One Piece - I'm Gonna Be the Pirate King!

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so what are the odds the reason god valley vanishes is not because of imu or a buster call but instead because rocks has the yami yami no mi and simply consumed the entire island in darkness so when he died and when teach got the fruit he found out everything. thatch was being used by the will of rocks to get to teach.
We haven't seen Rocks with the Yami Yami yet, so unless he mastered it's powers almost instantly I doubt it, I would presume at the moment it has to do with the weird ass Go shit that Imu's fruit seems to have.
 
I think it is going to be more vague than that, think about the order of events.

God Valley

-20 years pass, Roger gets cancer aids-

Roger decides to navigate the grand line

Roger gets to Loadstar, hits a wall but gets enough info that he needs someone from Wano because they can read the poneglyphs

Whatever Rocks tells Roger has to be vague enough for Roger to dismiss it until he finds out he is dying and says "fuck it why not"

Which makes "the thing that roger and luffy said" even more interesting because it means a dying man thought it was viable.
Here’s the other things:

Luffy and Roger have the same true dream, and Luffy feels he needs to be the pirate king to make it reality, even if it’s something like “a world where people can eat as much as they want”.

When Roger found the treasure, he realized he was “too early” , and found himself wishing he lived in Joy Boy’s era, saying “what a funny story!” and decides to call the island that hadn’t been reached in 800 years “Laugh Tale”. Meanwhile, Whitebeard talked about how the treasure is more than a treasure, and the person who’ll find it is more than just somebody who figured out how to find where X marks the spot, and how Luffy is connected to a lot of things related to the lore that’s only now been expanded on…except Luffy doesn’t know or care about those things (and if he does care, it’s not in a way that changes his outlook on the world at large), which means Oda can more or less still write Luffy looking for The One Piece in this world of pirates with intrigue and drama bubbling underneath the surface as “some kid wearing a hat”.

I still think Roger is some type of Luffy prototype, with the only difference being that Roger is older, more mature, and can actually recognize the bigger scope of things and appreciate the significance. So whatever happens , Roger will have to have no idea of the implications of what he finds until he puts all the pieces together. That and also no desire to be some kind of legend either, nor some kind of rebel ready to talk about how he’s got this world changing knowledge the WG is so desperate to have kept under wraps.

It’s all a balancing act, you can say.
 
All these wano cover pages makes me assume Oda might surprise us with black beards crew heading there and causing destruction since they were told the ancient weapon was there not too long ago from an informant named Caribou
 
All these wano cover pages makes me assume Oda might surprise us with black beards crew heading there and causing destruction since they were told the ancient weapon was there not too long ago from an informant named Caribou
Burgess Goes...gets BTFO by Yamato because Burgess exists to job.
 
I would laugh if Rocks is the Yami Yami no Mi.
if the theory about devil fruits is true this could actually be the case. people could be getting their souls sealed inside the fruits which is why smile fruits are so fucked up they are imperfect devil fruits lacking a soul thus only the strongest people can make them work because their soul fuels it.
 
I would laugh if Rocks is the Yami Yami no Mi.
if the theory about devil fruits is true this could actually be the case. people could be getting their souls sealed inside the fruits which is why smile fruits are so fucked up they are imperfect devil fruits lacking a soul thus only the strongest people can make them work because their soul fuels it.
That would not make sense. The Yami Yami no Mi was recorded in the encyclopedia and thus has to be at least somewhat older.
 
if the theory about devil fruits is true this could actually be the case. people could be getting their souls sealed inside the fruits which is why smile fruits are so fucked up they are imperfect devil fruits lacking a soul thus only the strongest people can make them work because their soul fuels it.
That'd certainly explain why at least the Nika fruit would have its truth hidden. Throw it into the "wait for the endgame to talk about it" pile.
 
which means Oda can more or less still write Luffy looking for The One Piece in this world of pirates with intrigue and drama bubbling underneath the surface as “some kid wearing a hat”.
In an actual good example of this, I would say Luffy is more like the audience experiencing the story and world than just being an audience surrogate. He rejected the location of The One Piece because there's still a world that is worth seeing and the treasure is part of that journey. The journey of the series started with him and grew into the SH then we started seeing more forces at play that connect what is happening and why this treasure is so important.
 
I’m gonna be honest, I’m not a fan of these Celestial Dragons chapters. Every time they’re featured it’s the same broken record of “these people are horrible, you should hate them, please wait for the CDs to get what’s coming to them, like Luffy punching one in the face.” I get that’s the point because Oda is waiting to show how they got to how they are, and what’ll happen after their demise, but there’s nothing interesting or entertaining about them or their antics/behavior.

Did Dragon kill a celestial?
Considering how the Celestial Dragons are written, he might as well have, even if he didn’t.
 
As if we didn't have enough context to how Celestial Dragons are repulsive but i do love how Oda constantly twists the knife to show these are reprehensible people every time they're on screen.
 
I’m gonna be honest, I’m not a fan of these Celestial Dragons chapters. Every time they’re featured it’s the same broken record of “these people are horrible, you should hate them, please wait for the CDs to get what’s coming to them, like Luffy punching one in the face.” I get that’s the point because Oda is waiting to show how they got to how they are, and what’ll happen after their demise, but there’s nothing interesting or entertaining about them or their antics/behavior.


Considering how the Celestial Dragons are written, he might as well have, even if he didn’t.
I agree, as I myself have commented on how Garling is being portrayed.
I am divided on garling's characterization. I am starting to agree with that Mr. B guy that was here a while back. On some level as Oda really wants to push the idea that the celestial dragons are bad. We can't just have it that Garling is a complicit perpetator of the huntinng contest, he has to stab the woman he married and have her be an award forthe contest. On the otherhand, it makes sense. As we reach the end of the story,the reader needs a good and set justification for why the world government is bad and why it needs to be overthrown.
As i mentioned, i think Oda really just wants to emphasize who the villains are and why they must be defeated.
 
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As i mentioned, i think Oda really just wants to emphasize who the villains are and why they must be defeated.
I actually think slightly differently. I think they've been allowed to do this shit so Imu can "save" the populace from them. He's going to strike down the villainous rulers and usher in an era of freedom. Which is complete horse shit but when it comes to a mask you can discard when you want to rule openly could you get much better than this lot?
 
Oda has to show what the Celestial Dragon had done to the people on God Valley since the God Valley incident was a major event in the story and it's also needed for the Dragon moment in this chapter.
 
Oda has to show what the Celestial Dragon had done to the people on God Valley since the God Valley incident was a major event in the story and it's also needed for the Dragon moment in this chapter.
I thought the big deal was Roger, Garp, and Rocks to show how Garp got his nickname and how things turned into a narrative change akin to Alabasta.


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As i mentioned, i think Oda really just wants to emphasize who the villains are and why they must be defeated.
I get that, but it’s the same thing over and over again. Even God Valley seems like the standard rage inducing bullshit we’ve been told about the CDs and why they’re supposed to be hated. And why they must be defeated. It’s just that Oda is taking his sweet time to getting to where the CDs are…actually defeated. The endgame can’t come soon enough.
 
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