Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[PaiZuri]

Seems donations to the FreeBSD Foundation is drying up. Any ideas why?
https://www.reddit.com/r/freebsd/comments/93u26e/seems_donations_to_the_freebsd_foundation_is/

I just looked up the financials of the FreeBSD Foundation.

In 2017 they had a fundraising goal of $1.25m. They didn't meet that goal - they hit a bit below 1.1m.

Still, in the first quarter of 2017, they managed to get 425K in contributions: https://web.archive.org/web/2018080...ntent/uploads/2015/12/2017-Q1-Profit-Loss.pdf

Compare this to first quarter 2018. Only 189K in contributions: https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/2018-03-31_Q1_Profit___Loss.pdf

We're 7 months into 2018. According to the counter on their website, they have currently have received about 303K in contributions. That's less than they managed to secure in the first three months of 2017!

In 2016 they managed to obtain 1.54m in contributions - well above the 1.25m target that year as well.

Does anybody have an idea why contributions seems to be drying up?

Has the accounting practice simply changed?

Do you think the FreeBSD Foundation will reach the target this year?

Absolutely shocking news for FreeBSD. How could anyone see this happening?

Hard to give an exact amount but it looks like donations have dropped roughly in half in 2018 compared to 2017. And FreeBSD didn't even hit their 2017 target numbers.

We are watching an open source operating system take a dirtnap in realtime.

The FreeBSD self-destruction is amazing to follow:

• Talentless and vile SJW harasser Randi Harper is Whiteknighted by creepy Colin Percival into the FreeBSD project
• Harper spends her time combing through project communications and social media for wrongthink
• Harper finds a target for harassment on the project and starts REEEEEEing
• Harper makes such a complete ass out of herself she gets kicked out of the project
• Harper and her Whiteknight Percival fume and plot behind the scenes to replace the FreeBSD Code of Conduct with an ideological weapon so SJW wackjobs like Harper can attack their ideological enemies without suffering any repercussions
• Creepy nutcase Beeno Rice who is supposed to be head of FreeBSD security works with Percival to secretly ram their toxic Code of Conduct down the throats of the FreeBSD community
  
• Rice is so incompetent at managing FreeBSD security an engineer is forced to fork the project with HardendBSD to fix the crap Rice is unable to because he spends his time REEEEEing on social media
  
• The toxic SJW Code of Conduct is rammed down the FreeBDSD community's throats
• Many long time key developers leave.
• Everyone warns that this hijacking of the project by toxic SJWs is going to destroy the project
• The toxic FreeBSD SJWs REEEEEE in anger and call everyone alt-right,neo-nazi,trumpster,manbabies who just want to harass teh wymens.
• FreeBSD's two key technologies missing in Linux, ZFS and DTrace, are ported to Linux
• FreeBSD is left with no unique tech selling point
• Warner Losh harasses a developer of another OS giving a talk on security which everyone sees and is horrified by. Many people say the toxic behavior confirms what everyone says about the FreeBSD Core members
• Losh is, wait for it...., put in charge of the FreeBSD Code of Conduct. LOL
• More than halfway through 2018, FreeBSD donations are down by roughly half
• No one is shocked

 

[uncleShitHeel]

Even when they do, a lot of them don't understand how people work. Linus designed Git and it's nuts to think he's that competent. Git is top dog but there were competitors back then. The guys who made Subversion have no clue. They gave a talk about the "Myth of the Genius Programmer" as a swing at Linus' talk about Git. The guys who made Subversion would have think genius is a myth.

You can watch this if you want to grind your teeth. Even neutral bloggers saw the problems. http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/3342 (https://archive.is/kpycC)



Nope, nobody will ever take advantage of this. Nobody will rant about the work of others or use it to push vendettas while doing nothing. fftopic:but what happened to Apache? Their Apache Foundation projects, like Subversion, haven't gained traction and Apache is losing ground to nginx.

If anyone thought the bold part sounds like FreeBSD's CoC, congrats on making the connection. They use Subversion.

I'm currently working at a site that is migrating from SVN to git. About fucking time.

 

[AnOminous]

>when Randi Harper being involved is the least 'problematic' thing about FreeBSD.

 

[uncleShitHeel]

Seems donations to the FreeBSD Foundation is drying up. Any ideas why?
https://www.reddit.com/r/freebsd/comments/93u26e/seems_donations_to_the_freebsd_foundation_is/


Absolutely shocking news for FreeBSD. How could anyone see this happening?

Hard to give an exact amount but it looks like donations have dropped roughly in half in 2018 compared to 2017. And FreeBSD didn't even hit their 2017 target numbers.

We are watching an open source operating system take a dirtnap in realtime.

That Reddit thread is glorious. Like any Reddit echo chamber a lot of them are too far up their own asses to even realise that FreeBSD is fucked.

 

[PaiZuri]

That Reddit thread is glorious. Like any Reddit echo chamber a lot of them are too far up their own asses to even realise that FreeBSD is fucked.

And that is one thread that didn't get censored but only locked for wrongthink. Hard to tell how many but there were quite a few other threads that were deleted that were talking about how FreeBSD is fucked and large numbers of long time posters and FreeBSD users agreed.

What is utterly bizarre is there seems to be some wacky belief by the rapidly dwindling FreeBSD SJWs and Whiteknights that they are valiantly fighting some grand war against Trump. Every poster is frantically having their complete post history combed through for evidence of wrongthink and possible Trump support.

For years I had always heard about the infamous FreeBSD forum mods scaring away any and all who wanted to start using FreeBSD with their petty forum mod tyrant acts. But I can't imagine what it must be like to be someone who needs to setup some simple server wandering into these FreeBSD forums and getting hit in the face with the pure lunacy of these cult type deadenders.

 

[superscript]

What is utterly bizarre is there seems to be some wacky belief by the rapidly dwindling FreeBSD SJWs and Whiteknights that they are valiantly fighting some grand war against Trump.

Because that's what they think. They're not losing developers and users. They're kicking out Nazis! If their project burns, that's just damage in the war since it's like they're the Resistance in WWII. #RightSideofHistory

 

[AnOminous]

Because that's what they think. They're not losing developers and users. They're kicking out Nazis! If their project burns, that's just damage in the war since it's like they're the Resistance in WWII. #RightSideofHistory

So Hitler wasn't even about killing Jews, his real goal was taking over FreeBSD.

 

[CrunkLord420]

 

[AnOminous]

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Do these people even know what "bug" means?

For years I had always heard about the infamous FreeBSD forum mods scaring away any and all who wanted to start using FreeBSD with their petty forum mod tyrant acts.

Yeah, but until a few years ago, their aggression was mostly OS-related bigotry. The chimpouts were about software philosophy, not weird, dumb troon shit. While it was autistic as hell it's on some level reasonable to draw lines in the sand and have obsessions with your preferences for software philosophy on a software project.

Troons have just fucking nothing to do with any of this. Nobody cares or should care.

 

[altkiwi01]

So one of our favorites is back at it again. Coralina Ada sperged out on twitter this afternoon about the tech community ignoring her and not giving "minorities" a voice. Apparently ignoring politics is a privilege, and "creating the most used code of conduct" is worth more recognition despite being an absolutely horrible person to work with (we can see this from her firing at Github) and using her position to harass, bully and intimidate people she dislikes.

For those unaware, Coralina Ada is the lovely individual that invented the code of conduct. She has spent the last few years trying to push this onto the software community, often blackmailing open source projects that don't conform to her views, and joining projects in order to implement said code of conduct. Matz (the creator or Ruby) famously shut her down in this thread after actually giving the whole thing a good think through.... and you know, not bowing down to pressure from those not in the project.

I could talk about it all afternoon, but here are the links, enjoy :

https://twitter.com/CoralineAda/status/1029161113848557569

https://web.archive.org/web/20180815054656/https:/twitter.com/CoralineAda/status/1029161113848557569
https://web.archive.org/web/20180815055307/https:/twitter.com/CoralineAda/status/1029171507396788225

 

[CrunkLord420]

So one of our favorites is back at it again. Coralina Ada sperged out on twitter this afternoon about the tech community ignoring her and not giving "minorities" a voice. Apparently ignoring politics is a privilege, and "creating the most used code of conduct" is worth more recognition despite being an absolutely horrible person to work with (we can see this from her firing at Github) and using her position to harass, bully and intimidate people she dislikes.

For those unaware, Coralina Ada is the lovely individual that invented the code of conduct. She has spent the last few years trying to push this onto the software community, often blackmailing open source projects that don't conform to her views, and joining projects in order to implement said code of conduct. Matz (the creator or Ruby) famously shut her down in this thread after actually giving the whole thing a good think through.... and you know, not bowing down to pressure from those not in the project.

I could talk about it all afternoon, but here are the links, enjoy :

https://twitter.com/CoralineAda/status/1029161113848557569

https://web.archive.org/web/20180815054656/https:/twitter.com/CoralineAda/status/1029161113848557569
https://web.archive.org/web/20180815055307/https:/twitter.com/CoralineAda/status/1029171507396788225

S E E T H I N G

I mean he says it over and over, he's super pissed off people aren't paying attention to him. Specifically people inside the Ruby community, which has a reputation for being pretty SocJus and hipster infested.

 

[altkiwi01]

Specifically people inside the Ruby community

Yeah, I'm actually a little baffled at that one. I think its because of Matz's reaction to her issue. That dude is fucking lovely, and he was really nice, and level headed in that thread..... his entire reasoning for not using the contributor covenant makes perfect sense. Speaking of, I spent a bit of time programming in Japan last year, it was super super easy to mistakenly use language (on both sides) that might be considered offensive, but people just didn't fucking care, just assume positive intent. We all got on with the job and built some cool things. It was great.

 

[CrunkLord420]

Yeah, I'm actually a little baffled at that one. I think its because of Matz's reaction to her issue. That dude is fucking lovely, and he was really nice, and level headed in that thread..... his entire reasoning for not using the contributor covenant makes perfect sense. Speaking of, I spent a bit of time programming in Japan last year, it was super super easy to mistakenly use language (on both sides) that might be considered offensive, but people just didn't fucking care, just assume positive intent. We all got on with the job and built some cool things. It was great.

Looking at the ticket linked, it's literally because Matz won't adopt Ada's CoC? I don't know the Ruby project that well but Matz seems like he's super Japanese, like extremely Japanese. I'm not sure how great his English is so I wouldn't be surprised he would be simply unable to parse the required "reading between the lines" involved with Ada's cock. Feels a bit scummy on Ada's part.

 

[altkiwi01]

Looking at the ticket linked, it's literally because Matz won't adopt Ada's CoC? I don't know the Ruby project that well but Matz seems like he's super Japanese, like extremely Japanese

Ah right, yeah that makes sense. I (unfortunately) have to interact with the Rails community a lot (being a Rails dev and all). I think the drama there was mostly because Matz wouldn't accept what Ada was saying at face value, he agreed that Ruby should have some sort of coc in some form, but was pretty adamant that it should not be to try and govern speech/actions out of the project, and shouldn't be a list of specific rules, because a coc is pretty much unenforceable. He was also pretty strongly against Ada's coc for cultural reasons, generally because language problems will come up with a project split between Japanese and English. Aside from that, he wasn't happy putting pressure on the community moderators to enforce a coc like Ada's on top of what they do already. He effectively stripped everything out what Ada wanted and turned it into something that works for a healthy, multi-cultural community.
His english isn't amazing, but its probably better than what most people would expect, but yeah, I agree, he wasn't reading between those lines. And to be honest, Ada clearly didn't realise who she was dealing with, you don't sit there and try push a Japanese leader around and expect things to go fucking smooth for you. He very clearly wasn't taking anything she was trying to give. But thankfully he took the time to think about it and give a proper answers and solutions. Very Japanese indeed.

 

[Stock Image Photographer]

So one of our favorites is back at it again. Coralina Ada sperged out on twitter this afternoon about the tech community ignoring her and not giving "minorities" a voice. Apparently ignoring politics is a privilege, and "creating the most used code of conduct" is worth more recognition despite being an absolutely horrible person to work with (we can see this from her firing at Github) and using her position to harass, bully and intimidate people she dislikes.

For those unaware, Coralina Ada is the lovely individual that invented the code of conduct. She has spent the last few years trying to push this onto the software community, often blackmailing open source projects that don't conform to her views, and joining projects in order to implement said code of conduct. Matz (the creator or Ruby) famously shut her down in this thread after actually giving the whole thing a good think through.... and you know, not bowing down to pressure from those not in the project.

I could talk about it all afternoon, but here are the links, enjoy :

https://twitter.com/CoralineAda/status/1029161113848557569

https://web.archive.org/web/20180815054656/https:/twitter.com/CoralineAda/status/1029161113848557569
https://web.archive.org/web/20180815055307/https:/twitter.com/CoralineAda/status/1029171507396788225

What I love about cows like Ada is that they never go away. If they have power, they spend time crowing about how they're kicking out all those mean old cishet white men from the tech industry. When they don't have power, they go on long, hilarious rants like that one.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

Random thought: look at how insistent Ada is about setting up a separate 'committee' to enforce the CoC.

This is a common pattern in progressive, socjus types. If the existing power structure won't fit their needs, they try to establish their own, wholly-dominated system to sidestep the issues. A very similar situation can be seen with Title IX complaints in colleges and the 'star chamber' disciplinary hearings which barely gave lip service to due process (if that).

 

[Norvic]

I wonder if actual women who contribute to open source find Coraline Ada offensive? I mean, this white man puts on a wig and dress and within a couple of months decides that he's the saviour of all women and ethnic minorities in the open source community.

As far as I can tell, all Ada ever does is file drive-by bug reports on popular projects that she's never in her life contributed to insisting they adopt her code of conduct. Yeah, no shit that you aren't popular if that's your approach. If the community wants to introduce rules to police its own behaviour, the suggestion is going to be much more palatable if it comes from someone who is actually involved in the community.

 

[Stock Image Photographer]

I wonder if actual women who contribute to open source find Coraline Ada offensive? I mean, this white man puts on a wig and dress and within a couple of months decides that he's the saviour of all women and ethnic minorities in the open source community.

>actual women
>contributing to open source
We're in the troon times now, you can only pick one.

In all seriousness, the technology-interested women I know think people like Coraline Ada are regressing the cause and making people less tolerant of women and other minorities in programming.

 

[superscript]

I’m sick and tired of fucking Status Quo Accountants stealing the limelight. It’s time for them to step aside and make room for diverse voices.

AND I DON’T MEAN CIS HET WHITE WOMEN

Nobody who was born female can ever represent diversity.

 

[AnOminous]

Looking at the ticket linked, it's literally because Matz won't adopt Ada's CoC? I don't know the Ruby project that well but Matz seems like he's super Japanese, like extremely Japanese. I'm not sure how great his English is so I wouldn't be surprised he would be simply unable to parse the required "reading between the lines" involved with Ada's cock. Feels a bit scummy on Ada's part.

It sounds like he got it fine and just doesn't like it.

Maybe the troon thought he could put one over on a foreigner who doesn't speak English perfectly, but it didn't work, and the result is standard troon rage at being told no, which is literal rape and murder.

But thankfully he took the time to think about it and give a proper answers and solutions. Very Japanese indeed.

He was reasonable and polite in saying no, I am not doing what you want, I am doing this instead.

The troon acted like a boorish American stereotype, but Japanese people more or less expect that kind of behavior out of the roundeyes.