Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[Creative Username]

tl;dr "gay discord tranny drama, no humans involved"?

worth a good chuckle though
every troon discord drama is welcome here

Open...SORES! Get it? Because it sounds like source and they cut off their dicks!

haha i'm dying here

Crossposting from dead bread:

he might have done something so incredibly based that he's not sure if it's legal...
? maybe, maybe not...

 

[Leakage Current]

It was possible and actually quite common up until Haswell or so.

Sure, but neither Intel nor AMD make low power CPUs in an easily socketable package anymore. They're all BGA and BGA sockets are clunky beasts only suitable for test use.
Even the official reference designs for testing don't come with a socket, they just tell you to solder the CPU.

E: Getting a CPU manufacturer to make a new package for you is going to be near impossible unless you somehow have insane volume and I just don't see the business case for that. Plus there's signal integrity shit with LPDDR5.

 

[Cuckoman]

All Things Linux, an Arch Linux Community spinoff Discord server for trannies too spergy for ALC, just had a tranny meltdown where staff members create a secret clique discord, fantasize about killing Kaizen (the tranny owner of the server), try to bring down the server's reputation, claim Kaizen misappropriated funds, and generally conspire to perform a troon-d'état. All of the people pictured in the document have been removed from staff and a statement was published. It's worth noting that this entire thing went down over the course of 4 days, starting on October 4 and staff being removed on October 8.

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ACHTUNG The following is a Google Docs link. Open it in a private window or use the archive (you can scroll the window right to see all the pictures). Trannies can see your Google account if you view it while logged in.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRDKdcxnk4TvXW9k7q-eWxWXYKWdmV6W-fALB-HFA6pST_2y7tIQE61MFZwSBEkOlunwM_jd4VG3Az_/pub

https://archive.is/66oZW

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Good for ATL I guess.
Let his be a lesson for all other projects and organizations on how to deal with the troons when they get unruly.

Just immediately kick them al out. No discussion, no dialogue, no meetings or action plans and no bending the knee and pandering to them.
Nope, justy kick them the fuck out and problem is gone.

 

[Creative Username]

claim Kaizen misappropriated funds

ok i missed this the first time but what the fuck
that's a fucking troon discord server. any money going to the people running it is definitely being misappropriated
they do it for free after all

 

[Slav Power]

In defense of ultra thin laptops, they're fantastic for old people who have trouble with chunky electronics.

I like decently thin and decently light laptops, like the modern 14 inch ThinkPads. Slim, but still bulky enough to be user serviceable. <1.5kg weight so it's not a complete brick. I don't need them to chase some retarded trend like smartphones do, I need them to be light so that I can carry them in my backpack with ease and hold them on my hand like a tray without getting overly tired. What I expect from a laptop is not a PC that I have to set up at a desk every time I want to use it, I expect it to be a stop-gap between my home PC and my phone.

Sure, something like the P16 Gen 3 would be cool to have as a "portable desktop", but again, that's basically a portable PC, and my use cases don't foresee that as much as they do something like a T14. I can always remote desktop to my PC with one if I need more computing power.

And yeah, 14 inches may be small, but that's the size I want from a laptop, around the size of an A4 notebook. Portable. Light. Not some massive hunk of shit that's meant to replace a desktop like those gaming laptops.

 

[Ed Special]

LGA is a nonstarter on mobile

I'm not enough of an expert to say you're wrong, but I'd like to know your reasoning for this. I know BGA is cheaper, especially at scale, but what about LGA makes it inherently incompatible with mobile devices?

 

[ILikeForwardAssists]

The old people who buy a new computer maybe once a decade? Such a huge, great market segment to force the entire market to bend the knee to.

I like the idea of

All I want from Framework is for them to bring back socketed laptop CPUs like we used to have back before around 2015. It was fucking NICE getting an HP EliteBook with an i3 and a fucked keyboard for like $50, buying an i7 to throw in it for $20, and slapping in a $10 replacement keyboard. Doubly so because a lot of those early-to-mid-2010s magnesium alloy chassis EliteBooks came with actual Radeon dGPUs. They were thick and heavy and ran hot and weren't actually all that easy to service, but dammit, I could actually swap individual components out instead of being forced to replace an entire fucking board.

Also, while we're at it, while we're having some wishful thinking, I want thin & light laptops to die so we can get proper crazy again, with full socketed desktop CPUs with full desktop CPU power draws again, like we saw briefly in the late 2000s with full-size Athlons and Phenoms that almost instantly thermal throttled to a quarter of their speed because the ABSOLUTE MAD LADS at HP and Dell thought you could dissipate 45-105w off the cooler from a 15w laptop.

Or, y'know, they could just give us a 16" laptop version with the mainboard all on one side, the graphics board all on the other, a bridge between them, and give us a total of six USB-C block dingus ends, and then we could actually fully spec out and customize laptops rather than being stuck with whatever junk iGP Incel or AMD stick you with.

Pentalobe is five-pointed, dingus. You're thinking Torx.

I do like the idea of a laptop that you can carry with you or treat as a small terminal that you can just place anywhere. At that point it's a micro PC.
Helped my brother last november help build his first PC (A first for me to) and for that he gifted me a Lenovo Legion laptop that I've meticulously taken care of, and typing on this very forum as of now.
Before hand, I had an HP Envy x360 with an i7-6560U and the thing fucking chugged on the most basic shit. Hinge completely fell out and it would be more expensive to repair the machine than to just outright buy a new one. So going from 25fps to 150fps on games and having better quality is nice.
My biggest upset was the soldered ram and the nightmare it would take to actually disassemble it down to the keyboard. I'm looking at that framework right now, simply because I don't have the space for a full-sized PC setup. I'm sure I could if I really thought about it, but a laptop is a real nice alternative

 

[Leakage Current]

I'm not enough of an expert to say you're wrong, but I'd like to know your reasoning for this. I know BGA is cheaper, especially at scale, but what about LGA makes it inherently incompatible with mobile devices?

Nothing per se. The new RAM module format (CIMM?) is basically LGA as well. If anything, LGA requires less z-space than PGA.

 

[Harvey Danger]

ok i missed this the first time but what the fuck
that's a fucking troon discord server. any money going to the people running it is definitely being misappropriated
they do it for free after all

They claim to be running 10 VPSes for various things, at a cost of $154/month. (On top of whatever Discord costs.)

Spoiler: screenshots and full text

The second point to be cleared is the following statement by ILOVECANADA (aka Base).

• “Where do you think all the donations are going? To our 20 different overpriced VPSs?”

This claim is entirely false and over dramatic. As of the 12th of October 2025, ATL has never had more than 10 VPS’s at once. For the longest time, we only had one dedicated server and 3 VPS each with specialist purposes. After the recent DDoS attacks in August 2025, we decided it was best to rebuild our infrastructure with a focus on separation of concerns and isolation of each individual group of services to maximise integrity, availability and reliability with an entirely new approach to security, networking and administration. You can learn more about our infrastructure changes on our blog post here.

For further transparency, all VPS’s are rented from Hetzner Cloud and nearly all VPS are at the minimum or second minimum tiered plan in terms of billing and are strictly only scaled to have the resources they need to minimise the cost per month. As it currently stands we have 10 machines, with one in the process of being deprecated, they are listed below with a short summary of its purpose. As of the 12th of October 2025, we have the following machines, and as per the financial statements above it costs $154.44 a month with the “mothership” being the largest expense. Once we deprecate the “mothership” we expect expenses to drop to roughly $90 a month.

1. Dedicated VPS (aka “Mothership”), this server is in the process of being deprecated by EOY. It only hosts mail.atl.tools and is used for high traffic operations with our ISO archive project.
2. atl-dev-tux, this is a low resource VPS in the ashburn area solely running our self-hosted in house discord bot “Tux”. It is the only server in that region to improve latency to Discord’s API.
3. atl-network-bastion, this is another low resource VPS which serves as a secure gateway for our SSH access to our machines, this was a part of our DDoS response to ensure maximum availability.
4. atl-tools, this machine hosts our set of self-hosted tools from atl.tools, excluding mail. We hope to expand the offered services on this machine in the coming months and we welcome suggestions.
5. atl-dev, this machine hosts some of our inhouse projects such as our stats backend for stats.atl.dev and our eventual goal is to use it to provide a shared resource for hosting community run projects.
6. atl-services, this machine hosts essential infrastructure such as are in progress metrics stack as well as other discord bots such as TuxGPT and our personal shortlink system atl.sh
7. atl-chat, this machine is being used to host our IRC and XMPP bridges and servers which are in active development, you can see more progress on GitHub: XMPP & IRC
8. atl-wiki, this machine hosts our wiki, atl.wiki, along with all the supplementary services such as Valkey, its Discord bot and OAUTH backend.
9. atl-wiki-db, to separate concerns and maximise availability and integrity the wiki’s database is run on a separate machine, this machine is low resource due to its minimal overhead.
10. atl-sandbox, a low resource VPS which is used as a testing environment for all our projects before we bring them live.

We hope in the future we can share more about our infrastructure to the community to improve our transparency behind it. We always try our best to minimise expenses but in our aims of ensuring the maximum integrity and availability of our resources

I don't know if the jannies get paid too, but one of the "misinformation" points was that an outside friend of the head admin got paid to do some assistant work. Head admin claims they were paid out of personal funds, not organization funds. I also don't know wtf they're doing with 10 staff (5 fired, 5 remaining), but no one ever accused trannies of being efficient.

Good for ATL I guess.
Let his be a lesson for all other projects and organizations on how to deal with the troons when they get unruly.

But the remaining staff are troons too.
It's troons all the way down.
(Many such cases.)

 

[Mikoyan]

Nothing per se. The new RAM module format (CIMM?) is basically LGA as well. If anything, LGA requires less z-space than PGA.

CAMM.

 

[Kendall Motor Oil]

that would be more likely if there were a bunch of useful yet extremely niche modules that make the configurability worth the complexity and space

GPD has a module for their one laptop that turns the laptop into a KVM.

They claim to be running 10 VPSes for various things, at a cost of $154/month.

That setup is so excessive.

 

[Ed Special]

I do like the idea of a laptop that you can carry with you or treat as a small terminal that you can just place anywhere. At that point it's a micro PC.
Helped my brother last november help build his first PC (A first for me to) and for that he gifted me a Lenovo Legion laptop that I've meticulously taken care of, and typing on this very forum as of now.
Before hand, I had an HP Envy x360 with an i7-6560U and the thing fucking chugged on the most basic shit. Hinge completely fell out and it would be more expensive to repair the machine than to just outright buy a new one. So going from 25fps to 150fps on games and having better quality is nice.
My biggest upset was the soldered ram and the nightmare it would take to actually disassemble it down to the keyboard. I'm looking at that framework right now, simply because I don't have the space for a full-sized PC setup. I'm sure I could if I really thought about it, but a laptop is a real nice alternative

I really, really wish AMD could be fucked to implement Thunderbolt 3 in their mobile CPUs. That you can go out and buy a Thunderbolt 3 or Thunderbolt 4-capable Intel laptop with a reasonably recent i5 or i7, hook it up to a desktop GPU in a dock through Thunderbolt for gaming at home, and not sacrifice gaming FPS at home or battery life on the go on account of being stuck with a mobile GPU chipset is wild to me, and while Thunderbolt 4 is proprietary to Intel for now, I believe 3 has been opensourced and should be both backwards- and forwards-compatible. Genuinely, imagine being able to just hook your Ryzen 7 or Ryzen 9 AMD laptop with AMD integrated graphics up to a full fat 9070XT and have it Just Workusing the same Adrenalin driver set.

 

[Angie Wormwood]

I do like the idea of a laptop that you can carry with you or treat as a small terminal that you can just place anywhere. At that point it's a micro PC.

It's a good idea, but terrible to implement. Basically you need a new standard for motherboards since even MicroITX would be too big for a laptop. With that you'd need to standardize where the connectors would be, or have a standard set in the side with an expandable front so you would have ports on both sides and/or the back. And then you'd need to stick to DDR4 SODIMMs which is going to kneecap performance, unless you can find the room for DDR5 SODIMMs. And you'd probably be stuck with NVME or eMMC drives, the latter of which decreases your serviceability. Plus battery hookups. And then you'd have to have a standard for cooling the CPU and/or GPU -- look at a T480 teardown to see how heat pipes and fans work on a fairly recent laptop.

The moment you move away from SOC, you get a lot of flexibility. But SOC gives you low power consumption, lower heat generation, and a much smaller form factor.

 

[Ed Special]

eMMC drives, the latter of which decreases your serviceability

I've encountered far more eMMC drives on M.2 B-key or B+M key daughterboards than soldered to the mainboard. Also, just a reminder, M.2 SATA SSDs, which use B+M key, are fairly commonplace, and the host device can be configured to accept both M.2 SATA and M.2 NVMe through the same ports with no noticeable performance losses for either.

Now, then, let's take a break from the regularly-scheduled hardware sperging to see how systemd is doing.



... Ah. [A] We've got some schizo tranny slav trying to lock out Omarchy, Ladybird, and Hyprland users from systemd under the usual grounds of "safety and security", and it also checks for DHH's public key. Looks like it actually got rejected, which is kind of surprising given how gigapozzed the Open Sores community is. Can someone with a Trannyhub account check what those hidden "off-topic" comments say?

 

[Don Yagon]

Can someone with a Trannyhub account check what those hidden "off-topic" comments say?

Just a couple autists entertaining the author with four days old account.

Looks like it actually got rejected, which is kind of surprising given how gigapozzed the Open Sores community is

Despite all the talk about evil systemd, it just targets enterprise like most other non-desktop redhatware. It's not some noname minecraft launcher or tiling WM maintained by a single tranny, this kind of shit won't fly there.

 

[Atlas Sneezed]

but I'd like to know your reasoning for this

I was tired and I miswrote. What I meant was "current LGA sockets on mobile are a nonstarter". Hence the engineering mentioned later and why I said even current T CPUs couldn't work. You can do LGA on mobile, CAMM2 is an example.

Sorry for the confusion.

We've got some schizo tranny slav trying to lock out Omarchy, Ladybird, and Hyprland users from systemd under the usual grounds of "safety and security", and it also checks for DHH's public key

Fuck they're inching ever closer to their Charlie Kirk moment aren't they? This is why I'm afraid of flashing my phone to something like Graphene, because every project has enough schizos to do shit like this and there will come a day when they'll get away with it.

 

[Creative Username]

Despite all the talk about evil systemd, it just targets enterprise like most other non-desktop redhatware. It's not some noname minecraft launcher or tiling WM maintained by a single tranny, this kind of shit won't fly there.

some people here don't realize this because they're fucking retarded, but including malicious functionality in your software is still a big fucking nono regardless of who it's against and is widely taken extremely seriously
and by "taken seriously", i mean the tranny is run out of the repo on a fucking rail and nobody trusts them with commit access to anything important ever again

nobody will ever accept a patch like this into something as important as systemd, and if they did, it would never go out to users. every single distribution would light the fuck up and refuse to package the version with malicious functionality (or package it with a build script that runs and cuts out the malware) and a fork would be started that every distribution would switch to in a heartbeat

This is why I'm afraid of flashing my phone to something like Graphene, because every project has enough schizos to do shit like this and there will come a day when they'll get away with it.

"i will not use free software because of a potential supply chain attack so i will continue using the proprietary software that is documented and well-known to abuse and exploit me every day"
really good fucking logic there
not to mention that most proprietary software includes a lot of open source bullshit. it gets worse because they never include good shit like gnu software, they mostly include the most retarded troonware in existence

daniel micay is a well-known schizo though so perhaps use one of the other high quality roms out there if you don't like him

 

[analrapist]

they never include good shit like gnu software, they mostly include the most retarded troonware in existence

And what is to blame here? Permissive cuck licenses that let corporations be assholes.

 

[Betonhaus]

some people here don't realize this because they're fucking retarded, but including malicious functionality in your software is still a big fucking nono regardless of who it's against and is widely taken extremely seriously
and by "taken seriously", i mean the tranny is run out of the repo on a fucking rail and nobody trusts them with commit access to anything important ever again

Which is probably why they created a sock account which has the only activity of making the pull request

 

[Leakage Current]

I really, really wish AMD could be fucked to implement Thunderbolt 3 in their mobile CPUs. That you can go out and buy a Thunderbolt 3 or Thunderbolt 4-capable Intel laptop with a reasonably recent i5 or i7, hook it up to a desktop GPU in a dock through Thunderbolt for gaming at home, and not sacrifice gaming FPS at home or battery life on the go on account of being stuck with a mobile GPU chipset is wild to me, and while Thunderbolt 4 is proprietary to Intel for now, I believe 3 has been opensourced and should be both backwards- and forwards-compatible. Genuinely, imagine being able to just hook your Ryzen 7 or Ryzen 9 AMD laptop with AMD integrated graphics up to a full fat 9070XT and have it Just Workusing the same Adrenalin driver set.

USB4 is implemented on the latest mobile/embedded CPUs which is functionally identical.