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Half a decade ago I had the thought that having the organ donor sticker on my driver's license is basically telling the paramedics "take your time it doesn't matter if I live or die"
Organ donation in 2022 - Is it still the right thing to do?
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I'll add that it's almost certain that in the future Organ Donation will become the default option and that you would need to make an appeal to opt out, which will likely lower social credit.
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Something that really made me want to change my status as an organ donor is the fact that so many of my parts will be used for research.
The Covid-19 pandemic has given me great disdain for "experts." I don't want to help their research, but it also never occurred to me that organ donation was anything other than your liver or kidney going to someone who really needed it.
The Covid-19 pandemic has given me great disdain for "experts." I don't want to help their research, but it also never occurred to me that organ donation was anything other than your liver or kidney going to someone who really needed it.
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Being plugged in to the internet in the way many of us farmers are does lead you to believe the entire world is full of undeserving degenerates but most people are just getting on with their lives as best they can. Once I'm dead I won't give a fuck anyway so I might as well help a few people out as I go.
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Until troon ideology is discredited and SRS is criminalized, I suspect that a lot of women will withdraw consent to have their organs donated post-mortem due to all the talk about womb transplants. Despite being a man, I'll follow suit.
No way in hell I'm letting my junk get sewed onto the crotch of some auto-androphile.
No way in hell I'm letting my junk get sewed onto the crotch of some auto-androphile.
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I've had it up to my neck hearinvg about other people's supposed medical issues.
I assume anyone who is always talking about "muh healthcare" is a Munchie.
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I am an organ donor and if they begin transplanting genitals and uteruses into troons I will revoke that status immediately. I will not consent to feeding the mental delusions of degenerates.
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I've never been an organ donor, nor would I ever be. I don't want anyone benefiting from my death.
Some people rely on getting donated organs, but I think we should be doing more research into growing them independently from bodies in order to get past the bottleneck. It's rife for abuse and I can't be comfortable with that.
I'm surprised that people here still have enough innocence to not recognize how much arm twisting goes on in the process, sure out of "necessity" but it's still frankly evil. You aren't actually dead when they dismember you, because clinical death would render most of the organs and tissues they want useless. Brain death is at best a guess, and a state we essentially induce everytime we put anyone under anesthesia and also sometimes with recreational drugs, the only difference is the predictability at which time a person will come around. The brain doesn't actually "turn into mush." Things just kind of hang out in stasis, but sometimes just putting in energy is enough to keep the whole system trucking on for decades.
It's impossible to say where exactly your conscious is at that time, but as people have remembered things from anesthesia, it's possible that you aren't as unaware as they insist. You might even be in a trapped state, only realizing death is coming as they pull out your heart. Maybe you still feel the cuts as they only go for paralytics, just in case the shock is enough to wake you up. Wouldn't want to inconveniently have to stop if you suddenly snapped to. It's happened before.
The pragmatic truth is you are worth more to the world as parts than you are as a whole. Your individual value can't compare to the 30 people who will benefit from your pieces, and the greater good of helping science, so there's more benefit to carving you up than trying to save you, especially when there's no guarantee. I won't say what others should do, but I will make my wishes very clear on my ID that I absolutely would never consent to organ donation. Like I'm vehemently against it. I also wouldn't want a donated organ, as I would rather die than go through all the pain and suffering of the upkeep, so it can't be said I'm taking from a system I am not paying into, although largely we as a society are fine with that in plenty of matters and usually those who need organs are too damaged to pay the toll forward.
I think living donations between relatives can be reasonable if it's truly a choice. though I know someone who personally was horrified to be asked to donate to their brother, but was able to lie about not being a match. Expecting anyone to sacrifice their own health to give you a few more years out of your life is very extreme. Sometimes you just got to accept you were dealt a bad hand by fate and play it as well as you can.
The treatment of the unvaxxed as a subhuman class who should not be allowed to even get a living donation has soured me further on the whole matter, but I essentially view it as murder since the body is killed by the removal of the organs and can't get past that.
Some people rely on getting donated organs, but I think we should be doing more research into growing them independently from bodies in order to get past the bottleneck. It's rife for abuse and I can't be comfortable with that.
I'm surprised that people here still have enough innocence to not recognize how much arm twisting goes on in the process, sure out of "necessity" but it's still frankly evil. You aren't actually dead when they dismember you, because clinical death would render most of the organs and tissues they want useless. Brain death is at best a guess, and a state we essentially induce everytime we put anyone under anesthesia and also sometimes with recreational drugs, the only difference is the predictability at which time a person will come around. The brain doesn't actually "turn into mush." Things just kind of hang out in stasis, but sometimes just putting in energy is enough to keep the whole system trucking on for decades.
It's impossible to say where exactly your conscious is at that time, but as people have remembered things from anesthesia, it's possible that you aren't as unaware as they insist. You might even be in a trapped state, only realizing death is coming as they pull out your heart. Maybe you still feel the cuts as they only go for paralytics, just in case the shock is enough to wake you up. Wouldn't want to inconveniently have to stop if you suddenly snapped to. It's happened before.
The pragmatic truth is you are worth more to the world as parts than you are as a whole. Your individual value can't compare to the 30 people who will benefit from your pieces, and the greater good of helping science, so there's more benefit to carving you up than trying to save you, especially when there's no guarantee. I won't say what others should do, but I will make my wishes very clear on my ID that I absolutely would never consent to organ donation. Like I'm vehemently against it. I also wouldn't want a donated organ, as I would rather die than go through all the pain and suffering of the upkeep, so it can't be said I'm taking from a system I am not paying into, although largely we as a society are fine with that in plenty of matters and usually those who need organs are too damaged to pay the toll forward.
I think living donations between relatives can be reasonable if it's truly a choice. though I know someone who personally was horrified to be asked to donate to their brother, but was able to lie about not being a match. Expecting anyone to sacrifice their own health to give you a few more years out of your life is very extreme. Sometimes you just got to accept you were dealt a bad hand by fate and play it as well as you can.
The treatment of the unvaxxed as a subhuman class who should not be allowed to even get a living donation has soured me further on the whole matter, but I essentially view it as murder since the body is killed by the removal of the organs and can't get past that.
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I'd die happy knowing that my organs went to someone who needed them at low cost or no cost. However, the thought of someone who has to choose between the cost of a house for my body parts or dying makes me feel really awful, and I wouldn't consent to that.
Also count me in for not wanting my body to be used in any kind of unnecessary plastic surgery procedure (I count SRS in that category), because I don't roll with cowards like that now, alive.
Also count me in for not wanting my body to be used in any kind of unnecessary plastic surgery procedure (I count SRS in that category), because I don't roll with cowards like that now, alive.
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my parents and a few legit docs I've worked with have advised that they might not try so hard to revive you if you've got a juicy pile of organs and are a listed donor
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That's always been my number one reason for not being an organ donor. I didn't need troon freaks or scamdemic scumbagging to convince me it was a bad idea.
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I understand the concern, but if someone is a donor and potentially viable for harvesting extreme measures will be taken to ensure you stay living at any cost. Organ transplantation is big money and it's a numbers game. They are ranked by number of harvests and transplants. Intraoperative and post operative mortality rates are also a very important number for these institutions. Unfortunately the hospitals have so much to gain from reputation and monetarily from organ donation. People are helped by the process, but healthcare systems make bank from transplants.
The problem is that even if a young patient has viable organs excessive vasopressor administration will make those organs useless. Many young opiate overdoses causing brain death after cardiac resuscitation cannot have organs used. Their heart valves typically have vegetation from endocarditis at baseline. Certain conditions or medications used during one's lifetime can rule them out from being a donor.
The entire donation system is highly organized and regulated. If the harvest leads to complications and the organs are not extracted within a precise time frame they are lost. Then you must deal with transport and having the recipient prepped and ready as soon as the organs arrive. The network behind organ donation and transplantation is highly efficient even with so many complex factors. It is unfortunate how much of a business it is. The organizations do good work, but you can be assured they are profiting heavily from the misfortune of others.
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Agreed to donate earlier, but now doubt anything of mine would be useful, due to the passage of time and surgeries. For example, am sure heart wouldn't be transplanted due to artificial valve.
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Before I joined this site I was very much on the side of "donating my body to science could be net good" and now I am more "Holy fuck cyberpunk was a warning"
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Sure! Why not.
Organ donation typically can only occur very specific situations anyway. Plus if I'm dead, it's not like I'll be needing my liver.
Organ donation typically can only occur very specific situations anyway. Plus if I'm dead, it's not like I'll be needing my liver.
Did your dumbass seriously not know vaccinations were required before this covid shit?
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Never signed up, never will give up my organs.
I'll ask to be cremated, thrown to the sea, dumped in a landfill or fed to vultures, but i'll take my organs with me to the grave, if none of the options showed before are open then i'll drink as much vodka and smoke myself a 100 packs until all my insides are unusable.
Not because of morality, or because i might be left to die in a hospital for some quick bucks in exchange of my heart, or because i'll never know if my forearm will be the next new sausage of a dyke.
But because i like my organs and i would simply like to keep them in me until death.
My body my choice goy
I'll ask to be cremated, thrown to the sea, dumped in a landfill or fed to vultures, but i'll take my organs with me to the grave, if none of the options showed before are open then i'll drink as much vodka and smoke myself a 100 packs until all my insides are unusable.
Not because of morality, or because i might be left to die in a hospital for some quick bucks in exchange of my heart, or because i'll never know if my forearm will be the next new sausage of a dyke.
But because i like my organs and i would simply like to keep them in me until death.
My body my choice goy
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Show me where flu vaccines are required for organ donation. Show me people who were denied organ donations due to refusal. Every single piece of literature I can find uses the term "recommended". The COVID vaccine is uniquely experimental (dangerous) and uniquely ineffective, despite that it is being used a stick against people with critical thinking skills.
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Uhhhh, you need vaccinations to even be put on the list in the first place. You're going to be put on immunosuppressants for the rest of your life.