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Disappointed, I was expecting something else when Tomar said he was going to return to his days of Grand Wizardry.https://youtube.com/watch?v=nmBSIKCkO5Q
Wasn't expecting them to play noita, hope a few more eps are in the pipe
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Disappointed, I was expecting something else when Tomar said he was going to return to his days of Grand Wizardry.https://youtube.com/watch?v=nmBSIKCkO5Q
Wasn't expecting them to play noita, hope a few more eps are in the pipe
I always liked Lyle's Trumby video. It was the first time I heard Zach's Trump impression and it did the impossible by being a video about Trump that was actually funny.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=buiv3_uVHSA
I especially like this in the video's description.
In hindsight it's creepy how prophetic this silly video was.
So that's why Tomar wanted Norm of the KKK to win.Disappointed, I was expecting something else when Tomar said he was going to return to his days of Grand Wizardry.
I think a lot of newgrounds people/oneys friends did. Even crazy old Stamper did voicework.I didn’t realize Tomar and Lyle have done voice work for Hazbin Hotel.
Good god the comments on that second video. Its like an army of that buttabistasi guy. Ill see if I can suffer through the podcast and recap but if it gets any worse than inflation I'm tapping out, ate too soon ago to deal with much more.joolian was on a podcast by another furry degenerate who also recorded himself doing whatever the fuck this is:
https://youtu.be/O2vImHvIb3s
he’s very poorly disguising his voice. i can’t be shat to listen to two faggots talk about getting hard to inflation for a fucking hour so I’m not making a summary
All that inflation talk and they managed to avoid Dobson/CattyN. That’s rather impressive.Ok, here we go. First 3 minutes and Cleverfoxman's asking Julian about the specifics of his muscular and hyper art. They rib on every furry smut story that starts as like "so and so was an average person until he took strange supplements" and Cleverfoxman, who I'll refer to as CFM from here on out, derails the train of thought by saying a story like that would be good if the person being affected by it was spiderman(?). The way he mentions it oozes with autism and Julian just kinda agrees. He follows up by asking if Batman the Animated series is what kickstarted his fetish and Julian seems legitimately confused by this.
-Julian admits Earthworm Jim and Street Sharks is what got him into muscle stuff. CFM says earthworm jim kicks off a lot of fetishes(?)
-Julian draws a lot of pompadours and cigars because he likes cartoony phallic symbols.
-CFM did a "science experiment" where he drew "photorealistic inflation". Julian says being unappealing can be appealing. He sounds like hes trying to be polite about what CFM says.
They meander and talk about dialup internet and what music they listen to for a while. Only notable moment is that CFM is an idiot and played explicit music on loop over the speakers at the grocery store. Julian says calling people negro isn't thst bad and tries to steer the conversation back to his work.
-15 minutes in, back on the topic of Julian, he admits how he got his start. He claims to have been very sexually repressed until he was 19 when he got his furaffinity account where his friends coaxed him to move from sfw art and move on to fetish art for commissions.
-Julian admits that people who draw commissioned inflation art are suffering from soul draining despair from drawing it all the time, himself included occasionally.
-CFM asks Julian about what he uses to draw only to start bragging about his setup when Julian reveals hes too poor to afford a nice tablet. Maybe I'm imagining it or maybe its the voice changer but Julian sounds a bit jealous and upset by it.
-CFM brags about how he doesn't have problems drawing anatomy that Julian has. Julian snarks back with "sure" and tries to change the subject. Julian may be a degenerate but at least he's kind. CFM seems like an asshole.
-CFM says when he tells people about furries he tells them to imagine a sexual fetish and put furry on like a bandaid. At least he's honest.
They talk about boring media shit for a while. Not much to talk about here, other than CFM claiming historical art is mostly shit and then claims Rembrandt inspires his work. I havent seen CFM's art but I'm really doubting a lot of his claims about his art. Julian asks how Rembrandt inspires his and CFM deflects by talking some nonsense about how they use shadows in filmmaking.
-40 something minutes in. Julian talks about "twunks" and how he likes lanky guys who still have a bit of muscle. Idk what DingDong looks like but it makes me wonder.
-CFM asks if his parents know about his art. Julian admits that he doesn't talk to his parents anymore but that they've walked in on him drawing in the past.
-Oh lord. CFM's admitted that he sat his parents down told his parents about his inflation fetish art and how its how he makes money. He claims hes adult enough to admit its something he likes and at least he isn't a serial killer. Julian seems audibly uncomfortable. Seriously, what the fuck, keep your degeneracy to yourself. Don't drag your poor parents into it even if they don't know where your money comes from. I'd rather my parents think I was selling drugs on the side than know I drew degenerate fetish art.
-Julian doesn't want to normalize fetish shit but says you shouldn't be ashamed of yourself. CFM adds on that he thinks the next big struggle isn't "who you like to fuck, but how you like to fuck." I'm getting strong vibes that CFM hasn't fucked anyone.
-Julian makes a joke about air compressors in the ass and CFM starts talking about "if you must inflate yourself with industrial equipment find the safest way to do it"
-CFM talks about people popping in real life as if he investigates real life inflation all the time. He then kinkshames people who are into vore because vore is gross without even a hint of self awareness.
-CFM keeps talking about horrible inflation based death and compressed air knives and Julian sounds rightfully horrified.
-Seems a bit rapey to me but CFM and Julian talk about how inflation or musclefication are more fun if the person doesnt want it to happen
-Julian doesn't like bothering people who wouldn't like his art so he tries to keep it on the down low so it's hard to stumble on.
-CFM is autistic about bellybuttons and photoshops them to his likings.
-CFM tries to get Julian to talk about the anatomy of obese people. Julian gets grossed out.
-Despite the uncomfy moments, Julian says he had fun with the podcast.
Sorry this recap is more about CFM than Julian but CFM seems to only want to talk about himself and his fetishes. Julian's too much of a pushover to do anything about it. All in all it was pretty fucking boring, I almost fell asleep partway through. CFM is unbearable and if we don't have a thread on him over at animal control I think he might warrant one, at least for his podcast.
Also sorry for doubleposting.
Made an archive just in case. (audio only)joolian was on a podcast by another furry degenerate who also recorded himself doing whatever the fuck this is:
https://youtu.be/O2vImHvIb3s
he’s very poorly disguising his voice. i can’t be shat to listen to two faggots talk about getting hard to inflation for a fucking hour so I’m not making a summary
Ok, here we go. First 3 minutes and Cleverfoxman's asking Julian about the specifics of his muscular and hyper art. They rib on every furry smut story that starts as like "so and so was an average person until he took strange supplements" and Cleverfoxman, who I'll refer to as CFM from here on out, derails the train of thought by saying a story like that would be good if the person being affected by it was spiderman(?). The way he mentions it oozes with autism and Julian just kinda agrees. He follows up by asking if Batman the Animated series is what kickstarted his fetish and Julian seems legitimately confused by this.
-Julian admits Earthworm Jim and Street Sharks is what got him into muscle stuff. CFM says earthworm jim kicks off a lot of fetishes(?)
-Julian draws a lot of pompadours and cigars because he likes cartoony phallic symbols.
-CFM did a "science experiment" where he drew "photorealistic inflation". Julian says being unappealing can be appealing. He sounds like hes trying to be polite about what CFM says.
They meander and talk about dialup internet and what music they listen to for a while. Only notable moment is that CFM is an idiot and played explicit music on loop over the speakers at the grocery store. Julian says calling people negro isn't thst bad and tries to steer the conversation back to his work.
-15 minutes in, back on the topic of Julian, he admits how he got his start. He claims to have been very sexually repressed until he was 19 when he got his furaffinity account where his friends coaxed him to move from sfw art and move on to fetish art for commissions.
-Julian admits that people who draw commissioned inflation art are suffering from soul draining despair from drawing it all the time, himself included occasionally.
-CFM asks Julian about what he uses to draw only to start bragging about his setup when Julian reveals hes too poor to afford a nice tablet. Maybe I'm imagining it or maybe its the voice changer but Julian sounds a bit jealous and upset by it.
-CFM brags about how he doesn't have problems drawing anatomy that Julian has. Julian snarks back with "sure" and tries to change the subject. Julian may be a degenerate but at least he's kind. CFM seems like an asshole.
-CFM says when he tells people about furries he tells them to imagine a sexual fetish and put furry on like a bandaid. At least he's honest.
They talk about boring media shit for a while. Not much to talk about here, other than CFM claiming historical art is mostly shit and then claims Rembrandt inspires his work. I havent seen CFM's art but I'm really doubting a lot of his claims about his art. Julian asks how Rembrandt inspires his and CFM deflects by talking some nonsense about how they use shadows in filmmaking.
-40 something minutes in. Julian talks about "twunks" and how he likes lanky guys who still have a bit of muscle. Idk what DingDong looks like but it makes me wonder.
-CFM asks if his parents know about his art. Julian admits that he doesn't talk to his parents anymore but that they've walked in on him drawing in the past.
-Oh lord. CFM's admitted that he sat his parents down told his parents about his inflation fetish art and how its how he makes money. He claims hes adult enough to admit its something he likes and at least he isn't a serial killer. Julian seems audibly uncomfortable. Seriously, what the fuck, keep your degeneracy to yourself. Don't drag your poor parents into it even if they don't know where your money comes from. I'd rather my parents think I was selling drugs on the side than know I drew degenerate fetish art.
-Julian doesn't want to normalize fetish shit but says you shouldn't be ashamed of yourself. CFM adds on that he thinks the next big struggle isn't "who you like to fuck, but how you like to fuck." I'm getting strong vibes that CFM hasn't fucked anyone.
-Julian makes a joke about air compressors in the ass and CFM starts talking about "if you must inflate yourself with industrial equipment find the safest way to do it"
-CFM talks about people popping in real life as if he investigates real life inflation all the time. He then kinkshames people who are into vore because vore is gross without even a hint of self awareness.
-CFM keeps talking about horrible inflation based death and compressed air knives and Julian sounds rightfully horrified.
-Seems a bit rapey to me but CFM and Julian talk about how inflation or musclefication are more fun if the person doesnt want it to happen
-Julian doesn't like bothering people who wouldn't like his art so he tries to keep it on the down low so it's hard to stumble on.
-CFM is autistic about bellybuttons and photoshops them to his likings.
-CFM tries to get Julian to talk about the anatomy of obese people. Julian gets grossed out.
-Despite the uncomfy moments, Julian says he had fun with the podcast.
Sorry this recap is more about CFM than Julian but CFM seems to only want to talk about himself and his fetishes. Julian's too much of a pushover to do anything about it. All in all it was pretty fucking boring, I almost fell asleep partway through. CFM is unbearable and if we don't have a thread on him over at animal control I think he might warrant one, at least for his podcast.
Also sorry for doubleposting.
But in the end he does still have these fetishes and wants to talk about them publicly. Like him or not, this is the degeneracy he chooses I suppose.Wow, something about all of this is really fucking sad. At least Julian has a level-headed perspective on this stuff (doesn't want to normalize but he doesn't want to feel bad about it) but this CFM guy seems like the ugly truth of how most of these people actually are: pathologically delusional and way beyond antisocial.
It seems like Julian doesn't even like drawing this stuff but, given how crappy his life has been, it seems like the only thing that gives him an escapist relief. I mean, I don't want to be an armchair psychologist or something, but it really does seem like the debilitatingly low self esteem that DingDong and Julian have is perpetuated by their participation in stuff like this, continually pushing themselves into the grimy corners of society. I guess they don't have to feel bad about it, but making it a part of their identity just seems really sad, like a surrender or defeat or something.
Ok, here we go. First 3 minutes and Cleverfoxman's asking Julian about the specifics of his muscular and hyper art. They rib on every furry smut story that starts as like "so and so was an average person until he took strange supplements" and Cleverfoxman, who I'll refer to as CFM from here on out, derails the train of thought by saying a story like that would be good if the person being affected by it was spiderman(?). The way he mentions it oozes with autism and Julian just kinda agrees. He follows up by asking if Batman the Animated series is what kickstarted his fetish and Julian seems legitimately confused by this.
-Julian admits Earthworm Jim and Street Sharks is what got him into muscle stuff. CFM says earthworm jim kicks off a lot of fetishes(?)
-Julian draws a lot of pompadours and cigars because he likes cartoony phallic symbols.
-CFM did a "science experiment" where he drew "photorealistic inflation". Julian says being unappealing can be appealing. He sounds like hes trying to be polite about what CFM says.
They meander and talk about dialup internet and what music they listen to for a while. Only notable moment is that CFM is an idiot and played explicit music on loop over the speakers at the grocery store. Julian says calling people negro isn't thst bad and tries to steer the conversation back to his work.
-15 minutes in, back on the topic of Julian, he admits how he got his start. He claims to have been very sexually repressed until he was 19 when he got his furaffinity account where his friends coaxed him to move from sfw art and move on to fetish art for commissions.
-Julian admits that people who draw commissioned inflation art are suffering from soul draining despair from drawing it all the time, himself included occasionally.
-CFM asks Julian about what he uses to draw only to start bragging about his setup when Julian reveals hes too poor to afford a nice tablet. Maybe I'm imagining it or maybe its the voice changer but Julian sounds a bit jealous and upset by it.
-CFM brags about how he doesn't have problems drawing anatomy that Julian has. Julian snarks back with "sure" and tries to change the subject. Julian may be a degenerate but at least he's kind. CFM seems like an asshole.
-CFM says when he tells people about furries he tells them to imagine a sexual fetish and put furry on like a bandaid. At least he's honest.
They talk about boring media shit for a while. Not much to talk about here, other than CFM claiming historical art is mostly shit and then claims Rembrandt inspires his work. I havent seen CFM's art but I'm really doubting a lot of his claims about his art. Julian asks how Rembrandt inspires his and CFM deflects by talking some nonsense about how they use shadows in filmmaking.
-40 something minutes in. Julian talks about "twunks" and how he likes lanky guys who still have a bit of muscle. Idk what DingDong looks like but it makes me wonder.
-CFM asks if his parents know about his art. Julian admits that he doesn't talk to his parents anymore but that they've walked in on him drawing in the past.
-Oh lord. CFM's admitted that he sat his parents down told his parents about his inflation fetish art and how its how he makes money. He claims hes adult enough to admit its something he likes and at least he isn't a serial killer. Julian seems audibly uncomfortable. Seriously, what the fuck, keep your degeneracy to yourself. Don't drag your poor parents into it even if they don't know where your money comes from. I'd rather my parents think I was selling drugs on the side than know I drew degenerate fetish art.
-Julian doesn't want to normalize fetish shit but says you shouldn't be ashamed of yourself. CFM adds on that he thinks the next big struggle isn't "who you like to fuck, but how you like to fuck." I'm getting strong vibes that CFM hasn't fucked anyone.
-Julian makes a joke about air compressors in the ass and CFM starts talking about "if you must inflate yourself with industrial equipment find the safest way to do it"
-CFM talks about people popping in real life as if he investigates real life inflation all the time. He then kinkshames people who are into vore because vore is gross without even a hint of self awareness.
-CFM keeps talking about horrible inflation based death and compressed air knives and Julian sounds rightfully horrified.
-Seems a bit rapey to me but CFM and Julian talk about how inflation or musclefication are more fun if the person doesnt want it to happen
-Julian doesn't like bothering people who wouldn't like his art so he tries to keep it on the down low so it's hard to stumble on.
-CFM is autistic about bellybuttons and photoshops them to his likings.
-CFM tries to get Julian to talk about the anatomy of obese people. Julian gets grossed out.
-Despite the uncomfy moments, Julian says he had fun with the podcast.
Sorry this recap is more about CFM than Julian but CFM seems to only want to talk about himself and his fetishes. Julian's too much of a pushover to do anything about it. All in all it was pretty fucking boring, I almost fell asleep partway through. CFM is unbearable and if we don't have a thread on him over at animal control I think he might warrant one, at least for his podcast.
Also sorry for doubleposting.
Wow, something about all of this is really fucking sad. At least Julian has a level-headed perspective on this stuff (doesn't want to normalize but he doesn't want to feel bad about it) but this CFM guy seems like the ugly truth of how most of these people actually are: pathologically delusional and way beyond antisocial.
It seems like Julian doesn't even like drawing this stuff but, given how crappy his life has been, it seems like the only thing that gives him an escapist relief. I mean, I don't want to be an armchair psychologist or something, but it really does seem like the debilitatingly low self esteem that DingDong and Julian have is perpetuated by their participation in stuff like this, continually pushing themselves into the grimy corners of society. I guess they don't have to feel bad about it, but making it a part of their identity just seems really sad, like a surrender or defeat or something.
If it makes any difference, Julian posted this journal on his FA a while ago where he reminisces about his decade “anniversary” as a furry and seems to take pride in it.Eh, I'd give it time. They're not so removed from a lot of the muck just yet.
Jules mentioned in one of his... tumblr? I think, posts, that he essentially helped to fund his escape from his shit home life through those fetish art commissions. That gives it a sort of weird relevance for the course of his life that might not be true for your average schlub - who draws the shit while getting better at art, builds up a real-person portfolio, and then forever closes the door on their strange secrets. Julian also seems to be a highly idealistic person, even if he doesn't necessarily come off as one - it seems like he verymuch wants to own himself for who he is, but to do so in a healthy and unobsessive way.
Long-term, I think this is the healthy way to go about things. But right now, they're still going to be cutting their teeth to get a foothold out of it and to put some distance between the weird saga of skirting around the grimey bits of the internet and their more measured, professional ambitions. I have to imagine it's both a bit of esteem issues from trying to process that history as well as just interacting with the figures from that history: niche fetish communities have some of the absolute worst people on the planet, as the Farms often details, and all it takes is one particularly pissed-off lunatic to harass and harangue you for a long while.
But Jules also explained a bit of his own discomfort with Let's Plays stemming from a sortof steward/guardian role he played in his formative years in that same blogpost. All in all, I get the feeling they're just in the process of figuring things out and hustling to achieve a dream -- and the fact that they're working towards something that isn't stained in degenerate filth is going to get the guy some ire from those who're just going to create weird fetish shit for the rest of their days. Especially since the guy fully admits he still indulges in that perversion -- there's nothing that breaks a coomer down more than seeing someone who -also- has their weird fetish -not- be utterly consumed to the point of stasis by it.
I mean, Chris draws Ding Dong as relatively tall and lanky, so maybe?
Then again he draws himself as short and chubby when pics reveal he’s relatively decent looking. So who knows?
I've also seen this image float around 4chan and heard that there was an image everyone passed around claiming to be Dingdong that actually turned out to be some unrelated relative of his. Maybe one of these was that image or they could both be fakes, it's hard to tell.I think it's pretty solidly confirmed that this is him:
nice lipstick, oneyI've also seen this image float around 4chan and heard that there was an image everyone passed around claiming to be Dingdong that actually turned out to be some unrelated relative of his. Maybe one of these was that image or they could both be fakes, it's hard to tell.