Crime Overweight people are publicly weighed and ordered to slim down under new rules in Turkey - with inspectors patrolling public spaces

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Overweight people are publicly weighed and ordered to slim down under new rules in Turkey - with inspectors patrolling public spaces
By ELENA SALVONI
Published: 20:15 EDT, 21 May 2025 | Updated: 20:33 EDT, 21 May 2025


Turkey has rolled out a nationwide scheme to stop and weigh people in public, with inspectors then telling them to slim down if they are found to be overweight.

Health workers have been deployed across each of the country's 81 regions with weighing scales and tape measures as the drive to assess 10 million people by July 10 is underway.

Passersby are stopped by medical examiners for spot body mass index (BMI) checks while walking through town squares, shopping centres and parks, and even as they prepare to board buses or head to football matches, according to reports.

Speaking at a nursing conference last week, Turkey's Minister of Health Kemal Memişoğlu declared that '50 percent of our society is overweight.'
He pointed to the various health risks associated with being overweight, telling the meeting: 'Being overweight means being sick, it means we will get sick in the future.

'Our young children are overweight, their body resistance is high and that's why they don't get sick, but when they start getting older, that weight will turn into joint and heart diseases.'

But Memişoğlu was not spared the scales in Ankara last week - and was told by health officials that he was among the large proportion of the population counted as 'above normal weight'.

'Which dietitian should I go to?' he reportedly said afterwards, before adding in a follow-up post on Thursday: 'Turns out I'm a little over. It's up to me now, I'll be walking every day.'

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Another person who was checked by the inspectors, psychiatrist and academic Gökben Hızlı Sayar, wrote on X: 'I got caught in a fat checkpoint in Üsküdar Square. Luckily, they scolded me a little and let me go.

'Like drivers warning of speed traps, I tipped off three other chubby people heading that way. Solidarity, my fellow fat comrades!'

Memişoğlu responded to people joking about the scheme on social media: 'Dear young people, I read what you write on social media. You are very entertaining, but the issue of being overweight is serious.'

Pictures from around Turkey have shown people being guided onto weighing scales and having their height measured before their weight is calculated.

The anti-obesity campaign, which is described by officials as a 'national fight' and is running under the tag line 'know your weight, live healthy,' began on May 10 and plans to survey one in eight Turks.

People with a BMI over 25 are referred to state-run Family Health centres and Healthy Life centres, where they can receive free nutritional counseling and follow-up services.

Turks have hit out at the measures, which many have argued point to the government being out of touch with the daily realities of soaring food prices and wage stagnation, and the impact this can have on healthy eating.

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The Erdogan government has also been criticised for the very public nature of the scheme, with Turks questioning why people need to be weighed in public.

Meanwhile an article in Turkish daily newspaper Evrensel pointed out that the scheme was rolled out in the same week that a new generation weight loss injection was launched in Turkey - something it labelled 'a 'strange' coincidence'.

The World Health Organisation (WHO) estimated in 2023 that some 30 per cent of Turkish people are obese.

Health experts warned earlier this year that a BMI score is not 'nuanced' enough to measure obesity, with more assessments needed before someone is told they are obese.

The new Lancet Commission of more than 50 experts from around the world argued that doctors should only diagnose patients as clinically obese if they have illnesses directly caused by obesity alone, such as type 2 diabetes.

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BMI first gained popularity in the 1970s as a way of judging body fat. A healthy BMI is typically measured between 18.5 and 25.

Anything under 18.5 is considered underweight. BMIs between 25 and 29.9 fall into overweight territory, and above 30 is considered obese.

It is useful for tracking population trends in body weight, but has well-known limitations when applied to individuals, Dr Arya Sharma, an obesity researcher at the University of Alberta in Canada, told Live Science.

For example, many professional athletes qualify as overweight or obese based on solely their BMI. But they have much more muscle mass, which weighs proportionally more than fat.
 
have a lot of muscle
Let's also not forget that bodybuilders are not healthy. Many have to use a CPAP machine like the deathfats. The knees and other ligaments are also not happy to support excessive weight.

I really don't know how the "BMI is junk science" became a common talking point in the right? Is it Joe Rogan?

Weight is weight and doesn't matter what it is or how tall you are. It really needs to just go away.
But 20lbs overweight is very different if you are 5' 2'' vs 6' 3''.
BMI is a good tool to give you an idea. People also forget that it is a range, not a single number. There is a lot of variation within the "healthy" range. The overweight category is also not considered much cause of concern, and it is a warning that you should work on it, rather than the massive problem of being obese.
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Everyone I've ever seen complain about BMI was accurately profiled by it.
I've heard mainly fatties, but also one bodybuilder who complained about his doctor not understand his BMI isn't high.

But that body builder was on absolute shittons of illegal steroids and even sold them on the side to some gym buddies. He should worry about his heart health based on his roids and binge drinking.

Yes, The Rock or that famous Icelandic strongman aren't accurately assessed by BMI. But everyone's Aunt Betty and her fat daughter certainly can be. A measure that's 99 percent useful is great in modern medicine.
 
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I wouldn't worry about it. All the faggots I have seen online making fun of fat people also make fun of people who are too skinny. They are just faggots that are never happy. Miserable assholes. LOL
Exceptions exist but the numbers speak for themself
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Don't get me wrong, lots of white americans are fatsos too. Though those same red states tend to have higher amounts of blacks aswel, actually
But especially internationally, it's 100% a low IQ (therefore non-white non-asian) issue.
Only the states in the south like Louisianna and Alabama. I am talking about states like Iowa Utah and shit like that. States in the Midwest and Western part of the US. Lots of fat white poor people live out there. Also, prairie niggers with a bad case of McDonalds addiction.
Let's also not forget that bodybuilders are not healthy. Many have to use a CPAP machine like the deathfats. The knees and other ligaments are also not happy to support excessive weight.

I really don't know how the "BMI is junk science" became a common talking point in the right? Is it Joe Rogan?


But 20lbs overweight is very different if you are 5' 2'' vs 6' 3''.
BMI is a good tool to give you an idea. People also forget that it is a range, not a single number. There is a lot of variation within the "healthy" range. The overweight category is also not considered much cause of concern, and it is a warning that you should work on it, rather than the massive problem of being obese.
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Yeah it doesn't matter how you stretch it though. It's still weight. The BMI uses height and weight to give you a number. It basically said a guy that is 6' 2" and 250lbs is better off than a guy that's 5' 8" and 250.

No, bodybuilders aren't healthy. 230lbs of muscle is basically the same as 230lbs of fat. Weight is weight as the end of the day. Then you have the fact that so many of them use steroids which comes with its own issues.
 
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It's still weight. The BMI uses height and weight to give you a number. It basically said a guy that is 6' 2" and 250lbs is better off than a guy that's 5' 8" and 250.
Your phrasing is so odd: "it's still weight". Do you think people should weight zero lbs?
It does also say that if you are 120lbs and 5' 2" you are good, but if you are 6' 4" you should eat more.

Also the point of the categories is that they correlate with different health outcomes, that is why they are useful. They inform you that if you are "Obese" instead of "Overweight", you should be very concerned.

Also, 250 is a stupidly high weight and maybe you have been so brainwashed by what you see around you, but it is not a normal weight. Even in the chart I shared it is not included, and it goes up to 6' 4" which is 99th percentile of men.

Is this your point: BMI is not useful if you are a very fat fuck because you and everyone know is aware you are fat and knowing if you are category Obese 1 or 2 is not that helpful?

Would measurements (fat in your midsection is worse than fat in your lower body) and body composition be better? Sure, but most methods are a mix of at least 2 of: expensive, time consuming, not that accurate, require specialized equipment. Hence not realistic when BMI does a pretty good job of telling you if you are at increased risk of bad health outcomes. It is most helpful for people in the healthy to Obese 1 range, where people may not immediately know exactly where they place (healthy vs overweight, and overweight vs obese).

Yes, The Rock or that famous Icelandic strongman aren't accurately assessed by BMI.
Yes they are, for the most part. Most strongmen still use CPAP, that is not good. Both Dwayne Johnson and "Thor" Björnsson take PEDs (steroids) and are not healthy. They are healthier than if they would have the same weight, but fat instead of muscle.
I agree that they may naturally end up to be classed as overweight, but likely at the edge with healthy.

I had a look at Thor's wikipedia (mostly to find his name - Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson), and he is 6' 9".
His career in sports started with basketball and he was 230 lbs. From an online calculator for BMI, the healthy range for a 20 yo male, is between 172.7 and 261.3 pounds. For a middle aged man, it would be between 172.7 and 224.0 pounds.
Basically, without PEDs, he ends up on the higher side of healthy. During his strongman career, he went to around 400-460lbs. I would bet he sleeps with a CPAP at that weight.
 
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I like the idea, but would never work in the US sadly. Fatties would buy guns and go on Snickers fueled shooting sprees.

I would tell them to kiss my fat hairy ass. Then I would pull out a candy bar and eat it while walking waddling away, huffing and puffing from the physical exertion.
FTFY!
 
I'm Turkish and only just heard about this happening through this thread. It's not talked about on Turkish social media and I've only seen foreign or pro-government news mentioning it. This shit is not something that's widely implemented at all.

The reason pro-government news talk about it is in order to distract the population from all the shit going on in Turkey right now:

The economy is collapsing, there are anti-government protests after the arrest of Istanbul's opposition mayor, erDOGan is pursuing a highly unpopular new peace process with the PKK in order to get Kurdish support, a new law package containing controversial shit is trying to be passed by the government, and erDOGan is mass arresting officials from the opposition-led Istanbul Municipality.

The pro-government media regularly does shit like this, for example famously the pro-government CNN Turk showed a penguin documentary during the Gezi Parkı Protests while CNN International provided live coverage.
 
Your phrasing is so odd: "it's still weight". Do you think people should weight zero lbs?
It does also say that if you are 120lbs and 5' 2" you are good, but if you are 6' 4" you should eat more.

Also the point of the categories is that they correlate with different health outcomes, that is why they are useful. They inform you that if you are "Obese" instead of "Overweight", you should be very concerned.

Also, 250 is a stupidly high weight and maybe you have been so brainwashed by what you see around you, but it is not a normal weight. Even in the chart I shared it is not included, and it goes up to 6' 4" which is 99th percentile of men.

Is this your point: BMI is not useful if you are a very fat fuck because you and everyone know is aware you are fat and knowing if you are category Obese 1 or 2 is not that helpful?

Would measurements (fat in your midsection is worse than fat in your lower body) and body composition be better? Sure, but most methods are a mix of at least 2 of: expensive, time consuming, not that accurate, require specialized equipment. Hence not realistic when BMI does a pretty good job of telling you if you are at increased risk of bad health outcomes. It is most helpful for people in the healthy to Obese 1 range, where people may not immediately know exactly where they place (healthy vs overweight, and overweight vs obese).
I guess like a lot of people on this forum you suck at reading and comprehension. I didn't know autism caused those sorts of problems.

Anyway, my point it doesn't matter what is causing the weight. It's still weight. If weight is bad for you, it doesn't matter what is causing it.
You belong in a camp.
You belong on a hole in the ground.
 
I don’t understand why you just don’t put overweight or obese people in what amounts to house arrest-starve them for six months to a year until they are at a healthy weight.
 
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I've spent time in Korea, and they just say to you that you're fat and that you should lose weight. But making people step on a scale in public is a little overkill.
 
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Kinda based but ultimately useless if you don’t teach people how to lose weight. Most people are completely oblivious to even basic concepts like calorie counting. Nutrition should be taught in school.

This is even worse in poor countries where even the experts may be decades behind the rest of the world in terms of knowledge about fitness and nutrition and are most likely still believing in outdated ideas.

BMI itself is pretty much junk science. It would be better to take body measurements, but that would take a lot more work.
Damn, big brain. Why are you wasting your time here when you should be advising nutrition experts on how they should do their jobs?

Please don't squander this gift; head over to Turkey today and spread the word. Don't wait!
 
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