Palworld - Everything you have ever wanted from a Pokemon game

[Celso Bin Portiolli]

And you don't think respecting the source of your fun is important, even if the person saying this may be misguided in where they're applying this?

But what does respect mean in this context? Not threading the same ground? Remember the lawsuit is over a specific patent, every other issue you might have is irrelevant here.

 

[The Fatriarchy]

So because I had fun with Pokemon games before, I shouldn't be angry at Nintendo for being Kike Niggers now? If you really respect something, you aren't afraid to call out their fuck ups. "You weren't nice enough about your complaints" (which is what this boils down to) is a bullshit cope.

Missed the point. It's obvious that from that person's perspective, unless you're an autistic retard, that they see Palworld as stepping on toes, and that wanting Palworld to win here is an attack of some kind against the thing that made it what it is to begin with.

Whether that's actually true or not doesn't matter. The sentiment isn't wrong, just the perspective. The overall message is not "Westerners want to have fun and they shouldn't do that", it's "Westerners run roughshod over game companies if they see anything as an obstacle to their game time" and it's not that hard to agree with that most of the time. I'm watching two retarded sides do that right now. Erasing that from their statement makes them look like their motivation is purely pogeyman fanboyism when it's not just that.

You can, however, disagree with is the idea that Palworld doing the funny pokeyball fps is relevant to that. I don't think any of us here wouldn't.

 

[Cairo The Farsighted Clam]

Missed the point. It's obvious that from that person's perspective, unless you're an autistic retard, that they see Palworld as stepping on toes, and that wanting Palworld to win here is an attack of some kind against the thing that made it what it is to begin with.

Whether that's actually true or not doesn't matter. The sentiment isn't wrong, just the perspective. The overall message is not "Westerners want to have fun and they shouldn't do that", it's "Westerners run roughshod over game companies if they see anything as an obstacle to their game time" and it's not that hard to agree with that most of the time. I'm watching two retarded sides do that right now. Erasing that from their statement makes them look like their motivation is purely pogeyman fanboyism when it's not just that.

You can, however, disagree with is the idea that Palworld doing the funny pokeyball fps is relevant to that. I don't think any of us here wouldn't.

I am a literal sperg and I picked up right away that the expressed perspective is "Westerners will enjoy Palworld recklessly at Pokemon's expense", with it being equally obvious to everyone else.

 

[Celso Bin Portiolli]

but it's highly unlikely that Nintendo will learn any lessons and just rest on their laurels as they already are, assuming that it's just character designs that made Palworld popular, not Game Freak's incompetence

Truth be told, the Pals do look like store brand Pokémon; people tend to avoid this stuff if the original is good and available. That is to say, GameFreak sucks so bad people willingly played the "knockoff", lol

 

[Egregore]

Oh god, this could be it. The patent Nintendo is suing over is literally "Throw thing at creature to store them".

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https://patents.justia.com/patent/20240278129

Yeah, well how about I swing my balls across the faces of the creatures working at Nintendo. Would that be considered a patent violation in addition to the sexual harassment charges?

 

[TATE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODE!!]

Oh god, this could be it. The patent Nintendo is suing over is literally "Throw thing at creature to store them".

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https://patents.justia.com/patent/20240278129

Didn't Megami Tensei do that first with the devil summoning program?

 

[Celso Bin Portiolli]

Didn't Megami Tensei do that first with the devil summoning program?

It's not a "ball throwing", but I think Dragon Quest III had a mechanic where you stored monsters in bottles; or at least the anime version did. Point is, the concept is OLD

 

[Fat Nerd]

I'll never forgive Nintendo for suing Pocketpair and consequently exposing me to the Internet's retarded legal opinions

 

[Cairo The Farsighted Clam]

Didn't Megami Tensei do that first with the devil summoning program?

Since demons in SMT are recruited by conversing with them, there's no actual method of capture present in the game. The Devil Summoning Program is software designed for various kinds of computers to facilitate the storage, transportation and utilization of demons via digital summoning rituals. Pokeballs have no real specific description on how they function in their own setting, only informing you that Pokemon can shrink to live inside them, and that they aren't held in stasis or digitized. That would probably be sufficiently different enough to prevent Nintendo from suing Atlus.

 

[Vining]

The only time Nintendo fans actually get "mad" is when Nintendo shuts down Smash Bros Melee tournaments,

Nintendo must have their reasons that involves sanitary or safety hazards to do something like that lmao.

 

[X Prime]

I know japanese, he gave a good enough summary. What was "ommited" was a bunch of moralfagging about westerners having their values mixed up and not caring for respect and what not as long as they get what they want (fun).

That shit is deeply ironic for a Jap to say when their game fanbases and companies have ripped each other and overseas properties off with nary a peep.

They're not immune to the tendency of someone to declare whether something is disrespecting an earlier property or just merely inspired by it based on whether they like the derived property.

 

[RefurbishedApparatus]

People deserve better games than whatever the fuck is the latest entries of the Pokémon franchise!

Also some of these japanese idiots who are defending Nintendo would probably make for some nice content in the japanese lolcow thread.

 

[The Fatriarchy]

Since demons in SMT are recruited by conversing with them, there's no actual method of capture present in the game. The Devil Summoning Program is software designed for various kinds of computers to facilitate the storage, transportation and utilization of demons via digital summoning rituals. Pokeballs have no real specific description on how they function in their own setting, only informing you that Pokemon can shrink to live inside them, and that they aren't held in stasis or digitized. That would probably be sufficiently different enough to prevent Nintendo from suing Atlus.

Even so, the patent everyone thinks is involved here is for a specific mechanic that only two of their games use at this point, and probably a third when that other game comes out. As far as I know, Palworld is also the only other monster catching game that uses this mechanic, too. I couldn't tell you if that's the reason they feel safe doing this, but I wouldn't doubt it.

 

[Neil]

lol it turns out Pocketpair already did the whole third-person Pokeball aiming thing before Legends Arceus did back in 2020 with Craftopia:

I saw a few videos that theorized that this legal action might have come about due to Sony and Aniplex (responsible for Demon Slayer, Sword Art Online, Gurren Lagann (in part), and a bunch of other big-hit anime) inking a deal with Pocketpair to finance Palworld merchandise (plushies and trading cards) and likely a Palworld manga and anime.

Nintendo shat themselves after seeing this, coupled with the fact that Palworld outsold Legends Arceus, and Scarlet/Violet (individually), and decided to try and smother Pocketpair in the cradle in any way possible before they emulated the same success that make Pokemon a worldwide phenomenon.

 

[PyrrhicRustle]

Nintendo shat themselves after seeing this, coupled with the fact that Palworld outsold Legends Arceus, and Scarlet/Violet (individually), and decided to try and smother Pocketpair in the cradle in any way possible before they emulated the same success that make Pokemon a worldwide phenomenon.

God forbid they just make better games

 

[ZMOT]

It's not a "ball throwing", but I think Dragon Quest III had a mechanic where you stored monsters in bottles; or at least the anime version did. Point is, the concept is OLD

wait, this lawsuit is really about if monsters are stored in the balls?

 

[Celso Bin Portiolli]

wait, this lawsuit is really about if monsters are stored in the balls?

It's what we speculate, because Nintendo didn't even say what patent Pocketpair breached

 

[The Fatriarchy]

wait, this lawsuit is really about if monsters are stored in the balls?

No, the one people think it's about is aiming and throwing a thing to catch something and take ownership of it. The patent supposedly also includes the display of catch rate with this mechanic, despite the fact no Pokemon game has actually used this, and now that I say that, I feel like this may come under fire as only Palworld actually used this.

 

[round robin]

It's not a "ball throwing", but I think Dragon Quest III had a mechanic where you stored monsters in bottles; or at least the anime version did. Point is, the concept is OLD

"Throwing an object to capture an animal" is functionally no different from a net or a cage. This concept has existed for about as long as humanity has. Nintendo may as well sue the fishing industry next if this lawsuit is successful.

 

[Corette]

"Throwing an object to capture an animal" is functionally no different from a net or a cage. This concept has existed for about as long as humanity has. Nintendo may as well sue the fishing industry next if this lawsuit is successful.

Does game which has lassoing mechanic infringe upon their patent?