create the same product.
Firstly, expedite access to the Floral Somatoray. The Floral Somatoray is obtained through the Techfab after R&D has researched it and the Miners have obtained the necessary materials. It has several uses, but the one that people really care about is the ability to lock in what the next mutation of a plant will be if it has multiple paths it can go. This is a very useful ability that drastically cuts down on time wasted to RNG, or it would be if it was available sooner. ALL plants that have branching mutations split right after the very first plant on the chain. Because of this, going for your chosen path will be the very first thing you do when starting the round, NOT something you get to later. Because it's the first thing you do it's also one of the first major steps that you finish, and once it's done the Floral Somatoray loses much of it's usefulness with the time having already been spent. Having the Floral Somatoray earlier can reduce the time spent dealing with this considerably. My proposition is that in addition to the R&D route, you could obtain the Floral Somatoray in alternate ways, specifically by ordering it from Cargo. Perhaps even include it as a box set with the Botanogenetic Shears, although those aren't as time sensitive. Adding the Floral Somatoray to the Cargo catalogue would also be something that would encourage people to participate in more interdepartmental activity with cargo.
Secondly, increase the functionality of the Botanogenetic Shears. Currently the Botanogenetic Shears(also a R&D item) removes one trait from the selected plant, which is very useful in crafting the exact sample you want. My proposition would be to make it so when used, in addition to removing one trait they also create a graft containing the removed trait, which in turn could be applied to another plant. The Secateurs(another botany tool) already have a function like this for creating grafts, although it is considerably more restrictive as the graft the Secateurs create only contains a predetermined trait that is locked in for each specific plant breed. The way the system currently works wants you to spread traits through crosspollination, but if plants with multiple traits are involved, that results in RNG based results that can ruin a specimen and require replanting to try again, taking up an incredible amount of time. This proposed change won't make it so botanists can do things they couldn't do before, it will merely decrease the time, busywork, and luck required to create the same product.
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New Rule: If you shit it up as command staff, any admin can ban you from command for as long as they want completely at their own discretion.
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A classic space song
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Many servers have Space Oddity thrown into the mix, which is something to keep in mind. Some use the original, a lot use covers though
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Behold Kiwistation13, an ss13 server outfitted with its own set of rules that should be followed. You might think to yourself "well thats just about the most ordinary thing on this godgiven earth, why is this man writing about this boring subject much less a treatise about it? Well as with many things the answer is power, what power you might ask let me answer, Administrators or jannies of space station13 are a breed of people that use the internet whose sole job is to not be paid and administrate a server, them being unpaid combined with having to deal with every kind of homosexual and nondesirable there is cause them to deviate from normal behaviour into bitter, angry individuals, endowed with power like this never ends well for anyone, not the adm*n nor the player.
To add to this pile of misery, degeneracy and moral freefall are the Head Administrators, they come in pairs of 4: 3 head admins and a host but for simplicities sake we'll clump them together as one entity. Do not be fooled, Head Admins are not of the same breed as normal jannies, they are barely human their only human factor is the fact that they are capable of typing out sentences on the internet, their whole being is not made of spirit body and mind as normal humans but hate, dirt, disdain, crusty socks and everything Godforsaken you can possibly think off, this makes them the most dangerous being in existence next to the armies of hell which they associate with in particular with beelzebub who is their direct progenitor by blood.
For the less intelligent asking themselves why this is an unjust ban let me demonstrate:
1. "joined as captain and immideatly declared all women characters were valid"
I joined as captain of course,mostly because i was scared of other people becoming captain who might not have the gut to keep the station intact.
Previous rounds on this station i had noticed a high amount of """""""">>>>>"Female"<<<<<<""""""" characters, of course any space station13 player knows, that not one woman has touched this game, ergo every female character is a maletofemale tranny giving me the absolute moral highground in ordering mass beatings.
I never said they were valid, i merely ordered the normal crewmates to beat up these infiltrators who are clearly up to nothing good.
With this i have proved the deception and treachery of that demonic entity "Head Administrator" the only thing this " person" administrates is the various circles of hell.
2. "Spent the round being obnoxious."
Seeing as i have demonstrated the deceptivness of the Godforsaken one i will call him on his lie and call forward witnesses when i gather them to dispute this fact.
3. "Finally broke the only hard rule we had by spamming alerts."
Okay my bad didnt know lmao also i only clicked the button like 5 times, sadly for me i gave him the cassus belli to instantly ban me witthout any warning, which shows that servants of satan have no sense of justice.
This is my case against an unjust ban, the jannies and trannies of space station 13
fin.
To add to this pile of misery, degeneracy and moral freefall are the Head Administrators, they come in pairs of 4: 3 head admins and a host but for simplicities sake we'll clump them together as one entity. Do not be fooled, Head Admins are not of the same breed as normal jannies, they are barely human their only human factor is the fact that they are capable of typing out sentences on the internet, their whole being is not made of spirit body and mind as normal humans but hate, dirt, disdain, crusty socks and everything Godforsaken you can possibly think off, this makes them the most dangerous being in existence next to the armies of hell which they associate with in particular with beelzebub who is their direct progenitor by blood.
For the less intelligent asking themselves why this is an unjust ban let me demonstrate:
1. "joined as captain and immideatly declared all women characters were valid"
I joined as captain of course,mostly because i was scared of other people becoming captain who might not have the gut to keep the station intact.
Previous rounds on this station i had noticed a high amount of """""""">>>>>"Female"<<<<<<""""""" characters, of course any space station13 player knows, that not one woman has touched this game, ergo every female character is a maletofemale tranny giving me the absolute moral highground in ordering mass beatings.
I never said they were valid, i merely ordered the normal crewmates to beat up these infiltrators who are clearly up to nothing good.
With this i have proved the deception and treachery of that demonic entity "Head Administrator" the only thing this " person" administrates is the various circles of hell.
2. "Spent the round being obnoxious."
Seeing as i have demonstrated the deceptivness of the Godforsaken one i will call him on his lie and call forward witnesses when i gather them to dispute this fact.
3. "Finally broke the only hard rule we had by spamming alerts."
Okay my bad didnt know lmao also i only clicked the button like 5 times, sadly for me i gave him the cassus belli to instantly ban me witthout any warning, which shows that servants of satan have no sense of justice.
This is my case against an unjust ban, the jannies and trannies of space station 13
fin.
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You are merely a faggot in a sea full of them i do not recognize you as a human being.
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Now this is the autism I was hoping for when null said we doing a space station now.
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Just wanna say Quarxink is a pretty good admin, probably would have been banned on other servers because I'm a literal retard.
Also, how do I get in touch with cargo? I'm usually engi and there's always shit I want
I'm not reading all of that text, your writing is awful
Also, how do I get in touch with cargo? I'm usually engi and there's always shit I want
I'm not reading all of that text, your writing is awful
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Go up to their window if someone is manning it, or use the bounty request console.
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What constitutes shit up? I tried a couple command posts to dip my toes in and failed big time, but unintentionally.
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Bounty was murdered by trannies. Working on fixing it.
giving out all access, using priority announcements to spam retard gibberish, accessing ai upload to annoy the fuck out of the ai.
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I'm implementing changes to cargo. Namely:
1) Bringing back bounties.
2) Making the mail sorting function more obvious.
3) Adding mail.
When exports are sold to CentComm, mail will be sent back. Mail is free, but can only be opened by the recipient (a living human with a client). For now, I do not intend for there to be any way to open mail if you are not the recipient. I'm also considering adding some sort of point reward for cargo if the letter is opened.
I am looking for a list of general goodies and also job specific goodies. Goodies should be toys, trinkets, or small boons. I am willing to accept conditional goodies if the idea is particularly good. I specifically do not want things that can cause another department to languish, namely food.
Examples of General Goodies:
- Credits.
- Instruments.
Examples of Conditional Goodies:
- Cigarettes for smokers.
- Strange reagent for heads whose pets are dead.
Examples of Job-Specific Goodies:
- Disk with research points for the RD.
- Strange Reagent (or other rare medicines) for the CMO.
- T4 parts for scientists, even at the start of the round.
- Spare moon clips for the Detective.
- Extra pies for the Clown.
- Metal / flashes for roboticist.
Jobs I have no loot for
Engineering: Atmos, Engineer, CE.
Service: Lawyer, Chaplain, Curator, Janitor, Psychologist
Prisoner. Give me some fun ideas for prison mail that doesn't encourage breakouts or griefing.
1) Bringing back bounties.
2) Making the mail sorting function more obvious.
3) Adding mail.
When exports are sold to CentComm, mail will be sent back. Mail is free, but can only be opened by the recipient (a living human with a client). For now, I do not intend for there to be any way to open mail if you are not the recipient. I'm also considering adding some sort of point reward for cargo if the letter is opened.
I am looking for a list of general goodies and also job specific goodies. Goodies should be toys, trinkets, or small boons. I am willing to accept conditional goodies if the idea is particularly good. I specifically do not want things that can cause another department to languish, namely food.
Examples of General Goodies:
- Credits.
- Instruments.
Examples of Conditional Goodies:
- Cigarettes for smokers.
- Strange reagent for heads whose pets are dead.
Examples of Job-Specific Goodies:
- Disk with research points for the RD.
- Strange Reagent (or other rare medicines) for the CMO.
- T4 parts for scientists, even at the start of the round.
- Spare moon clips for the Detective.
- Extra pies for the Clown.
- Metal / flashes for roboticist.
Jobs I have no loot for
Engineering: Atmos, Engineer, CE.
Service: Lawyer, Chaplain, Curator, Janitor, Psychologist
Prisoner. Give me some fun ideas for prison mail that doesn't encourage breakouts or griefing.
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well there are the obvious choices like food for chefs or insuls for engineers but I think that everyone should have a small chance to recieve a "Candy from grandma" that could have strong healing effects or something like that. I know that it sounds kinda busted and dumb but I don't care.
Also money. Getting one coin or chip of random value might be nice
Also money. Getting one coin or chip of random value might be nice
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I think one of the biggest round-ruining problems right now is the total lack of sec to deal with the dozen or so turbospergs who roll assistant every time and if they don't also roll antag they spend the round sprinting around the station breaking everything, shoving everyone, fucking up everything, desperately looking for excuses to kill people who fight back, and often ragequitting immediately when they get disarmed or arrested.
Null wondered why none of the autistic sec validhunters who get chastity-cucked by tg are joining kiwistation, and I think I know the reason. If they're joining, they're only joining as assistants and trying to create their own valids to hunt because sec are outnumbered, outplayed, bullied and called incompetent shitsec at every roundend because they couldn't deal with getting four-on-one'd by turbospergs toolboxing them for trying to stop them breaking the station. Sec want to wave their dicks around and feel like big men, and that might work on other servers where sec only deals with valid antags and occasional sneaky shitters instead of a teeming horde of smashy autists, but in kiwistation it's the smashy autists that get to feel like big men.
So my suggestion is give sec some valids to bully at roundstart. Create a list of 'known troublemakers' that shows up on sec terminals, and when people are observed to play like obnoxious spastic greytiders round after round, add them to that list, and don't take them off it until they've proven they can behave themselves. Let sec stop them, interrogate them and bag search them at any time, even before blue alert. If they're acting suspicious, permabrig. If they mouth off to sec, permabrig. If they're complained about by other station citizens, permabrig. If they're going into maintenance outside a radstorm, permabrig. If they're not doing their assigned job, permabrig. If they're an assistant and don't have a department head to say 'yes, they're actually assisting us', permabrig. If they're carrying shit they shouldn't be carrying to do their job, permabrig. If sec tells them to crawl around on the floor like a worthless dog and they won't do it, permabrig. If they fight back against sec or try to flee from sec, summarily execute them with no revive. Give sec a list of the most obnoxious pieces of shit and let them take out their murderous sociopathic power-fantasies on them, exclusively.
And that's how I think we can attract more sec players.
Null wondered why none of the autistic sec validhunters who get chastity-cucked by tg are joining kiwistation, and I think I know the reason. If they're joining, they're only joining as assistants and trying to create their own valids to hunt because sec are outnumbered, outplayed, bullied and called incompetent shitsec at every roundend because they couldn't deal with getting four-on-one'd by turbospergs toolboxing them for trying to stop them breaking the station. Sec want to wave their dicks around and feel like big men, and that might work on other servers where sec only deals with valid antags and occasional sneaky shitters instead of a teeming horde of smashy autists, but in kiwistation it's the smashy autists that get to feel like big men.
So my suggestion is give sec some valids to bully at roundstart. Create a list of 'known troublemakers' that shows up on sec terminals, and when people are observed to play like obnoxious spastic greytiders round after round, add them to that list, and don't take them off it until they've proven they can behave themselves. Let sec stop them, interrogate them and bag search them at any time, even before blue alert. If they're acting suspicious, permabrig. If they mouth off to sec, permabrig. If they're complained about by other station citizens, permabrig. If they're going into maintenance outside a radstorm, permabrig. If they're not doing their assigned job, permabrig. If they're an assistant and don't have a department head to say 'yes, they're actually assisting us', permabrig. If they're carrying shit they shouldn't be carrying to do their job, permabrig. If sec tells them to crawl around on the floor like a worthless dog and they won't do it, permabrig. If they fight back against sec or try to flee from sec, summarily execute them with no revive. Give sec a list of the most obnoxious pieces of shit and let them take out their murderous sociopathic power-fantasies on them, exclusively.
And that's how I think we can attract more sec players.
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Oh come on Josh, that's like half the fun of being a command role
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I recall Hippie replacing all lobby (and space ambience) music on the server with Space Oddity, Starman, and Life On Mars for a few weeks in memoriam of David Bowie back when the news broke about his death.
Those were pretty nice, too.
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