Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[Creative Username]

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you do have a point i guess
i just think the technology itself is fairly neat despite the stupid freedom-trampling shit google and friends like to use it for (treating the user as one of the security vulnerabilities)

they've been making computers that only boot their own signed firmware since the early 2000s (see: game consoles) so i will continue doing what i've always done: not buy or use those
if we all end up on old thinkpads like the people who want to run 100% free software then i guess that's how things will go down
and that's probably how things will go down unless reprap technology gets so good that you can effectively 3d print a gpu if you're autistic enough
if i had this kind of technology i would throw in secure boot and tpms because why not

 

[Max Weber]

LWN: Bcachefs goes to "externally maintained" (a)
Phoronix: Linus Torvalds Marks Bcachefs As Now "Externally Maintained" (a)
So, not completely out of the kernel (yet), but not accepting patches.

 

[SCV]

you do have a point i guess
i just think the technology itself is fairly neat despite the stupid freedom-trampling shit google and friends like to use it for (treating the user as one of the security vulnerabilities)

they've been making computers that only boot their own signed firmware since the early 2000s (see: game consoles) so i will continue doing what i've always done: not buy or use those
if we all end up on old thinkpads like the people who want to run 100% free software then i guess that's how things will go down
and that's probably how things will go down unless reprap technology gets so good that you can effectively 3d print a gpu if you're autistic enough
if i had this kind of technology i would throw in secure boot and tpms because why not

Just to drive this home:

Brazil has effectively banned Linux on it's Internet monitoring and censorship bill (disguised as a anti child exploitation and internet access law) which is a literal copy of the draconian UK law.
https://www.camara.leg.br/proposico...r=2986940&filename=REDACAO FINAL PL 2628/2022

The BRs probably won't do anything to people installing linux on a device they already own, but requiring manufacturers to have a secure boot implementation that only allows windows or macOS in order to sell new devices would be easy to do. No one should support secure boot.

 

[Creative Username]

The BRs probably won't do anything to people installing linux on a device they already own, but requiring manufacturers to have a secure boot implementation that only allows windows or macOS in order to sell new devices would be easy to do. No one should support secure boot.

this kind of thing has been around (and frequently used) since before secure boot was a thing on the pc
if the corpogovniggers want to fuck us they will find a way, whether it's secure boot specifically or something else entirely

that said, i don't hate the boot; i hate the fascists who think it's a great idea to stomp on people's necks with it
taking away the most convenient boots that are available might be a good thing, but the people who want to stomp on your neck won't just go away, they'll figure out some way to sneak boots back in or they will find some other way to oppress you anyway
there are many ways they could fuck you that don't involve secure boot at all. i'm thinking that they could outlaw reverse engineering drivers for critical devices or something. same effect!

you are right, there will probably be some bullshit law passed and nobody will be able to run good software on new hardware. enjoy being able to run the shit you want while it lasts
...or maybe they won't and we will always be able to find at least a few motherboards that you can turn off the checks for

 

[AnOminous]

they've been making computers that only boot their own signed firmware since the early 2000s (see: game consoles) so i will continue doing what i've always done: not buy or use those

Imagine being a console peasant in current year.

 

[Ed Special]

Imagine being a console peasant in current year.

I'm all for PCMR, but like... have you seen what hardware costs nowadays? Novideo saw giga-downies paying scalpers $3k for GPUs during the plandemic crypto boom and said, "Yeah, we are the market, so we can squeeze consoomers for that much ourselves" and haven't even fucking bothered with any budget cards with more RAM or compute power than a 1060 6gb despite their ability to do so, and AMD can't meaningfully compete at the low end compete because they thought it brilliant to split workstation and consumer into two architecture lines... and while I'm glad Intel's trying, Arc still isn't mature yet. It's not like 2018 anymore, where $500 would have gotten you a system that dabs on the "current-gen" consoles all day every day. Unfortunately, for the vast majority of people, console (more specifically PS5) is the rational choice.

 

[Creative Username]

I'm all for PCMR, but like... have you seen what hardware costs nowadays? Novideo saw giga-downies paying scalpers $3k for GPUs during the plandemic crypto boom and said, "Yeah, we are the market, so we can squeeze consoomers for that much ourselves" and haven't even fucking bothered with any budget cards with more RAM or compute power than a 1060 6gb despite their ability to do so, and AMD can't meaningfully compete at the low end compete because they thought it brilliant to split workstation and consumer into two architecture lines... and while I'm glad Intel's trying, Arc still isn't mature yet. It's not like 2018 anymore, where $500 would have gotten you a system that dabs on the "current-gen" consoles all day every day.

on the bright side, older and less demanding games often run just fine on the shittiest integrated graphics you can find
we are rapidly approaching a point where even turbo niggercattle gamers know that there are other games to play than <latest aaa slop>

Unfortunately, for the vast majority of people, console (more specifically PS5) is the rational choice.

if only it had games
also i've heard it compromises heavily on many things that aren't directly related to pushing maximum graphical quality (a running theme with consoles over the years)

 

[Cuckoman]

on the bright side, older and less demanding games often run just fine on the shittiest integrated graphics you can find

Older games are not just less demanding I think they are objectively better as well. Especially the writing and the stories.
I mostly play on consoles and after the PS3/X360 generation it has been downhill ever since.
Current generation I think there are less than 10 actually good games this whole generation. 10 being generous.

That is just the quality of the game themselves, barring any bugs, and ignoring the current bullshit of release broken game, fix it later IFF it sells well enough. And don't get me started on online-always or digital only bullshit. Or the millenial-writing that is supposed to pass as quality nowadays.

We are in the first generation in thousands of years where we can no longer write or create any more. We, as a species, can no longer create quality works of fiction.
I wonder how this will play out or affect society.

But I will be ok. No matter what the fat blue-haired Karen does to LanaCroft, she has no power to corrupt the physical copies of TR1/2/3 I have. Or any of my other physical games.

 

[Ferryman]

...or maybe they won't and we will always be able to find at least a few motherboards that you can turn off the checks for

I am likely in the minority here, but I really think people grossly overestimate the specs they need for their daily computing, especially when running Linux. Not that I'm one of those Ebussy 'use case?!?!? you DON'T need that' faggots, just speaking from experience. You can easily drive a T480/s in current day for 99% of typical computing tasks. If you need more powerful stuff, OEMs that resell Clevo laptops with Coreboot are the next best bet. Sure, they don't break the IME like Libreboot does, but it is better than running stock. And ever since boot guard got cracked on Skylake era machines a la the T480, my boy Francis is allegedly trying to port "many, many more boards" up to and including that era come the December release of Libreboot. That's supposed to encompass stuff like the early P-series and X-series, the former of which completely eclipses any other laptop you can currently Libreboot in specs.

Either way, there are methods of defeating silicone-level cancerware, and I certainly can't see autists like Francis giving up on their projects anytime soon. If people found a way to break boot guard once, I am confident that they can find a way to break it again.

 

[enaR]

Regarding the anime picture: Anubis is published under MIT, but their funding page (a) politely asks you not to remove the mascot for local deployment. Instead, they ask you to contact them and arrange a white-label solution:

Update relating to this shamelessly stolen from an rdrama thread. An 11 year user of lobste.rs, a hackernews style autism site, was banned for "queermisia" for this exchange.

Extremely long not-hackernews thread here (archive). If you're wondering, the logic is that it's 'queermisia' because the anime fan in question is trans.

 

[analrapist]

Older games are not just less demanding I think they are objectively better as well. Especially the writing and the stories.

Watching a dude speedrunning DW4 on my other monitor right now, and I'm marvelling at the composition. Sugiyama is one of the most talented men to compose for the NES. Low technical trickery, high putting-notes-together-pleasingly. There's so much more now to do when making music for games, I doubt we'll ever see a return. The pared back format of the early consoles enabled composers to think like composers, not producers, and as a man who adores classical composition, boy howdy does this work for me.

 

[Creative Username]

We are in the first generation in thousands of years where we can no longer write or create any more. We, as a species, can no longer create quality works of fiction.
I wonder how this will play out or affect society.

i disagree we probably have autists creating based shit it's just that nobody cares (for now)

Either way, there are methods of defeating silicone-level cancerware, and I certainly can't see autists like Francis giving up on their projects anytime soon. If people found a way to break boot guard once, I am confident that they can find a way to break it again.

should we see widespread quantum computing in our lifetimes, autists will use it to break all the firmware signatures in every computer made up until 2030

 

[meager]

Update relating to this shamelessly stolen from an rdrama thread. An 11 year user of lobste.rs, a hackernews style autism site, was banned for "queermisia" for this exchange.
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Extremely long not-hackernews thread here (archive). If you're wondering, the logic is that it's 'queermisia' because the anime fan in question is trans.

I had to look up what the fuck “queermisia” means. Unsurprisingly it’s just a synonym for “queerphobia” but why do these niggas keep making up new words?

 

[Ferryman]

We are in the first generation in thousands of years where we can no longer write or create any more. We, as a species, can no longer create quality works of fiction.
I wonder how this will play out or affect society.

t.

 

[Slav Power]

via their "Pluton" functionality in all new CPUs.

Last time I checked the big bad Pluton is just TPM with extra steps, not some omnipotent backdoor with which Microsoft can force you to use nothing but Windows 11. Besides, if you're gonna clench your arse over hardware backdoors, then you'd be using nothing but Librebooted ThinkPads with Intel CPU's made before 2008 when IME was first introduced. That has the true potential to do anything and everything with your computer without your consent, yet people only care about this next new thing that does it, but they're not sure if it does it either since they only read sensationalist headlines as their only source of information.

IIRC the last hardware security push that actually affected Linux was Secure Boot, but it was quickly alleviated. TPM and Pluton never touched Linux or your freedom to install whatever you want on your computer, and even then it's not Pluton that you want to worry about, it's IME and PSP that can do all the bad shit you think Pluton can do.

 

[enaR]

why do these niggas keep making up new words?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibboleth#Modern_use

Existing words are understood by the out-group. New words can be created that are only understood by the in-group, which helps distinguish insiders from outsiders. FWIW I got it immediately but I'm also much better at greek roots than the average person.

 

[Zeftax]

Besides, if you're gonna clench your arse over hardware backdoors, then you'd be using nothing but Librebooted ThinkPads with Intel CPU's made before 2008 when IME was first introduced.

Isn't middleton better than libreboot where it is available? (genuine question, I have no idea) I have stock bios, but want to switch to middleton in the near future for the fn-ctrl swap functionality. Does libreboot support that too? I have a T61 and a T60.

 

[Creative Username]

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every generation you see some geriatric fucker complaining about how <something that came out 2 generations ago> are corrupting the youth and ruining society

 

[teriyakiburns]

every generation you see some geriatric fucker complaining about how <something that came out 2 generations ago> are corrupting the youth and ruining society

Civilisation ended when the walkman was invented.

 

[Max Weber]

Civilisation ended when the walkman was invented.

Civilisation never began. Fire was understandable, the wheel is where we completely lost the plot.