Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[Kofi Drinka]

jannys just confirmed that are not streaming the talk in the debconf irc

They're not streaming it because someone might say something there and they won't be able to cut the stream fast enough to hide it. So they're recording it to upload later edited if it happens.

There wouldn't be enough storage space in the world to stockpile all the evidence. Throw a stone in a crowd of corpo-foss devs and there is almost a 90% chance you will hit a nonce.

It should still be done and the sooner the better.

 

[Overly Serious]

everyone was kicked from the grand amphi irc with this message

[NAME] was kicked from #debconf-grandamphi by themill [You should know better]

Everyone? EVERYONE?!??!!

 

[alphabetnigger]

I think the debconf team are just not going to cut the cameras to the amphi and the stream will end in 20 minutes.

 

[Markass the Worst]

I don't understand their decisions. Are they just hoping this goes away? It won't. What he did was so depraved, disgusting and horrifying, people aren't just going to forget. Especially his victims, who testified against him a decade later.

There is literally nothing redeeming about what he did. Even if they weren't underage, they were still his sisters. Even if they weren't, it was still rape, thousands of times. Even if it wasn't, he literally made them bleed in agonizing pain.

Why the fuck do you protect this man, DebConf?

 

[GoysGoneWild]

There's been some weird and sketchy shit in Debian for a while.

 

[Samuel Fuller]

There's been some weird and sketchy shit in FOSS for a while.

Adjusted for honesty.

 

[Panzerfrau]

It won't.

It won't?
Admitting that a brave warrior who defaced XLibre's wiki is a fucking evil monster would be "letting chuds win" and this can NEVER happen. No meaningful news outlet will pick up on this story.

 

[filthypenguin]

There's been some weird and sketchy shit in Debian for a while.

Basically ever since Ian got taken out by the glowies.

 

[CrunkLord420]

[17:16] <@Sledge> we have the video, it'll be posted later

This is ridiculous. I was thinking they're going to quietly let Jeremy Bicha present while simultaneously pretending it didn't happen. But they're worried about IRC? People want to see how many fucking Debian people professionally sit down to listen to a chomo give a totally unnecessary and pointless changelog review for GNOME.

Most of the talks at DebConf are pointless and provide little value to anyone. DebConf, like the majority of conferences in FOSS, are pork barrel wastes of donor money to throw a party. They do not create value, they just waste money.

Conference culture needs to die. I thought Casey Muratoi had some good thoughts on conferences, relating to why he stopped doing the Handmade Conference.
tldw: Conferences are just gatekeeping information that you could have posted online in a better way. It's unethical and immoral to limit access based on cost and travel restrictions. There is no solution. No amount of free passes and diversity initiatives fix this.

 

[break these cuffs]

I don't understand their decisions. Are they just hoping this goes away? It won't. What he did was so depraved, disgusting and horrifying, people aren't just going to forget. Especially his victims, who testified against him a decade later.

There is literally nothing redeeming about what he did. Even if they weren't underage, they were still his sisters. Even if they weren't, it was still rape, thousands of times. Even if it wasn't, he literally made them bleed in agonizing pain.

Why the fuck do you protect this man, DebConf?

Bicha has got to be a folk hero for a bunch of them. He's a guy who got to live out their most depraved fantasies and they're in a position to help him while maintaining some level of deniability. Any time they want to jerk off they can just go read the horrifying testimony of his victims.

They're also so kneejerk retarded that they have to protect one of their own because people with the wrong opinions are attacking him.

 

[Nozo-miko]

jannys just confirmed that are not streaming the talk in the debconf irc

They're banning and kicking off people from the channels right now.

18<Joe_Go18> I can't see the stream for the Debian 13 Gnome talk. Was it cancelled?
22* 26ChanServ da op a 18DLange
22* 26highvoltage banea a 18*!*Joe_Go@43.225.189.*
22* 26highvoltage ha expulsado a 18Joe_Go de 22#debconf (24Joe_Go)
18<andrewsh18> petn-randall: so *are* you coming or not?
18<olly[mds]18> Joe_Go: Apparently it wasn't streamed but will be posted later
18<olly[mds]18> The talk did happen

 

[Chimplord1997]

Debconf is sponsored by Lenovo. It would be a shame if anyone so inclined informed Lenovo that they're sponsoring a talk given by a child rapist.

 

[The Unoffical Exar Kun]

Debconf is sponsored by Lenovo. It would be a shame if anyone so inclined informed Lenovo that they're sponsoring a talk given by a child rapist.

Agreed, people need to start going after sponsors. Enough is enough, anyone running cover for this demon is pure evil and DESERVES to lose everything.

 

[meniche]

They're not streaming it because someone might say something there and they won't be able to cut the stream fast enough to hide it.

ding ding ding,

their main concern is to keep playing pretend, and act as if there is no issue.

 

[Swole McPole]

Conferences are just gatekeeping information that you could have posted online in a better way.

I thought they were just a free holiday on somebody else's dollar.

 

[Harambe]

It would have been really awkward to cancel the disgraced pedophile rapist's talk, can you imagine the dead air, or if someone else had to review GNOME's changelogs? What would people think? What would they say?

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Debconf is sponsored by Lenovo. It would be a shame if anyone so inclined informed Lenovo that they're sponsoring a talk given by a child rapist.

It's too late, he gave his talk, is about to dig into his liver and fava beans dinner, and then he'll board the Magic Bus for Rape Camp. Source

 

[CrunkLord420]

I thought they were just a free holiday on somebody else's dollar.

For DebConf there is no information to gatekeep. HandmadeConf had lots of high quality talks. Mike Acton's 3 big lies talk is always good, something the Wayland developers should really watch. Namely lie #1: Software is the platform.

 

[Overly Serious]

There wouldn't be enough storage space in the world to stockpile all the evidence. Throw a stone in a crowd of corpo-foss devs and there is almost a 90% chance you will hit a nonce.

Still, it's not necessarily a bad idea jokes aside.

Most of the talks at DebConf are pointless and provide little value to anyone. DebConf, like the majority of conferences in FOSS, are pork barrel wastes of donor money to throw a party. They do not create value, they just waste money.

I caught bits of the two preceding his. The one immediately before was a woman talking about how she set up XMPP for her family. I really couldn't see anything more technical in her talk than that. And even then there were no details. The one before seemed more involved but nothing that deep and he said himself that his talk was a "plea for help" hoping to get others involved. The room looked mostly empty for both of them - about sixteen people?

Debconf is sponsored by Lenovo. It would be a shame if anyone so inclined informed Lenovo that they're sponsoring a talk given by a child rapist.

And more than that also now - by their actions they clearly knew before the talk about his past and were actively going to bat for him. There's no excuse for that.

And when the inevitable accusations of hypocrisy from the Progressives come in: "Oooooh, now you believe in cancel culture do you?" the reply is pretty easy: "Yes, because now it's about people who molest six year old girls not who have a different political view".

 

[Betonhaus]

Debconf is sponsored by Lenovo. It would be a shame if anyone so inclined informed Lenovo that they're sponsoring a talk given by a child rapist.

As a Chinese company I doubt Lenovo would look fondly on organizations supporting pedophiles