Culture Over 4 million Gen Zers are jobless—and experts blame colleges for ‘worthless degrees’ and a system of broken promises for the rising number NEETs

  • Over 4 million Gen Zers are not in school or work in the U.S. and in the U.K. 100,000 young people joined the NEETs cohort. But it’s not generational laziness that’s to blame. Experts are taking swipes at “worthless degrees” and a system that “is failing to deliver on its implicit promise.”
There’s been a mass derailment when it comes to Gen Z and their careers: about a quarter of young people are now deemed NEETs—meaning they are no longer in education, employment, or training.

While some Gen Zers may fall into this category because they are taking care of a family member, many have become frozen out of the increasingly tough job market where white-collar jobs are becoming seemingly out of reach.

In the U.S., this translates to an estimated over 4.3 million young people not in school or work. Across the pond in the U.K., the situation is also only getting worse, with the number of NEET young people rising by over 100,000 in the last year alone.

A British podcaster went so far as to call the situation a “catastrophe”—and cast a broad-stroke blame on the education system.

“In many cases, young people have been sent off to universities for worthless degrees which have produced nothing for them at all,” the political commentator, journalist and author, Peter Hitchens slammed colleges last week. “And they would be much better off if they apprenticed to plumbers or electricians, they would be able to look forward to a much more abundant and satisfying life.”

With millions of Gen Zers waking up each day feeling left behind, there needs to be a “wake-up call” that includes educational and workplace partners stepping up, Jeff Bulanda, vice president at Jobs for the Future, tells Fortune.

Higher education’s role in the rising number of NEET Gen Zers​

There’s no question that certain fields of study provide a more direct line to a long-lasting career—take, for example, the healthcare industry. In the U.S. alone, over a million net new jobs are expected to be created in the next decade among home health aids, registered nurses, and nurse practitioners.

On the other hand, millions of students graduate each year with degrees with a less clear career path, leaving young adults underemployed and struggling to make ends meet. And while the long-term future may be bright—with an average return on investment for a college degree being 681% over 40 years, plus promises of Great Wealth Transfer—it may be coming too late for students left with ballooning student loans in an uncertain job market.

Too much time has been focused on promoting a four-year degree as the only reliable route, despite the payoff being more uneven and uncertain, says Bulanda. Other pathways, like skilled trade professionals, should be a larger share of the conversation.

“It's critical that young people are empowered to be informed consumers about their education, equipped with the information they need to weigh the cost, quality, and long-term value of every path available to them,” Bulanda says.

Lewis Maleh, CEO of Bentley Lewis, a staffing and recruitment agency, echoes that colleges should do better at communicating with students about career placement as well as non-academic barriers to entering the workforce, like mental health support and resilience development.

“Universities aren't deliberately setting students up to fail, but the system is failing to deliver on its implicit promise,” Maleh tells Fortune.

“The current data challenges the traditional assumption that higher education automatically leads to economic security.”

What’s caused a NEET crisis—and what can be done?​

Rising prices on everything from rent and gasoline to groceries and textbooks have put a damper on Gen Z, with some even having to turn down their dream job offers because they cannot afford the commute or work clothes.

Plus, with others struggling to land a job in a market changing by the minute thanks to artificial intelligence, it’s no wonder Gen Z finds doomscrolling at home more enjoyable than navigating an economy completely different than what their teachers promised them.

The United Nations agency warns there are still “too many young people” with skills gaps, and getting millions of young people motivated to get back into the classroom or workforce won’t be easy.

Efforts should include ramping up accessible entry points like apprenticeships and internships, especially for disengaged young people, as well as building better bridges between industries and education systems, Maleh says.

Above all, better and more personalized career guidance is key, Bulanda adds.

“When you don’t know what options exist, no one is helping you connect the dots, and the next step feels risky or out of reach—it’s no surprise that so many young people pause,” he says. “The question isn’t why they disconnect; it’s why we haven’t done a better job of recognizing that the old ways aren’t working anymore, and young people need more options and better support to meet them where they are.”
 
  • Bajeets
  • Corpos wanting to replace everything they can with automation
  • fake "we're hiring"
  • inflation
  • having to have 25 certifications and 5 years of experience to work at a register and still paying you shit.
  • Retarded, brain-dead, dementia-ridden boomers running everything and criticizing the working class for not doing enough. while they sit on their hands and enjoy the comforts of power and lived in a world where you could live off minimum wage and apply for jobs by just walking into the place.
  • Dumb personality tests and interview questions that mean nothing in terms of the job. "If you were a bird what kind of bird would you be?" kill yourself.
  • A society where we value and reward the dumbest shit imaginable while the ones wanting to make positive impact get left behind.
 
“In many cases, young people have been sent off to universities for worthless degrees which have produced nothing for them at all,” the political commentator, journalist and author, Peter Hitchens slammed colleges last week. “And they would be much better off if they apprenticed to plumbers or electricians, they would be able to look forward to a much more abundant and satisfying life.”
It’d be nice if such things as apprenticeships existed now, but alas they went the way of the dodo in the 1970s and despite various govt attempts, have never resurfaced. Why would they? There are no big employers here any more, most factories and large manufacturing concerns have gone. Small businesses like plumbers and electricians are usually a one or two man job, and many young people don’t want to do the (hard) work anyway.

My brother works for an IT company who, around eight years ago, took on a school leaver on some sort of government training scheme. Either the recruiter or the upper management spoke big game, because the company decided to top up the trainee’s meagre govt training scheme wages to make the lad’s income in line with a regular member of staff just starting on the bottom rung. On the days he did turn up, the kid sat at his computer all day playing games and fucking around on his phone. When he finally was confronted about doing no work so blatantly, he said he didn’t want the job anyway, as it was boring. He was conveniently let go. An absolutely golden opportunity for that kid to earn way more than his mates, to Learn To Code™️ and to give himself skills that could get him a way better job (and wages).

Wasn’t there some map that showed what kids wanted to be when they grew up? Asia was like ‘doctor’, ‘teacher’, ‘business owner’ and shit. UK‘s kids? ‘YouTuber’. Fuck’s sake. Kids think they should be paid a fat wage for acting like dancing monkeys in front of a camera, but apparently it’s the government’s fault if that doesn’t pan out.

At least learn how to play guitar, shysters.
 
Articles like this make me wonder how much of the problem is a result of people not wanting to settle for a job that's "beneath them", like waitressing or housekeeping. Even if the job doesn't pay a livable wage, making some money for gas and groceries is at least something. Hell, if mom and dad are paying for everything, you could put that wage toward the loans you took out for your useless degree.
 
What bullshit. First, don't believe there are anywhere near 4 million NEETS in our country. Second, while colleges and universities may offer unemployable majors, nobody forces these students to pursue these majors. Third, many students attend trade schools, community colleges, or apprenticeship programs. Some people go right into the job market, doing various jobs.

It is the student's responsibility to determine what path they will take. It is incumbent on them to ask questions and seek guidance to make the best decision possible. And very, very few people have a linear career. Most of us will change majors in college, or try different lines of work, or try alternative routes. This is America, the land of the second, third, fourth, fifth, and sixth chances, as long as you don't disqualify yourself by your own actions or lack thereof.
While true many young people are retards. Without some guidance its easy to change your major to something stupid like Mass Communications that requires almost zero effort on your part to graduate at.
 
Even if I got a job, I still identify as a honorary NEET and wish for that lavish neet lifestyle.

Tendies, tendies, give them NOW!
 
Articles like this make me wonder how much of the problem is a result of people not wanting to settle for a job that's "beneath them", like waitressing or housekeeping. Even if the job doesn't pay a livable wage, making some money for gas and groceries is at least something. Hell, if mom and dad are paying for everything, you could put that wage toward the loans you took out for your useless degree.

Firstly, I don't know if the spoiled zoomies know enough to do those kinda jobs. I've met too many that just don't know how how to do anything customer service or cleaning. A lot of the ones I have met seem to be all about social media.

I think there's a difference in the 2010s pre-covid and the reality post-covid. There's a subset of zoomers that really went all "sink or swim" and are trying. I have a few buddies that are trying at blue collar trades work as apprentices, but they tell me that there's just too many retarded nigs/jeets that cause problems, or that fellow zoomers ruin things, or that management will literally take their trainer/mentor for the apprenticeship away for too long because they don't have enough hands on deck for the experienced stuff. A lot of this would be tolerable if they just weeded out the retards and if management just did the apprenticeships better.

Pre coof, I recall that you could still make it out okay with a degree, a willingness to work, and get some job that paid 40-45k a year, get a roommate or live with parents, get a jalopy, and still be alright. I was looking into that. Now, it's all weird bullshit because it feels like I see lots of places with "hiring" signs perennially, but then they just have skeleton crews.

It's going to collapse. There's no way they can keep fucking with the majority of the country.
 
It does not matter what degree one has if one applies to many jobs and applies themselves. I am a stemlord but am convinced of this.

I know many art students from art schools (just from kids that went to my HS) and people that majored in, like, history or English, and they can get jobs, and good salaried ones. Not a zoom zoom but it is not impossible to be employed.
 
It does not matter what degree one has if one applies to many jobs and applies themselves. I am a stemlord but am convinced of this.

I know many art students from art schools (just from kids that went to my HS) and people that majored in, like, history or English, and they can get jobs, and good salaried ones. Not a zoom zoom but it is not impossible to be employed.

You're objectively right. But in order for the opportunities to get started, there needs to be openings of some sort.
 
Second, while colleges and universities may offer unemployable majors, nobody forces these students to pursue these majors.
For the past 9 years I've been a glorified burger flipper and janitor because I'm not brown, a woman, or a tranny. Silly me, I thought a degree in civil engineering would be a good thing.
 
For the past 9 years I've been a glorified burger flipper and janitor because I'm not brown, a woman, or a tranny. Silly me, I thought a degree in civil engineering would be a good thing.
have you considered a legal name to change to something more exotic sounding.

but in all seriousness, jeez.
 
For the past 9 years I've been a glorified burger flipper and janitor because I'm not brown, a woman, or a tranny. Silly me, I thought a degree in civil engineering would be a good thing.
have you considered a legal name to change to something more exotic sounding.

but in all seriousness, jeez.
I've been looking for an entry level IT job for an equal amount of time and I found a desktop support technician job that asks for three to five years of experience. What the fuck are these people smoking?
As for your issue, that would drive anyone to shoot the place up.
 
I've been looking for an entry level IT job for an equal amount of time and I found a desktop support technician job that asks for three to five years of experience. What the fuck are these people smoking?
As for your issue, that would drive anyone to shoot the place up.
if I wasn't worried about all kiwi frens being Feds, I'd totally give a pat on the back too. Shit's rough.

I get the older generations. There's always something they're saying that's got truth to it. But, the context of the times changes. At this rate, I'm probably gonna be trying to do everything I can, from flipping used goods on ebay to anything else that isn't a heavy labor job. But, jeez. I hear it's like this across the world. Even nepotism's starting to fail in getting people jobs.
 
I've been looking for an entry level IT job for an equal amount of time and I found a desktop support technician job that asks for three to five years of experience. What the fuck are these people smoking?
As for your issue, that would drive anyone to shoot the place up.
This is something I talk about in the Jeet thread a lot. As I've worked in technology for almost 20 years now.

Offshoring entry level IT jobs cuts off the pipeline of creating the highly skilled greybeard IT admins. Every single IT director worth his salt you will ever find all started at the help desk. Every single one. We give these jobs to illiterate pajeet retards now to save a few shekels. This goes for most developer jobs too. This just means that the only jobs available are for the top 5% of performers due to this bullshit.
 
For the past 9 years I've been a glorified burger flipper and janitor because I'm not brown, a woman, or a tranny. Silly me, I thought a degree in civil engineering would be a good thing.
Yeah, well, the other side of it is that I'm a woman, and as hard as I've tried to get actual engineering work, I've been stonewalled beyond anything that requires me to put things in Powerpoint (thanks to DEI, nobody thinks I'm a real engineer).

I remember watching Apollo 13, and that scene where Gary Sinise says, "Damn it, is it 3 amps or 4 amps?"

Crazy as it sounds, that scene hit me hard, because that was the kind of engineer i wanted to be. Back in those days, you were close enough to the end user that knowing what you knew meant something. It wasn't about the piece of paper. It was because you fucking cared enough about what you were doing that you were running budget analyses in your head to solve a specific problem. You didn't have search engines to rely on, you just had to perform.

Now, it's eight layers of admin and at least seven of those layers haven't been grandfathered out of needing niche certifications before the guy in the field comes up with a dollar-store solution to make the $12m you spent on a fancy project almost completely useless.

All that to say: we've built an infrastructure that discouraged passion for a turn-the-crank job market for most and a bottlenecked slog for the rest of us.

Fuck, I want to cry.

I'm gonna go learn how to fix bikes.
 
Firstly, I don't know if the spoiled zoomies know enough to do those kinda jobs. I've met too many that just don't know how how to do anything customer service or cleaning. A lot of the ones I have met seem to be all about social media.

I think there's a difference in the 2010s pre-covid and the reality post-covid. There's a subset of zoomers that really went all "sink or swim" and are trying. I have a few buddies that are trying at blue collar trades work as apprentices, but they tell me that there's just too many retarded nigs/jeets that cause problems, or that fellow zoomers ruin things, or that management will literally take their trainer/mentor for the apprenticeship away for too long because they don't have enough hands on deck for the experienced stuff. A lot of this would be tolerable if they just weeded out the retards and if management just did the apprenticeships better.

Pre coof, I recall that you could still make it out okay with a degree, a willingness to work, and get some job that paid 40-45k a year, get a roommate or live with parents, get a jalopy, and still be alright. I was looking into that. Now, it's all weird bullshit because it feels like I see lots of places with "hiring" signs perennially, but then they just have skeleton crews.

It's going to collapse. There's no way they can keep fucking with the majority of the country.
I read an article a few years back on why millennial work ethic is so shitty. It essentially boiled down to one word - entitlement. They want to be "part of something bigger" and don't realize that you have to work to get there. You don't just start from the top.
 
I read an article a few years back on why millennial work ethic is so shitty. It essentially boiled down to one word - entitlement. They want to be "part of something bigger" and don't realize that you have to work to get there. You don't just start from the top.
Millennials got this odd placement in the world where every single one of them is either highly hyper rich or dollar-general broke ass nigga trash. There is no middle-class millennial.
 
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