Palworld - Everything you have ever wanted from a Pokemon game

[Cairo The Farsighted Clam]

God forbid they just make better games

That's the worst part. Nintendo and their fans supporting them in this lawsuit are complacent. They will either not make a better Pokemon game after all is said and done, or it'll be even worse than Scarlet/Violet.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

State of Play announced PalWorld for PS5 available now. I assume it’ll actually be available in a couple hours.

 

[The Fatriarchy]

"Throwing an object to capture an animal" is functionally no different from a net or a cage. This concept has existed for about as long as humanity has. Nintendo may as well sue the fishing industry next if this lawsuit is successful.

I've already said before, patents don't stop at just "throw an object and catch an animal", that's to dumb it down to the basics without including all the other qualifiers that make it what it is. It defines the control method and the circumstances around it. Your example of the fishing industry already makes no sense because nets and cages don't compute or display a capture rate, or make use of a button press and analog stick movement, or occur inside a video game, and that's just the start of it.

The ball throwing patent is huge and lists everything down to the way the computer processes the actions. They use diagrams and flowcharts and refer to them through the patent. This doesn't get confused with anything else. Hell, it's not even just about ball throwing, it describes multiple other things that relate and tie into the throw and capture mechanic. At the end of the day, it's a description for mechanics that only Palworld and Pokemon are currently using.

As for patent law, I don't know anything about that, but given that the patent more closely describes systems from their 2022 game Pokemon Legends, I have to wonder if this is relevant at all in the case, or if that will be ignored in favor of the filing date.

Does game which has lassoing mechanic infringe upon their patent?

Depending on how it was done, probably no. If Palworld changed to this, Nintendo would have to go fuck itself.

edit: Wow, you stupid fuckers are just as dumb on both sides. OK then, you've convinced me, Nintendo should win, If only because you're ignorant niggers no different from the people you're throwing shade at.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

And it’s live.

https://store.playstation.com/en-tr/product/UP6360-PPSA23126_00-0112788005082769

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

.....everywhere except Japan of course.

"As announced in the official PlayStation "State of Play", the PS5 version of Palworld was released today in 68 countries and regions around the world. In Japan, the release date has not yet been decided. We apologize to everyone in Japan who was looking forward to it, but all of our staff will do our best to deliver it to PS5 users as soon as possible, so we would appreciate your patience for a little while longer. We hope you will continue to support Palworld."

 

[macrodegenerate]

.....everywhere except Japan of course.
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Copyright and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

 

[Battlefield2142EU]

State of Play announced PalWorld for PS5 available now.

I agree with clownfish TV. The real reason Nintendo is suing Palworld is Sony entertainment brought the rights to make a Palworld Anime and movie. While Palworld will remain a multi-platform game. Imagine if Sony backed Digimon in the 90s the same way with the same kind of money. While Digimon remain multi-platform with PS2 and Xbox with full Sony backing.

 

[macrodegenerate]

I agree with clownfish TV. The real reason Nintendo is suing Palworld is Sony entertainment brought the rights to make a Palworld Anime and movie. While Palworld will remain a multi-platform game. Imagine if Sony backed Digimon in the 90s the same way with the same kind of money.

I still think for all it's faults Digimon World for the PS1 had better gameplay then mainline Pokemon. I recently played Next Order and it's not even close. I burned a week while having a job playing that game from start to finish, and never felt bored even with how grindy it was.

 

[Battlefield2142EU]

I still think for all it's faults Digimon World for the PS1 had better gameplay then mainline Pokemon.

I think Digimon World is a better adaption of the Pokémon Anime than any of the real Pokémon games. At most, maybe the Pokémon yellow edition Pikachu feels like a pet and friend? Pokémon don’t feel like friends or pets in the mainline games.

 

[Neil]

LOL the rumors of Palworld skipping TGS were false, they showed up and let their balls hang. Hopefully this means they won't back down against Nintendo's lawsuit.

First look at the plushies they were giving out at the event. Nintendo probably shat themselves the hardest at the thought of parents doing birthday or Christmas shopping confusing Pals for Pokemon and buying their kids Palworld merch, eating into some of their sales, or Pals plushies in general just overtaking Pokemon sales. Young kids just pick out what appeals to them, regardless of brand name, so Palworld gaining even an inch on Pokemon's target demographic is bad news for Nintendo.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

https://archive.ph/fkPY1

In particular, a Japanese patent attorney generated a list of 28 possible patents, noting that the following Japanese issued patents – JP 7545191, JP 7528390, JP 7493117, and JP 7505854 – were especially relevant. Based on machine translations, each of these patents relates to different aspects of catching and/or riding "combat characters" / "airborne rideable characters" / "field characters" (e.g., Pokémon) using "player characters." Further, each of these patents were filed as divisionals off of pre-existing patent families after the release of Palworld and were accelerated to issuance using Japanese expedited examination procedures.

Given the above, let's use the four JP assets mentioned as a starting point. For reference, there appear to be four U.S. counterpart applications (i.e., applications filed with the United States Patent and Trademark Office that share a common priority claim with at least one of the four JP assets above) – U.S. App. No. 17/949,666 ("US-App-1"), U.S. App. No. 17/949,831 ("US-App-2"), U.S. App. No. 18/652,874 ("US-App-3"), and U.S. App. No. 18/652,883 ("US-App-4"). US-App-1 and US-App-2 were both filed in September 2022, so it is unlikely they were filed with the specific intent of targeting Palworld (though could still obviously be asserted against Palworld if infringed). However, US-App-3 and US-App-4 were both filed in May 2024 (after the release of Palworld). Even more interesting, both US-App-3 and US-App-4 were filed with Track One requests. Track One is a program at the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) where an applicant pays a fee to have the examination of their patent application substantially expedited (the USPTO attempts to provide the applicant with a final disposition, which is either an allowance or a final rejection, within at most 12 months). Based on this information, it is not overly speculative to assume Nintendo filed US-App-3 and US-App-4 with the intention of targeting Palworld.

TL;DR: Nintendo is totally doing this to smother Palworld in the crib rather than make actually good Pokemon games. Total AAA Death.

 

[GhastlyGhost]

I just hope those Yakuza cocksuckers get absolutely reamed, and/or killed by the Triad. Lawfare is about the most evil you can conduct without raping and eating someone.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

 

[Scream Aim Fire]

Found this video about Palworld getting sued:

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

I agree with clownfish TV. The real reason Nintendo is suing Palworld is Sony entertainment brought the rights to make a Palworld Anime and movie. While Palworld will remain a multi-platform game. Imagine if Sony backed Digimon in the 90s the same way with the same kind of money. While Digimon remain multi-platform with PS2 and Xbox with full Sony backing.

Palworld Concord when?

 

[Nick Gars]

Palworld Concord when?

A F2P Hero Shooter with pseudo-Pokemon would unironically do gangbusters in comparison to Concord. It wouldn't take off like Palworld did, as the genre is effectively dead outside of TF2 and Overwatch, but it would make Concord at least 10 times more embarassing when comparing sales numbers. Give me the ability to call in a carpet bombing Jetragon as an Ult and we're golden.

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

A F2P Hero Shooter with pseudo-Pokemon would unironically do gangbusters in comparison to Concord. It wouldn't take off like Palworld did, as the genre is effectively dead outside of TF2 and Overwatch, but it would make Concord at least 10 times more embarassing when comparing sales numbers. Give me the ability to call in a carpet bombing Jetragon as an Ult and we're golden.

It would be like Overwatch, except everyone is Warlock (DotA2) and can deploy powerful monsters everywhere.

 

[Noebel]

the genre is effectively dead outside of TF2 and Overwatch

Not the best time. Valves new one in the beta test right now. And some chinese firm does this, but with Marvel characters. Not the best time to release another one.

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

Copyright and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

Would disagree as copyright as originally envisioned and put into law fulfilled a legitimate purpose in the United States. It is the Disneyization of copyright law where the "its consequences have been a disaster for the human race" is more appropriately apt.

 

[Nick Gars]

Not the best time. Valves new one in the beta test right now. And some chinese firm does this, but with Marvel characters. Not the best time to release another one.

I agree completely, but it would still do better than Concord even given those odds.

Personally I'd like to see PP make a Palworld GO. The only 2 AR games anyone even plays anymore are Pokemon GO and Monster Hunter Unite, and POGO is a straight dumpster fire. They need a bit bigger cast of creatures before they can really try that IMO, but I also feel like they would have to put in actual effort to make an end product worse than POGO.

Plus it would make Nintendo absolutely mald to the nth degree if it proved profitable. We're talking about a company that shot its own product, Pokemon GO, in the fucking legs in its infancy because even the dog shit-actually-a-beta release Niantic had to show made them look bad because of how well it did initially. PP felting them to that level would be amazing.