Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[Zeftax]

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This is genuinely enlightening, I only know one apple user, and he complained a few years back about his banking app suddenly not working (I think he uses some kind of iPhone 6).

I have to say, I personally would not use an iPhone. I did ask why he did, and they supposedly have very good cameras, but for me it is simply too locked down. But that is an individual preference and I love the fact that we can all choose different stuff.

I would never make any kind of judgement on him, or anyone, based on a phone brand choice, so seeing it being so different with other people is really expanding my horizons on just how different humans are - KF has done a lot of that for me, mostly in a bad way though.

PL here but I got into social media at an old age (for my generation anyway, zoomer) when my classmates basically forced me to make a facebook account at around 13 or 14 years old (I know, horrifying). I tried twitter, reddit, and instagram since then. I never really got the point of them. Only reddit seemed kind of good (and discord, if you take it as social media, I think I left before it got completely enshittified though), but even that got pretty shit over the years. The first major sign I noticed was the banning, and subsequent memoryholing of r/waterniggas in favour of r/aquahomies for no apparent reason other than the fact that the former had the word "niggas" in its name, the sub was literally just about drinking water being preferable to drinking soda...

Oh and that's another thing, that is now completely unrelated to the topic at hand, but I sometimes saw people bragging about drinking (presumably water) like it was an achivement. Even saw a few "celebratory" bottles at the supermarket when I used do go there more often. What the hell is that? Do people genuinely have such small aspirations that "drinking 3l of water today" is an achivement? Not to mention the people who are afraid to call someone over the phone and take "speaking to someone" as an achivement.

Spoiler: The most retarded water bottle you're ever gonna see

Like what am I gonna do? Die of dehydration??

fr no cap

fr fr no cap

Torx, not pentalobe, which do suck. They cam out less than Philips other than that, yeah, agree.

Compared to JIS cross style there's really little point but that's a Jap thing.

I like torx, I agree that there is not much advantage over the japanese cross screw, but trying to differentiate between a philips and the jap is infuriating enough to just prefer a torx.
Also another unrelated issue, I need to change a few seals on an old soda bottle I found, and it has a 13mm flathead screw. I couldn't find such a big screwdriver anywhere, so I tried scissors - they slip off, I tried a folded tin can - bends, now I'm trying a normal flathead screwdriver but only on one side and forcing it to turn. It is hard and I slipped off a few times and left a few ridges in the thread, I hope it's fine. I hate this, and hate the fact I don't have access to metal cutting equipment to just make a quick screwdriver for this.

philips head

It does like to jump out a bit too much for my taste (I've heard that they were designed for that, but not sure).

Pure evil niggardry.

Now that is evil, normal torx I like due to the increased surface and more control, forcing a new design just to get people to not repair your shit is bad.

But I've heard people a few years ago say that using torx to build (buildings) is safer because thieves are less likely to have torx screw heads in their toolkits, so I guess everything was new once.

 

[Mikoyan]

I think my absolute least favorite was when Compaq came up with their own unique version of Torx and pentalobe that also had a dimple in the screw head so you literally had to have a full set of their bullshit screws to do anything at all with their laptops because the actual screws had a prong that would block any non-dimpled screw head.

Pure evil niggardry.

That's now just 'security Torx' and you can get a full set for a fiver at Harbor Freight which is nice.

Didn't Compaq just love those really awful combo torx/flathead ones too?

 

[The Real Slim Shady]

no, for every so many soy consoomers you see, there is also a zoomer who is thinkpadpilled

Sadly 3/4 of them wear programmer socks and they think they are lesbian or femboy or whatever the fuck the porn addiction results in. It's a true stereotype, just like with the BMW e36 first/second owner memes.

Didn't Compaq just love those really awful combo torx/flathead ones too?

They had these but it was nice because you could unscrew them with a flathead driver if you didnt have a torx at hand.

 

[Fabio Socialist]

How could we survive without Thom Holwerda weighing in? Like Drew DeVault, he can tell you absolutely and perfectly exactly what is fascism.

https://www.osnews.com/story/143520/in-bizarre-move-framework-embraces-deeply-extremist-views/

I still sincerely hope that all of this is just a massive breakdown of PR and common sense at Framework and its CEO, but since they’ve already doubled-down, I’m not holding my breath. This whole thing is going to haunt them, especially since I’m fairly sure a huge chunk of their community and users – who are buying into hardware that is, in truth, overpriced – are not even remotely aligned with such extremist views.

Thom Holwerda wants the developer of Hyprland to be murdered, he wants the creator of Omarchy to be murdered, he wants the creator of the independent open source web browser Ladybird to be murdered, and he wants everyone who works at Frame.work to be murdered. Because they're fascists. And you don't tolerate fascism. You stamp it out, by any means necessary. Which means exactly what it says on the label.

 

[Moist Boys]

How could we survive without Thom Holwerda weighing in? Like Drew DeVault, he can tell you absolutely and perfectly exactly what is fascism.

https://www.osnews.com/story/143520/in-bizarre-move-framework-embraces-deeply-extremist-views/

Thom Holwerda wants the developer of Hyprland to be murdered, he wants the creator of Omarchy to be murdered, he wants the creator of the independent open source web browser Ladybird to be murdered, and he wants everyone who works at Frame.work to be murdered. Because they're fascists. And you don't tolerate fascism. You stamp it out, by any means necessary. Which means exactly what it says on the label.

Thom Holwerda is an trantifa faggot. I stopped reading that site out of disgust for his personal views.

 

[Creative Username]

Sadly 3/4 of them wear programmer socks and they think they are lesbian or femboy or whatever the fuck the porn addiction results in. It's a true stereotype, just like with the BMW e36 first/second owner memes.

i said it already but i don't really give a fuck as long as they hate the true enemy
the 1/4th that don't are obviously the true future (no discord at all. discord is proprietary software cloudshit owned 70/30 by tencent and pedophiles) but the others can be helpful in many cases

Because they're fascists. And you don't tolerate fascism. You stamp it out, by any means necessary.

my hobby: sed

Because they're Jews. And you don't tolerate Judaism. You stamp it out, by any means necessary.

see? it sounds exactly like something adolf hitler would say
do this to whatever leftist antifa drivel you see and you'll be rolling in cheap laughs in no time

 

[Cubanodun]

If you want to snatch a troon jannie mod position from Framework now you can, i dont know why these mongoloids believe they can go on strike when they do it for free

 

[Harvey Danger]

How could we survive without Thom Holwerda weighing in?

I know he's quoting someone else, but still, who the hell writes like this?

If you know a little bit about PR in social media space, you might note that, right out of the gate, a project by a vocal white nationalist known for splitting communities by their mere presence, is not a great highlight choice for an overtly non-left-right-political company like Framework. Does it get worse from here? Sadly, it does.

↫ Arya Bread Crumbs

Apparently being an abomination to nature requires you to abominate everything else, including basic English structure. I don't know if this counts as a proper phonebooking, since it's all out in the open and helpfully linked by himself, but I clicked through it all so you may as well have it. (edited to add archives)


Arsenij Pichugin / Arya Voronova / CRImier / aryafairywren / Arya Bread Crumbs

Arya Bread Crumbs (linktree / archive) turns out to be a troon, real name Arsenij Pichugin (archive), 29 years old from Latvia. No excuses given for ESL, because Arsenij has been posting about hardware for over a decade with much better English, even writing as a "tech journalist". He was the guy behind the ZeroPhone project, an open source Raspberry Pi based Linux phone that seems more proof of concept than real product. Some units were hand-assembled, but it doesn't look like the kits actually launched. It was abandoned in 2019 while trying to add 3G and a case.

No picture that I can confirm, but here is a hand dox from his ZeroPhone pitches.


At some point after 2019 Arsenij renamed himself Arya Voronova and trooned out. I suspect it was 2022 because that's when he cut over to a lot of new social media spaces, however he seems to have fallen off the radar after ZeroPhone.

Spoiler: details and links

link / archive


He has a BlueSky bio declaring himself to be "she/they mafia", and a tranny flag on Mastodon.



He is still contributing to ZeroPhone libraries on Github (using his old username CRImier) but I can't find any discussion of it past 2019. Its wiki was taken over by a domain scalper, and its Twitter account nuked. A post (a) on Mastodon suggests he burned out over it.



Good for him getting back into it, I guess. His current blog has hardware related posts a few times a year. He used to stream board assembly on Twitch, but the channel is deleted. I haven't checked his reddit because fuck reddit.

His main presence these days is as a prolific Hackaday writer under Arya Voronova, with 495 articles to his name. It's a mix of niche hardware stories, python libraries for small boards (including his own), and generic pop journalism for FOSS events and news. He seems competent enough in his niche, and keeps the politics to reposts on Bsky and Mastodon.

He also did some hardware dev work with Framework components (see below), but I didn't check what exactly that might be.

TL;DR nothing interesting. Some talent and passion for FOSS hardware, couldn't launch his product, slowed down after he trooned out, politics are typical lefty brain rot.

So why was he writing about Framework? (a) Because he was "doing third-party hardware development" in the Framework community, and "helping others' projects in the same vein".

A little context about my involvement - I’ve been in the Framework community since 2022, doing third-party hardware development and helping others’ projects in the same vein. I’ve also been using a Framework since then, recently upgraded to an AMD board from the 11th gen offering. In general, I’ve been an advocate for Framework’s laptops and mission, in both professional and private circles, given my Framework to others for test-drives, contributed to documentation, and have been the cause for multiple people getting their own Framework laptops.

As of end of 2023, I’ve had to shutter my general electronics work, and Framework third-party hardware dev, due to burnout exacerbated by health issues. Thankfully, that seems to be at least partially behind me, and I was looking forward to rejoining the community in full force. This expectation is one of the most disappointing things for me about the current situation.

Yeah, I wonder what health issues Arsenij/Arya could possibly be having, 1-2 years into trooning out?

Oh well, doesn't matter, even if he wanted to rejoin FOSS dev again, he just doesn't like the hecking Nazi bar it's become. How does he know it's all Nazis? Because of a ton of Discord chatter (of course). Anyway, nobody in FOSS has the spoons to deal with chuds, which is why FOSS naturally becomes a left-leaning hugbox where rightoids politely censor themselves.

This is why you won’t see any socially-recognizable degree of far-right thought expressed openly in any of the big open-source communities; far-right people are present, but they know their views to be sufficiently repulsive to people around them, and people know to clamp down instinctively on this and other anti-social behaviours. It’s not a great existence for people who need to hide their views, sure, and it can lead to further polarization in some cases, but you genuinely can’t blame other people for being cautious of verifiably corrosive behaviour. It’s a mechanism of social change that does verifiably work a lot of the time, and it helps people focus on the tech rather than the anti-social nonsense someone decided to start talking about.

And that's a good thing, bigot.

 

[Cherenkovblue]

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If you want to snatch a troon jannie mod position from Framework now you can, i dont know why these mongoloids believe they can go on strike when they do it for free

The jeets in charge have the opportunity to do the funniest thing possible... and train an AI against their actions so they can all be replaced by an automoderator.

Fucking do it, Jeet.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

Arsenij Pichugin / Arya Voronova / CRImier / Arya Fairy Wren / Arya Bread Crumbs

Saar, that's what's called the brimful of Arya(n), yes. Except the troon behaviour is very jewish and definitely not Aryan.

Sorry, couldn't resist to jape about a jeet wanting to hit on a troon.

 

[mentally retarded user]

GNOMEtrannies are having a meltdown because The Millennium of the Linux Desktop will be defined by Hyprland and KDE Plasma.

 

[Creative Username]

GNOMEtrannies are having a meltdown because The Millennium of the Linux Desktop will be defined by hyprland and KDE Plasma.

PICK ONE:

• difficult-to-configure default setup (that can be easily fixed with the "unfuck it" plugin)
• break plugin support (that nobody will care about if you make it easy to configure)

gnome picked both and disqualified themselves in the last six inches of the race
a big shame, because gtk is a far more based widget toolkit than qt (apps have to be written in c++ and it needs a fucking preprocessor for signal/slot bullshit? really?)

 

[mentally retarded user]

PICK ONE:

• difficult-to-configure default setup (that can be easily fixed with the "unfuck it" plugin)
• break plugin support (that nobody will care about if you make it easy to configure)

gnome picked both and disqualified themselves in the last six inches of the race
a big shame, because gtk is a far more based widget toolkit than qt (apps have to be written in c++ and it needs a fucking preprocessor for signal/slot bullshit? really?)

GNOME is following the Microsoft strategy of ruining their own software, until everyone leaves, with retarded "work" like this:
https://archive.ph/IWYBS ("Making GNOME’s GdkPixbuf Image Loading Safer")

Some random reactions:
https://archive.ph/ypaSC (Thread on Arch Linux forums: "Bubblewrap everywhere")

 

[Creative Username]

GNOME is doing the Microsoft strategy of ruining their own software, until everyone leaves, with retarded "work" like this:
https://archive.ph/IWYBS ("Making GNOME’s GdkPixbuf Image Loading Safer")

Some random reactions:
https://archive.ph/ypaSC (Thread on Arch Linux forums: "Bubblewrap everywhere")
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what's so wrong with glycin? i noticed that it existed and went "huh that's neat they have started actually sandboxing image loading processes now"
yes it's retarded and slightly overengineered, but that's just because of unix's sell-by date being back in 1993 or so

oh it's a fucking 20mb (HOW?) lump of rust that's why
bwrap itself (glycin dependency that does most of the fucking work) is less than 100k
process sandboxing i/o is quite a good idea, but come the fuck on
there's no way that 20mb of random dependencies is more secure than the ~2000 lines of c you would need to implement the core logic in this library

anyway it seems like people fucking hate it (i can see why)
now who actually has the balls to fork critical parts of the gnu desktop infrastructure and restore it to its former glory?

edit: i looked at the cargo.lock file in master. it is over 3000 lines long. you cannot hate rust programmers enough

 

[mentally retarded user]

what's so wrong with glycin? i noticed that it existed and went "huh that's neat they have started actually sandboxing image loading processes now"
yes it's retarded and slightly overengineered, but that's just because of unix's sell-by date being back in 1993 or so

oh it's a fucking 20mb (HOW?) lump of rust that's why
bwrap itself (glycin dependency that does most of the fucking work) is less than 100k
process sandboxing i/o is quite a good idea, but come the fuck on
there's no way that 20mb of random dependencies is more secure than the ~2000 lines of c you would need to implement the core logic in this library

anyway it seems like people fucking hate it (i can see why)
now who actually has the balls to fork critical parts of the gnu desktop infrastructure and restore it to its former glory?

It's just jank as fuck, it's Rust but uses bubblewrap, a C program, to sandbox. So, Usecase for Rust?
He fucked up the glycin implementation in GdkPixbuf so you would get hundreds of "bwrap..." processes that wouldn't close.


It's just a lot of retarded "solutions" to "store image data as linear buffers in memory"

 

[Creative Username]

It's just jank as fuck, it's Rust but uses bubblewrap, a C program, to sandbox. So, Usecase for Rust?

yes it's fucking comical you would think they would use c, the language used both above and below this software in the stack
c also happens to be the language that gnome is inherently based around
i guess gobject no longer exists. its careful gnu/gemerald structure (it has a very specific and purposeful design, for a grand plan that was never fully realized) has been forgotten almost entirely

He fucked up the glycin implementation in GdkPixbuf so you would get hundreds of "bwrap..." processes that wouldn't close.

how long until a ton of rustards fail at basic input sanitation or something and cause huge security vulnerabilities because they love depending on things they don't fully understand and being sloppy as fuck because they think their language is "safe" because the compiler ensures only against a couple basic classes of defects?
the only way to write "safe" code is to be able to fit all of it on a reasonably sized desk when printed on paper in 12 pt font and quadruple check every line and branch before subjecting it to extensive fuzz testing
then you will get fucked over by a processor bug anyway because those retards can't do the above with their vhdl either

gnu needs to take back the gnome project tbh. i never see random trannies introducing rust for the sake of introducing rust (in fact, i saw a gnu-adjacent person start a project for eventual inclusion into gnu software and he specifically didn't use rust because he knew it would cause toolchain hell)

 

[Don Yagon]

what fucking advantage do pentalobe niggerhell screws have over the humble philips head (god's chosen screw head)

Jew screws.

 

[Ed Special]

All I want from Framework is for them to bring back socketed laptop CPUs like we used to have back before around 2015. It was fucking NICE getting an HP EliteBook with an i3 and a fucked keyboard for like $50, buying an i7 to throw in it for $20, and slapping in a $10 replacement keyboard. Doubly so because a lot of those early-to-mid-2010s magnesium alloy chassis EliteBooks came with actual Radeon dGPUs. They were thick and heavy and ran hot and weren't actually all that easy to service, but dammit, I could actually swap individual components out instead of being forced to replace an entire fucking board.

Also, while we're at it, while we're having some wishful thinking, I want thin & light laptops to die so we can get proper crazy again, with full socketed desktop CPUs with full desktop CPU power draws again, like we saw briefly in the late 2000s with full-size Athlons and Phenoms that almost instantly thermal throttled to a quarter of their speed because the ABSOLUTE MAD LADS at HP and Dell thought you could dissipate 45-105w off the cooler from a 15w laptop.

Or, y'know, they could just give us a 16" laptop version with the mainboard all on one side, the graphics board all on the other, a bridge between them, and give us a total of six USB-C block dingus ends, and then we could actually fully spec out and customize laptops rather than being stuck with whatever junk iGP Incel or AMD stick you with.

Jew screws.
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Pentalobe is five-pointed, dingus. You're thinking Torx.

 

[Creative Username]

I want thin & light laptops to die

seriously why do they need to be half an inch thick and mildly unwieldy instead of being an inch thick and moderately unwieldy and actually having good thermals

Pentalobe is five-pointed, dingus. You're thinking Torx.

funny thing but i was the retard who originally confused a torx for a pentalobe

 

[残念。]

All I want from Framework is for them to bring back socketed laptop CPUs like we used to have back before around 2015. It was fucking NICE getting an HP EliteBook with an i3 and a fucked keyboard for like $50, buying an i7 to throw in it for $20, and slapping in a $10 replacement keyboard. Doubly so because a lot of those early-to-mid-2010s magnesium alloy chassis EliteBooks came with actual Radeon dGPUs. They were thick and heavy and ran hot and weren't actually all that easy to service, but dammit, I could actually swap individual components out instead of being forced to replace an entire fucking board.

Also, while we're at it, while we're having some wishful thinking, I want thin & light laptops to die so we can get proper crazy again, with full socketed desktop CPUs with full desktop CPU power draws again, like we saw briefly in the late 2000s with full-size Athlons and Phenoms that almost instantly thermal throttled to a quarter of their speed because the ABSOLUTE MAD LADS at HP and Dell thought you could dissipate 45-105w off the cooler from a 15w laptop.

Oh yeah let me swap out my aging, slow overheating cpu with a faster one on that same socket that's likely on the same node so that it won't run faster due to thermal throttling, but at least it has a bigger number on the ihs.