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Life By You director Rod Humble announced that Early Access for the game will be delayed again, to June 2024:


The amount of delays the game has gotten, makes it look like it's going to shit the bed, if it does get released.

Rod Humble himself looks like he didn't age well, compared to back in his days working on The Sims 3. I do wonder who aged worse, Rod, Lyndsay Pearson, Grant Rodiek, Graham Nardone, or any other The Sims 4 dev?
 
I know people like to trot out that Miyamoto quote about delaying games but more often than not I've seen it the other way around. If the game is delayed by that much there's a 50/50 chance it's going to be shit regardless because the underlying architecture and design are so bad that it's all a studio can do to slap something together to try and make back some money.

That, and Parapozzed are so bad about DLC, culture war bullshit, and selling unfinished games that I hope no one buys it anyway...
 
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It's technically not Paradox themselves, as they are the publishers rather than the developers, but Millennia now has a demo available as part of the Steam Next Fest which you guys might wanna check out. It seems to be a Civilization style game but with more freedom to go around changing your nation as time goes on, similar to that Humankind game that came out a while ago but flopped because of bad balancing and bland design.

 
The absolute fucking state of pretty much the entire HoI 4 community. Recently Paradox stealth dropped a 1.13.7 update with no announcement of patch notes. Someone decided to look in the actual changelog.txt file and saw this:
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This started a bunch of rampant speculation on the subreddit (yeah yeah I know) that this was some sort of teaser for a Japan rework:
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There were a whole bunch of speculative posts of potential full SEA nation expansions, and discussions of how a Japan rework would look given they technically got a part paid rework in a previous DLC. At no point does anyone seem to be questioning why a hypothetical future Japan rework would even require a random stealth patch now. Or why they'd be teasing this when they're still in the middle of hyping the South America country pack that isn't even out yet. of course the answer turned out to be, because it's not a fucking teaser, as figured out by the (marginally) less retarded posters on the paradox forums:
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Of course this begs the question of why the devs are doing retarded shit like the ASCII art instead of you know, putting actual fucking changes in the changelog. Especially for a game with such a large modding community, where mods might get accidentally marked out of date (thus causing the inevitable headache for modders being spammed with "update wen" posts from mongs) because version numbers changed, even if it doesn't affect the content itself.
 
How can you not be familiar with the Brazilian Expeditionary Force?
I have heard of them. But they were also one division from a joke country. To play a bit off Stalin, might as well add a Papal States focus tree.


Millennia sounds like it could be okay. I've played around with Civ VI and it's fine. I actually get the same one more turn syndrome as most people, but it also - and it has this in common with grand strategy and Minecraft - just sucks my life because most of that time isn't exactly spent in rapture but is more spent in a state of zombification. There's always another minor task to finish. What I like is gardening my city (to borrow that faggy "national gardening" phrase from Victoria 3). What I don't like is the game running by so fast that I've put down just a city or two before it's the Middle Ages.

I think the steampunk age sounds really gay, but otherwise I like the idea of big historical events being rendered into triggerable events, like Black Deaths and Reformations and such. I'd kind of like it if more of these sort of games had the ages be strictly based on technology (probably defined in relation first to metals and then power generation). A "Renaissance" or "Enlightenment" is meaningless unless your culture is actually having one, right?

So the ages would be things like Stone, Bronze, Iron, maybe Alchemy (distilling isn't some mega invention like electricity, but it's a way to try and distinguish the Middle Ages), Gunpowder, Steam, Electrical, and things usually go with Atomic after that, but I think computing is actually way more significant than nuclear power, so Information.

There's no rule, after all, that says you only get one unit upgrade per age. Or that ages couldn't be subdivided into phases. T

I haven't played Old World, but I suspect I'd like it a heck of a lot more. The grand all-encompassing scope of Civilization sounds nice, but it means it's never able to deliver on it well (it's just always this weird board game, this meaningless jumble of real world place names and ideas with no connection to one another, behold my great Buddhist French Great Pyramid on the banks of the Arkansas River). What I'd really like to see (won't happen, nobody appreciates this period) is the same 4X style in New World colonization with Indian civilizations, Indian tribes, and European colonies. It's the only other setting where it makes sense, historically, to have players be exploring and building from nothing. I've also wanted a grand strategy for that. I have notes on what kind of content it could have; mechanically, Imperator Rome is the most suitable for a mod. One of the most interesting challenges, but I think fully do-able, is representing what it's like to be spirit of the nation for a stateless society. (My answer is that you have character management where instead of playing a lord with vassals, your choices for actions are constrained to what your chiefs want to do, with not acting potentially handing the decision to the computer, and so you want to execute decisions in combinations that get you the best outcomes and mitigate damage from the chiefs doing retarded things on their own/infighting.)





Anybody listen to that Rosencreutz wanker? He was shilling Victoria 3 like it's actually super good stuff. Has lots of long, rambly videos where he overthinks how these sort of games depict history. Which is my main interest with them.
 
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Anybody listen to that Rosencreutz wanker? He was shilling Victoria 3 like it's actually super good stuff. Has lots of long, rambly videos where he overthinks how these sort of games depict history. Which is my main interest with them.
https://www.youtube.com/@Rosencreutzzz
I do. I agree he is a bit of a wanker, but I like (many of) his videos. He puts thought into them and they tend to have a strong basis in serious historiographic thinking. You might not agree with some/all of the academic ideas he focuses on (I certainly raise at eyebrow at some of the things he subscribes to), but for the most part he's very rigorous for vidya content attempting to popularize academic history. He's certainly overthinks things, but that's kind of the point.

Objectively speaking, he certainly did not shill Victoria 3. Some of his videos about it came out before release. He might praise certain aspects of the game's design, but he isn't really a game reviewer. He just uses the games to talk about history. Or at least that covers most of the videos I've seen. Anyway, I say he isn't a shill because with that label you'd think he'd be saying 'this game is the best, fuck the haters, it's revolutionary'. From what I recall the furthest he goes is saying this design choice of V3 is more accurate/engages in a more interesting way with history than said aspect of V2.

I haven't watched all his videos and I see there's a newish one about 3 Genders in Fire Emblem so I'm sure there's plenty to disagree with, but I like him.
 
I do. I agree he is a bit of a wanker, but I like (many of) his videos. He puts thought into them and they tend to have a strong basis in serious historiographic thinking. You might not agree with some/all of the academic ideas he focuses on (I certainly raise at eyebrow at some of the things he subscribes to), but for the most part he's very rigorous for vidya content attempting to popularize academic history. He's certainly overthinks things, but that's kind of the point.

Objectively speaking, he certainly did not shill Victoria 3. Some of his videos about it came out before release. He might praise certain aspects of the game's design, but he isn't really a game reviewer. He just uses the games to talk about history. Or at least that covers most of the videos I've seen. Anyway, I say he isn't a shill because with that label you'd think he'd be saying 'this game is the best, fuck the haters, it's revolutionary'. From what I recall the furthest he goes is saying this design choice of V3 is more accurate/engages in a more interesting way with history than said aspect of V2.

I haven't watched all his videos and I see there's a newish one about 3 Genders in Fire Emblem so I'm sure there's plenty to disagree with, but I like him.
To clarify, I like his history lecturing. I meant, my main enjoyment of Paradox isn't actually playing this garbage, it's thinking about how we model human societies in games1. I like cliodynamics; kind of too aimless in my real work to get anywhere, but I like the idea of it. His Victoria review made me immediately skeptical, but I also had it on as background noise. Plan to listen to more of him.

He did make Victoria's political system sound much better. To me the big, crucial flaw of Victoria III was that its retarded Marxist class-based approach didn't actually add anything (since classes already had a natural tendency to certain ideologies in Victoria II anyways, it felt more organic) while dumbing it down too much. They could have used the idea of ideologies to make the system more granular (maybe killed off the different support levels for different policies, and just had ideologies be traits the Pops pick up on top of their big-I Ideology). But everything else about the political system looked like a huge improvement.
 
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I do think Millennia has a pretty good list of civs. Don't have a list of it, but when it comes down to it, there is only really space for a set of European cultures that have more or less existed and been important in some form since the Dark Ages, Greece-Egypt-Persia-Rome (you rarely see Italians due to Rome), Japan and America (for distinctiveness and relevance to the 20th Century), some shitty token African civ that's almost always Zulu (although Mali and Ethiopia deserve it more), Aztecs (rarely Inca) and POSSIBLY a North American tribe that will usually be Iroquois or Sioux (because people have awful taste), and maybe a Mesopotamian civ. Lately people shoehorn in a shitty Latin American civ (probably Brazil).

Last I recall from booting up the demo, that was basically what Millennia had.

Shame you never see Poland come stock in these things. I feel like they had a good enough run but are underappreciated. Likewise the Dutch. And Celts always, even in ancient games, get stiffed despite having once spanned almost all of Europe.
 
First dev diary dropped for EUIV 1.37 and the next DLC: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...ary-27th-of-february-roadmap-to-1-37.1625239/

Basically just a roadmap of what they plan, but seems like a weird choice to have American + European + Central Asian shit all in the same DLC. Lots of speculation from the playerbase that this might be hinting towards EU5 finally coming, the idea being the devs are basically touching up the last major missing shit before sunsetting the game.
 
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Speaking of disappointing sequels, I hate what they've done to Prison Architect. I hate the artstyle (it reminds me of those Kroger commercials I despise), I hate the fact that it's censored (rated T for just a few things instead of M for a laundry list), and I hate that it looks like just basically 3D without any major improvements...and it will be with DLC in mind, instead of a later feature.

 
Speaking of disappointing sequels, I hate what they've done to Prison Architect. I hate the artstyle (it reminds me of those Kroger commercials I despise), I hate the fact that it's censored (rated T for just a few things instead of M for a laundry list), and I hate that it looks like just basically 3D without any major improvements...and it will be with DLC in mind, instead of a later feature.

Yeah I had zero interest in this. Between how PA was utterly mismanaged once PDX bought them and how utterly sterile this looks... well, good luck, Paradox lol.
 
I didn't get around to playing it during NextFest, but looking at videos of Millenium, I just can't get over how goddamn ugly it is. I don't think it's any exaggeration to say it looks like a mobile title, every aspect of the UI screams it. The first time I saw combat play out, with the units sliding around and the fucking palisade gate opening and closing when the defenders attack, I just busted out laughing. The gameplay seems serviceable, but I really can't see this thing having enough longevity to justify a season pass and all.
 
I bought Stellaris during last years Steam winter sale. Then I remembered it has $306 worth of DLC.

I really hate when games have a bunch of super expensive DLC's. The base game is from 2016 and it cost $40. But the amount of DLC and the pricing is pretty fucking criminal.
 
I bought Stellaris during last years Steam winter sale. Then I remembered it has $306 worth of DLC.

I really hate when games have a bunch of super expensive DLC's. The base game is from 2016 and it cost $40. But the amount of DLC and the pricing is pretty fucking criminal.
They just announced a subscription option, 10 euros a month. Still seems like a ripoff though.
 
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HaHahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is DLC Buying Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Steam Like Nigga Use Russian Websites Haha

I still buy the base games (on sale) because I enjoy easy access to mods and consider it worth £10 of Pesos, however anyone whaling for the DLCs or being complete cattle subscribing to a fucking txt file that enables events/mission trees is objectively sub 90 IQ/has literal Stockholm syndrome.
 
HaHahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is DLC Buying Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Steam Like Nigga Use Russian Websites Haha

I still buy the base games (on sale) because I enjoy easy access to mods and consider it worth £10 of Pesos, however anyone whaling for the DLCs or being complete cattle subscribing to a fucking txt file that enables events/mission trees is objectively sub 90 IQ/has literal Stockholm syndrome.
No thanks. I would rather not have my PC fucked up with viruses and shit.

Also try not talking like a nigger.
 
when it comes down to it, there is only really space for a set of European cultures that have more or less existed and been important in some form since the Dark Ages
I think Humankind had a good idea with the evolution through the ages thing but they should have made it so that you chose a base civilisation at the first era and you branched off from there,
But the amount of DLC and the pricing is pretty fucking criminal.
CreamAPI is your friend, friend.
 
Another option is to pirate/use a repacker for the whole game instead of using a DLC unlocker. I used Fitgirl which I'm able to use the paradox launcher and steam mods with, but there's also Dodi repacks, which I haven't used so idk if it can also do that but it probably does.
 
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I think Humankind had a good idea with the evolution through the ages thing but they should have made it so that you chose a base civilisation at the first era and you branched off from there,

CreamAPI is your friend, friend.
Again, I would rather not fuck my PC up with viruses/malware. I will just wait for sales and pick the DLC's up a few at time. It's just less work and stress for me.
 
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