One Piece - I'm Gonna Be the Pirate King!

[assclown]

idk where to go to watch the rest of the series one pace doesn't have all the episodes

 

[Avroboros]

That is on me. What I mean to say is that when someone complains about these two gags, they really complain about the sexualization of women. Every time it is the same.

Which is another point that proves you haven't watched the video nor is interested in a normal discussion (clear sign of a bias, something you funnily enough accused me of having), since again, how can you speak so confidently and rebuke the video and I on points we don't even talk about? You're literally jumping at shadows and fighting ghosts.

Now you are misinterpreting me. That argument is about how stupid such complaints are.

I'm not, I can literally quote you buddy:

Why care about that? We are reaching the One Piece! Of course the people who have come this far are the important and the strong! That was the point! The characters trained hard to reach this point as everyone from now on will be strong and well connected! What is so surprising about that?! Strong people affect the world!

>Why are you complaining about this, of course people need to be strong since strong people affect the world

Which I had to say again that no, that's not what I was talking about.

Some people are more important than others. Some people know each other. Some are born with immense talent. Some inherited their talents. It is stupid to make the complain "This guy used to be just a strong dude, now he is the strong son of a strong dude". We did not know of Shanks' parentage before so his family could have been strong or weak.

Again, no shit that people are different and differ in importance. The point is: Shanks' backstory now falls within a cliché, on top of being questionable narrative-wise and unnecessary. I'll say it again (and for the last time, not gonna repeat myself anymore), I can understand the appeal of Shanks being a World Noble, but was it really necessary for him to explicitly be the son of a Gorosei? (could be literally anyone, but HAD to be connected to the top of power). When every single person in One Piece starts being interconnected, the world will ultimately feel smaller and smaller. <-- this is undeniable, if you have a gigantic world, but every single protagonist, antagonist and supporting-character are all related to each other, does the gigantic world truly matter here? Imagine if every single character in DC (superheroes, villains, deities, supernatural beings..) were all from New-York, do you not think this would lessen the story and make a major narrative problem in terms of realism and depth? (Imagine Darkseid being just a kid from Brooklin despite the fact that you know.. he's kind of an interdimensional God and everything, so how does this work?). Its not "all kinds of people from all corners of the world going on a hunt for the One Piece" anymore, its more like "a dozen distinct families are toppling the randos and competing amongst themselves for the One Piece", its not the same narrative weight. (Biggest example: Franky is a smart cyborg and so Oda HAD to give him a cyborg father that just so happens to be connected to Vegapunk, this is just dumb).

Here is what you ACTUALLY miss: You miss when Shanks was an enigma. A mystery. There are connections you never knew about

And that's ultimately the point. Shanks was a blank canvas that could've been filled with anything (or not, his mysterious mystique was also fantastic), but he HAD to be given what's arguably the worst cliché imaginable (which isn't an isolated incident, One Piece is starting to amass many of these "genetic conveniences").

Not saying that. I have no idea whether you like the series. If you are to have a hissy fit "I saw this video and came here to find out if it is true that One Piece sucks" then you are to be mocked for it

Holy fucking shit nigga. This HAS to be ragebait (yes, I definitely DESPISE the series despite me saying the contrary over 3 times at this point, and since I hate the series so much I came here to waste my time talking about it). This is either ragebait or you have the reading comprehension of a 5yo, pick one.

Besides, that's explicitly what the other dude said: "Nobody is going to read your paragraph on why One Piece sucks" (>Something I never did).

That is doom and gloom stuff. You are doomposting. Read the story with an open mind and come to your own conclusion. You clearly either fell out of love with the series and are here to be salty or you needed a break after very emotionally exhausting arc.

>Hurr durr criticism = doompost and salt

Wano's pacing was emotionally crippling tho that's for sure.

Not saying you do. Just saying you hate it when we find fun in something you have concluded to not have any anymore.

That's what the other dude projected about, his direct quote: "The issue is it’s the same “criticism,” verbatim, that low-IQ retards, such as yourself, have mindlessly parroted without actually considering since Wano ended, again all of which could be summed up as fundamental elements to an adventure series dressed up as critique by people, such as yourself, who can’t handle others liking what you don’t."

Pell should have died. Others should have too. Thing is, the climate at the time meant that editors would not allow overt violence or death depicted unless they knew what they could get away with. After the manga industry was blamed for the Otaku Killer murders, editors became skittish when it comes to this and that

Even IF this was true, you're saying that this was such a big deal for Oda (a japanese man btw) that even 25 YEARS LATER, he STILL refuses to kill characters because of it? And I know what you might say "that was at the time dood I never said that", and you'd be right, but here's the problem: IF this was the problem from that time, then what's making Oda continue doing this? And if you say "that's his personal choice, ask him or something", then that proves Oda is personally at fault for this. You can't defend him here, you can't justify this, there's no national or international organ that's preventing him from killing characters, there are no more international geopolitical events that're making a mere death in some japanese book "morally questionable". Oda is explicitly doing this because he wants to, and that ultimately hurts the series' storytelling.

Also, people have survived worse in real life than these injuries. Simo Hayha survived an explosive round to the face, there was the video of that bloke surviving lightning and Antrian Carton di Wyart (might be misspelling it) survived far worse shit. One Piece characters are stronger than real humans. Who knows? Maybe it make sense for that world.

Ok? Let me ask you this then:

>Can an ordinary 50yo man survive a direct impact with a laser-beam that's the girth of a small destroyer that was actively sent to kill him?
>Can some dude (a rather strong dude sure, but no special powers nor anything special about him) survive a direct explosion to the face from an island-sized nuke?
>Can some mediocre guy survive 2 TIMES being shot at point-blank range? (including the fact that in the 2nd time, he was tied up with metal chains and thrown into the fucking ocean (as a devil-fruit user btw) from a big ass ravine?
>Or (if you don't have any devil-fruit powers that counter this) how about being cleanly decapitated (perfect cut on one's neck)?
>Would you perhaps survive if you (an ordinary man) stood still and did nothing while an enraged 492cm (16'2) tall warrior with flaming powers explicitly tried to kill you with his flaming sword?

The best of all:
>Can anyone survive (if you don't have some kind of devil-fruit to counter this ofc) if you get cleanly cut in half from the top of your head to your asscheeks? (The most atomically perfect, succulent cut you have ever seen, vertically cutting you right in the middle of your entire body).

Like fuck me man, are we talking about Kaido here or what? THESE individuals should be the ones that're candidate for the title of Emperor and "The world's strongest creature" lmfao. This isn't even mentioning the death scenarios that pose narrative problems, but since you wanted to somehow defend this by essentially saying "akshually some people survived [thing] in real-life", by all means, rebuke these.

What I said is to be careful about opinions on the internet that agree with your biases. In the internet, there is always those who will agree. We all fell into that rabbit hole once.

Not what you said. Do you want me to quote you? Saying "be careful with opinions" and "you were actively manipulated by opinions" are different things:

Keep going until the conversation regarding it ends.

Also, do not base your understanding of everything regarding an anime from one video.

You still let the video color your impression of the story instead of taking the time to find out for yourself. You came here with a negative opinion and assumed that he was more right than he was. If you were more neutral, it would have been better.

You misrepresented and lied about everything I and the video said, and the other dude called me and the dude who agreed with me a retard. You either don't know what the concept of exchanging opinions mean, or you're actively (and maliciously) changing the whole narrative to paint yourself as a victim. Again, I can literally quote every single word coming from you, piece by piece, verbatim.

There you go:

Avroboros said:
1. Stagnation (the idea that every arc reuses the same formula to move the story)
2. Repetition (the idea that every arc reuses the same formula to conclude itself)

You agreed with the guy that said those. I even pointed out that the formula is not even followed most of the time. Some parts of it are but the entirety is not. Here is the REAL One Piece formula: The crew arrives at a place-> Shit hits the fan-> The crew leaves. That is the only standard. Everything else about "the formula" is optional.

Poorly executed is subjective. You did not go into details as to what made it so. The repetitive is not. I pointed out that arcs do things differently.

You said that tropes and formulas aren't a bad thing, which I never disagreed with, I said that One Piece's formula is bad (especially post-timeskip) and its tropes are becoming too convenient (remember, they're making the world feel smaller). Your formula of "The crew arrives at a place-> Shit hits the fan-> The crew leaves." is vague and can be applied to literally any arc (I'm not talking shit on every single arc, so we can drop this one). On the other hand, the very distinct and precise formula I'm actively talking shit about ("Arrive at Island -> Haha funni locals and rules -> Oh no oppressive ruler is making everyone miserable -> Meet tragic character that needs help ([insert tragic flashback]) -> Evil nigga is ambatublow the shit out of everyone -> Luffy punch baddie in the face -> Everyone laughs parties and leaves") is bad. Remember why I said "especially post-timeskip"? Because of course I recognize that pre-timeskip arcs are more unique (in one of your posts you complained about me not listing or "ignoring" arcs that are different, as if trying to portray me as a "cherry-picker". Don't you think I ignored them simply because they're not part of my point? Why am I going to waste my time talking about something that I'm not criticizing? It's as if I was talking shit about fake-out deaths and you complained about me not listing Sabo's fake-out death in Lulusia.. because I'm not against it? Its not part of the problem, so I'm not going to talk about it).

Now, if I'm one of the few hundreds, or one of the few dozens of thousand individuals who think that One Piece's formula is bad because of the reasons I listed? Yeah you could say i'm being subjective. But if a significant portion of the fanbase starts complaining about it too? Then I think it's fair to say that something's clearly wrong on an objective level (remember my Vaers Database analogy? Few = Noise, Many = Pattern).

Who the fuck said that? I said that THIS STYLE of commentary was invented by CinemaSins.

Which doesn't help you either. I'm not nitpicking every single aspect of the series like CinemaSins does (hence why it's one of the many reasons they're a retarded channel), I'm talking shit about very clear and distinct points (aka just common criticism). So there's literally nothing that I'm saying that's similar to CinemaSins in any way.

There are bigger coincidences in real life. This is not like winning the lottery twice in a row (has happened and it was caught on camera). Every story has coincidences. A story that goes on for 30 years will have a lot of them. Reality is a series of coincidences. Sometimes people luck out again and again. That is what keeps a story going. Sometimes, they are shit out of luck. That also keeps a story going. Want to hear a funny story about coincidences? Look up "Timothy Dexter". Reality is stranger than fiction.

(in-lore justification ensues)

Reality is a series of coincidences. Fiction reflects that.

Are you gonna keep using isolated real-life coincidences to justify overused tropes in fiction? It's like creationists saying "humans built car therefore god directly made this pine tree", and in this case "coincidence happened irl therefore all fictional coincidences forgiven".

You really like your small letters, don't you? Look, good or bad, most opinions are noise. Because they are subjective and everyone has one. Vaccine side-effects are different. You have them or you don't. It is far easier to take that data and analyze it, at least if people are honest.

Again, not if everyone's saying the same thing.

Noise = Isolated Incidents that occur randomly ("I hate Hunter X Hunter because Gon is a poopoo head!!") <- The opinion of a rando
Pattern = concrete reproduction of facts on a large scale ("The Namek Saga has a pacing problem because it took SSJ Goku 20 episodes to defeat Frieza"). <- the opinion of most of the fanbase

It is a sign that you are losing your cool. Calm down.

I'm perfectly calm, I'm just saying that he insulted me, therefore I have every right to call him a slur (and even enslave his entire family!) in return if I wish so.


Look, I'm not gonna be wasting my time with this weird back-and-forth anymore if this is all we're gonna do, me having to constantly repeat and clarify myself, while you actively misrepresent my points and justify Oda's goofs with very weak arguments (using the fact that some guy survived a grenade to the face irl to justify every single fake-out death in the series? really?). Because no matter what I say, "I MAY have a point here and there but actually not because I've been manipulated by the noise of the dumb masses from the youtubers who told me to agree with them, and so any criticism and opinion that differs from yours is in bad faith, biased and wrong because you just know it despite not even hearing it or properly understanding it. Besides it doesn't even matter because I apparently didn't actually watch the series and I hate it and I'm doomposting and [thing] happened in real-life anyways so everything is automatically and inherently justifiable. Oda completely is right about everything ever except for [very minor nitpick] that you personally disagree with here and there."

Anything else?

idk where to go to watch the rest of the series one pace doesn't have all the episodes

Unfortunately One Pace doesn't follow the same pace as the actual anime adaptation. So I recommend you use 9anime (if you have the guts to handle the extremely slow normal pacing), or you use some online websites (like "https://w59.onepiece-manga-online.net/") to read the manga.

 

[IamSpechal]

Look, I'm not gonna be wasting my time

Dude, seriously?

Lol.

Lmao even.

 

[Trombonista]

@Avroboros has been threadbanned for a day. Carry on.

 

[Incecticyder]

Which is another point that proves you haven't watched the video nor is interested in a normal discussion (clear sign of a bias, something you funnily enough accused me of having), since again, how can you speak so confidently and rebuke the video and I on points we don't even talk about? You're literally jumping at shadows and fighting ghosts.

It is the general complaint we get regarding these gags. Their issue is that it is a sexual joke that makes fun of women.

>Why are you complaining about this, of course people need to be strong since strong people affect the world

Which I had to say again that no, that's not what I was talking about.

You complain about Shanks' genetics. Maybe some of his talent stems from his parentage. Rare not to be the case. We are the product of our parents. Does it take away from his achievements? Does having Con. Haki have to do with genes? Maybe, maybe not. Rare for people to reach the very top with hard work alone. Genes and talent play a factor.

Again, no shit that people are different and differ in importance. The point is: Shanks' backstory now falls within a cliché, on top of being questionable narrative-wise and unnecessary. I'll say it again (and for the last time, not gonna repeat myself anymore), I can understand the appeal of Shanks being a World Noble, but was it really necessary for him to explicitly be the son of a Gorosei?

He was not BORN the son of a Gorosei. His father became one later. How? We do not know. Why? Because Saturn made massive mistakes and he was either next in line or the one most trusted by Imu. What that means? No idea. Do not dismiss the concept before it even does things.

When every single person in One Piece starts being interconnected, the world will ultimately feel smaller and smaller. <-- this is undeniable, if you have a gigantic world, but every single protagonist, antagonist and supporting-character are all related to each other, does the gigantic world truly matter here?

The world is not endless. We explored quite a bit of it by now. It is finite. We are running out. Were you expecting it to go forever? It is a single planet! This is a story about travel! People get connected! Many are traveling! Marines travel! Pirates travel! Unrelated organizations travel! Random people travel! The WG spans the planet!

<-- this is undeniable, if you have a gigantic world, but every single protagonist, antagonist and supporting-character are all related to each other, does the gigantic world truly matter here? Imagine if every single character in DC (superheroes, villains, deities, supernatural beings..) were all from New-York, do you not think this would lessen the story and make a major narrative problem in terms of realism and depth? (Imagine Darkseid being just a kid from Brooklin despite the fact that you know.. he's kind of an interdimensional God and everything, so how does this work?). Its not "all kinds of people from all corners of the world going on a hunt for the One Piece" anymore, its more like "a dozen distinct families are toppling the randos and competing amongst themselves for the One Piece", its not the same narrative weight. (Biggest example: Franky is a smart cyborg and so Oda HAD to give him a cyborg father that just so happens to be connected to Vegapunk, this is just dumb).

You are comparing being from the same city as being from the same planet? Also, Darkseid is weird to bring out since this is an extreme. The character does not work like that. Couldn't you find a better character for this metaphor? Strong, influential people that are after the same thing would always meet. They are heading for the same thing or to stop others from obtaining the thing! When everyone is searching for the same goal, patterns will emerge. Patterns always emerge. The world can look big once you start the journey but by the end, it will look far smaller. What One Piece does better than any other series is keep the world moving. Everyone does things. Everyone goes on with their lives. No one stands still. Some work in the shadows, others in the light. People meet, interact and change. That is true for real life and in One Piece. The world might be getting smaller as we explore it but it becomes more alive. I think there is a Tekking video that explains that.

And that's ultimately the point. Shanks was a blank canvas that could've been filled with anything (or not, his mysterious mystique was also fantastic), but he HAD to be given what's arguably the worst cliché imaginable (which isn't an isolated incident, One Piece is starting to amass many of these "genetic conveniences").

I do not consider it a cliche. Just a trope. We have not seen the fruition of that plot point. A mysterious character is guaranteed to have an important background. No one is interested in the guy who became king because he was bored one day. And every field has "genetic conveniences" as the norm regarding those at the very top. Science has mostly naturally 150 IQ guys at the top and athleticism has talented monsters like Bolt or Mayweather. The top, both in One Piece and reality is filled with the exceptional. Not average Joes.

There are those that believe in the "Six Stories Theory".

Holy fucking shit nigga. This HAS to be ragebait (yes, I definitely DESPISE the series despite me saying the contrary over 3 times at this point, and since I hate the series so much I came here to waste my time talking about it). This is either ragebait or you have the reading comprehension of a 5yo, pick one.

I did not say you despise the series. You just cannot see what we like about it.

Besides, that's explicitly what the other dude said: "Nobody is going to read your paragraph on why One Piece sucks" (>Something I never did).

I am only responsible for my own words. Others are allowed to disagree with my opinion.

>Hurr durr criticism = doompost and salt

Wano's pacing was emotionally crippling tho that's for sure.

Not all criticism is worth taking into consideration. You did come here with a post about how One Piece definitively sucks now.

As for Wano, I think someone stretched it. Either the editor or Oda or a higher-up was really in love with it. Or it got bloated by accident.

Even IF this was true, you're saying that this was such a big deal for Oda (a japanese man btw) that even 25 YEARS LATER, he STILL refuses to kill characters because of it? And I know what you might say "that was at the time dood I never said that", and you'd be right, but here's the problem: IF this was the problem from that time, then what's making Oda continue doing this? And if you say "that's his personal choice, ask him or something", then that proves Oda is personally at fault for this. You can't defend him here, you can't justify this, there's no national or international organ that's preventing him from killing characters, there are no more international geopolitical events that're making a mere death in some japanese book "morally questionable". Oda is explicitly doing this because he wants to, and that ultimately hurts the series' storytelling.

Oda has literally killed a whole lot of characters since 2010. WB, Ace, Pedro, Asura, Izo, Yasuie, Vegapunk, Cobra, Mjosguard, T-Bone, off the top of my head. These are just the good guys that died. The bad guys Vergo, Monet, Guernica, Maha, Absalom, Saturn, Orochi, Kanjuro, Kaidou and BM are also dead. There were some deaths before the time-skip but less so in number.

Ok? Let me ask you this then:

>Can an ordinary 50yo man survive a direct impact with a laser-beam that's the girth of a small destroyer that was actively sent to kill him?
>Can some dude (a rather strong dude sure, but no special powers nor anything special about him) survive a direct explosion to the face from an island-sized nuke?
>Can some mediocre guy survive 2 TIMES being shot at point-blank range? (including the fact that in the 2nd time, he was tied up with metal chains and thrown into the fucking ocean (as a devil-fruit user btw) from a big ass ravine?
>Or (if you don't have any devil-fruit powers that counter this) how about being cleanly decapitated (perfect cut on one's neck)?
>Would you perhaps survive if you (an ordinary man) stood still and did nothing while an enraged 492cm (16'2) tall warrior with flaming powers explicitly tried to kill you with his flaming sword?

The best of all:
>Can anyone survive (if you don't have some kind of devil-fruit to counter this ofc) if you get cleanly cut in half from the top of your head to your asscheeks? (The most atomically perfect, succulent cut you have ever seen, vertically cutting you right in the middle of your entire body).

Like fuck me man, are we talking about Kaido here or what? THESE individuals should be the ones that're candidate for the title of Emperor and "The world's strongest creature" lmfao. This isn't even mentioning the death scenarios that pose narrative problems, but since you wanted to somehow defend this by essentially saying "akshually some people survived [thing] in real-life", by all means, rebuke these.

Not saying there were ZERO bullshit survivals. Just not as many. I have read about survivals you would not believe. Also, I suspend my disbelief to an extend. I would not be able to accept a lot of things about fiction otherwise.

our formula of "The crew arrives at a place-> Shit hits the fan-> The crew leaves." is vague and can be applied to literally any arc (I'm not talking shit on every single arc, so we can drop this one).

Yes. That was the point. That was the only thing every arc had in common.

On the other hand, the very distinct and precise formula I'm actively talking shit about ("Arrive at Island -> Haha funni locals and rules -> Oh no oppressive ruler is making everyone miserable -> Meet tragic character that needs help ([insert tragic flashback]) -> Evil nigga is ambatublow the shit out of everyone -> Luffy punch baddie in the face -> Everyone laughs parties and leaves") is bad.

A formula that I pointed out was not real. Punk Hazard and Egghead had no real locals, just staff. Neptune, Caesar (while evil), Mink rulers and Vegapunk did not oppress (even BM was well regarded to an extent). Punk Hazard and Zou (unless you count the minor ones that talked about recent events) did not have such a flashback. The bad guys did not want to harm Egghead and the BM Pirates tried to prevent the destruction. And everyone was running away in Dressrosa, Totto Land and Egghead. Luffy does get to punch someone though. The formula is not being followed. Every arc has SOME elements but almost none of them have all of them. That is what I am telling you.

Because of course I recognize that pre-timeskip arcs are more unique (in one of your posts you complained about me not listing or "ignoring" arcs that are different, as if trying to portray me as a "cherry-picker". Don't you think I ignored them simply because they're not part of my point? Why am I going to waste my time talking about something that I'm not criticizing? It's as if I was talking shit about fake-out deaths and you complained about me not listing Sabo's fake-out death in Lulusia.. because I'm not against it? Its not part of the problem, so I'm not going to talk about it).

Your formula theory does not work well on the Pre-time skip islands. There were just as many islands that followed the formula as in the Post-time skip. Remember, Skypeia followed it to a T. Whiskey Peak, Little Garden, Water 7 and the Separation Saga were the only ones that seriously deviated. The rest did not as much.

Drum Island and Arabasta followed a lot. Thriller Bark and Sabaoby followed it somewhat too. Your criticism for the Post-timeskip can apply just as much for the pre-timeskip.

Now, if I'm one of the few hundreds, or one of the few dozens of thousand individuals who think that One Piece's formula is bad because of the reasons I listed? Yeah you could say i'm being subjective. But if a significant portion of the fanbase starts complaining about it too? Then I think it's fair to say that something's clearly wrong on an objective level (remember my Vaers Database analogy? Few = Noise, Many = Pattern).

As I said, the formula is a misconception. It is not as followed as most people think. Just because people think it is followed, it does not mean it is.

Most people believe that until Colombus came around, humans believe the Earth was flat. Truth is, we knew it was round. We did not know America was a thing. See? A misconception!

Which doesn't help you either. I'm not nitpicking every single aspect of the series like CinemaSins does (hence why it's one of the many reasons they're a retarded channel), I'm talking shit about very clear and distinct points (aka just common criticism). So there's literally nothing that I'm saying that's similar to CinemaSins in any way.

Common criticism =/= valid criticism. Many people can be wrong. See above.

Are you gonna keep using isolated real-life coincidences to justify overused tropes in fiction? It's like creationists saying "humans built car therefore god directly made this pine tree", and in this case "coincidence happened irl therefore all fictional coincidences forgiven".

What I am saying is that reality is stranger than fiction. Suspend your disbelief. In many occasions, all the pieces are falling into place. Sometimes by design, sometimes by accident.

Again, not if everyone's saying the same thing.

Noise = Isolated Incidents that occur randomly ("I hate Hunter X Hunter because Gon is a poopoo head!!") <- The opinion of a rando
Pattern = concrete reproduction of facts on a large scale ("The Namek Saga has a pacing problem because it took SSJ Goku 20 episodes to defeat Frieza"). <- the opinion of most of the fanbase

That problem is mainly in the anime that stretched the fight. Goku defeated Frieza rather quickly in the manga.

Also, not liking a main characteristic of the main character is a valid complaint. Not understanding the character is not.

Look, I'm not gonna be wasting my time with this weird back-and-forth anymore if this is all we're gonna do, me having to constantly repeat and clarify myself, while you actively misrepresent my points and justify Oda's goofs with very weak arguments (using the fact that some guy survived a grenade to the face irl to justify every single fake-out death in the series? really?). Because no matter what I say, "I MAY have a point here and there but actually not because I've been manipulated by the noise of the dumb masses from the youtubers who told me to agree with them, and so any criticism and opinion that differs from yours is in bad faith, biased and wrong because you just know it despite not even hearing it or properly understanding it. Besides it doesn't even matter because I apparently didn't actually watch the series and I hate it and I'm doomposting and [thing] happened in real-life anyways so everything is automatically and inherently justifiable. Oda completely is right about everything ever except for [very minor nitpick] that you personally disagree with here and there."

Again, not every fake-out death can be excused. Yes, people can survive shit.

As far as biases go, no one is immune. Just keep an open mind and do not believe everything that agrees with you. Oda is not perfect. No one is. The complaints I mentioned are some of the things that I personally cannot find a use for in the work. There are other things that I do not like but strongly suspect others do so I did not mention them. I do not want the story to fit my tastes alone. Even if it means I get less enjoyment.

Finally, learn to format better. Do you know how confusing your word walls are? Do not post just your first draft! Proofread!

@Avroboros has been threadbanned for a day. Carry on.

Look, I had already started writing this. I had to finish.

 

[Another Random]

Can I just say I don't care about people not dying in One Piece and I don't get why people get so up in arms about that?

It's been nearly 30 years since everyone started yelling about Pell surviving and I just don't care anymore. One Piece has had the main protagonist punting people into the atmosphere since he punched a giant fish. Zoro was in a house blown up by a bomb that supposedly could have killed Ruffy and all it did was piss him off. Ruffy punched a mantle of spikes and survived Don Krieg's explosion spear and was fine like 5 minutes later. People survived Enel sending thunderbolts at them. I can't even believe Kaido and Big Mom are dead and Oda dumped them into freaking magma because they're so tough and people mostly don't die in One Piece.

Why do people surviving stuff bother some readers so much?

 

[TerminalTryHard]

Back to the new chapter: the last panel is pretty ominous. Hope nothing happens to Loki.

 

[Tetragrammaton]

I can't even believe Kaido and Big Mom are dead and Oda dumped them into freaking magma because they're so tough and people mostly don't die in One Piece.

i think kaido might be dead or at least majorly wounded but big moms totally alive unless we see a vivre card of hers burn up shes not dead. either way i think either of them being tossed into magma was just meant to represent how oden died being boiled alive.

Back to the new chapter: the last panel is pretty ominous. Hope nothing happens to Loki.

oh yeah imu is totally going to try and domi reversi loki.

 

[Random Internet Person]

oh yeah imu is totally going to try and domi reversi loki.

Is that how we’re going to get Nika being a god of destruction?

 

[Incecticyder]

Is that how we’re going to get Nika being a god of destruction?

Destruction and rebirth come together. He is also the god of dawn which destroys the darkness and brings forth a new day.

 

[Snake of Diamond]

And once again the day is saved thanks to the monster trio. And Loki.

By the end we're gonna see people saying Loki should join the crew lol

 

[Light blue notebook]

oh yeah imu is totally going to try and domi reversi loki.

Imu really want that Hogg.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

By the end we're gonna see people saying Loki should join the crew lol

Luffy already asked and he rarely takes no for an answer, so it's only a matter of time.

 

[whatever I feel like]

" could have killed Ruffy"

Oh, learry? I nevel courdu have gessued.


Edit: I know this tradeoff isn't possible to make but I wish Oda would unclutter his panels and have more pages instead. Let the assistants deal with the increased character detail. Even though his art is still technically proficient its such a pain to read versus, say, East Blue.

 

[Tetragrammaton]

Is that how we’re going to get Nika being a god of destruction?

maybe? though honestly the more i see the more i start to wonder if nika being a god of destruction is going to end up being similar to fishman island where luffy/the strawhats were supposed to bring destruction to fishman island only for luffy to leave as a hero. that being said loki and luffy have to fight one way or another the fact that it was brought up that nika fought against another giant that was using the nidhogg fruit proves as much.

 

[Random Internet Person]

By the end we're gonna see people saying Loki should join the crew lol

I thought we already had that.

 

[Lone Star]

Can I just say I don't care about people not dying in One Piece and I don't get why people get so up in arms about that?

It's been nearly 30 years since everyone started yelling about Pell surviving and I just don't care anymore. One Piece has had the main protagonist punting people into the atmosphere since he punched a giant fish. Zoro was in a house blown up by a bomb that supposedly could have killed Ruffy and all it did was piss him off. Ruffy punched a mantle of spikes and survived Don Krieg's explosion spear and was fine like 5 minutes later. People survived Enel sending thunderbolts at them. I can't even believe Kaido and Big Mom are dead and Oda dumped them into freaking magma because they're so tough and people mostly don't die in One Piece.

Why do people surviving stuff bother some readers so much?

I don't get it either. Like Oda's shown for decades he clearly doesn't like to kill characters and people have yet to get over it.

 

[Incecticyder]

I don't get it either. Like Oda's shown for decades he clearly doesn't like to kill characters and people have yet to get over it.

That is what they do not get. They think that Oda not LIKING killing his characters is the same as never ACTUALLY doing it.

 

[Susie Legion Simp]

Hey just wanted to pop in and mention that I'm really happy for Loki's Fruit being a Dragon. Because I loooove Dragons, and it's an awesome Dragon to boot! Still waiting on a Tyrranosaurus Fruit character though, and I'm still shocked that we haven't seen one yet.

I don't get it either. Like Oda's shown for decades he clearly doesn't like to kill characters and people have yet to get over it.

Tell that to poor Monet! I don't even know if her sister Sugar knows about her death!

 

[Exegesis]

Talk about a drop in quality.
One Piece would've been better off if Oda knew how to be concise and not drag out a mid story for fucking decades. The manga would've ended in 2009 at the latest if Oda took even the most basic college level writing classes.