They needed to up the decadence factor for islamists by a factor of three to ten times to make the system work right, almost never would I see islamic empires collapse. They would always linger around for the entire playtime which was annoying as fuck.
Very rarely, but usually no.
I think something Paradox needs to seriously consider is the idea of just eliminating religion as an exclusive, hierarchially-sorted category.
I heard an interesting idea for a hypothetical theocracy DLC that fielded the argument that the dynastic gameplay only needs to be metaphorical, and the natural equivalent of a dynasty within the Catholic Church is a monastic order. So the unit of gameplay should be chapters and orders of the Templars, Hospitallers, Teutonics, Livonians, Franciscans, Benedictines, etc, with Monasteries as their local branches analogous to republican trading posts, which in those days were huge centers of proto-capitalist economic activity too. Even the non-militarized monastic orders have a massive amount of capital they control. They really are just republics on land.
I remember reading that post back on the Paradox forums. It was a good one, a shame they never implemented it.
oy vey, goyim
It was too on the nose so they wound up going with Devil Worshippers instead
I was thinking about posting this but somehow I doubt there are enough ck2 chads to spur interest compared to vic2 chads
Honestly why didnt they just make the Templars, or any other holy order, like the Assassins? Which are pretty OP if you become the highest level in the society, being able to spawn a good chunk of men for society power. The entire Society system in CK2 is lame if youre a Christian. Hordes are able to spawn population out of thin air, pagans are able to be these badass warriors with 100+ combat skill. Islamists have the Assassins like I said. But christians (and Buddhists I almost forgot) just get to be goobers that get a bonus in learning or bonus in stweardship and a hit to your fertility. Satanists are also cool as a society but kindof lackluster in terms of actual events, like the rest of the non pagan societies.
Lame, perhaps, but the Benedictine and Dominican bonuses are really good for stability. Insta-converting provinces is great for bypassing the atrocious conversion mechanic while you can nab all the virtues easily in the benedictines, teach them to your close family and help get rid of their vices. It's great for giving you really strong characters and holding together a large realm by having a bunch of competent ais that like you and are disinclined to scheme.
I think the single biggest thing holding CK back from having the best of all worlds is the adherence to the damn holding and county system. It makes many aspects of medieval politics just not exist on map and makes many elements just artificially unchanging.
To be fair this is more of a fault of Paradox just going with what they knew best with how they draw maps than genuine oversight. Granted, if they went with something like a Koei strategy where there's a bunch of locations on the map that characters and armies have to physically travel between on roads and the provinces are just a political layer it probably would have worked better. It is crazy to me that despite having the beginning of the Hundred Years War be the final start date Paradox never figured out a way to make dual-fealties work, so something as small as holding a de-jure barony in another kingdom is enough to spark a retard war.
They are getting there with EU5 at least.
I completely forgot about this feature lmao, I think I only ever used it during my Outremer run, and when I did Nestorian India run.
god, what a blessed and based run
cursed and forsaken, what the fuck, saaaar?
Blessed and Based? Yes. Tiring and Frustrating? Also, yes.
I only tried it out of curiosity, for some reason in some of the earlier start dates (or maybe only the earliest start date I can't remember for sure,) one county in the very south west tip of India starts with a Nestorian county, which I'm sure is wholly ahistorical but I wanted to see how far I could get. I want to say within my first couple of runs I had the lower third of India conquered in a couple hundred years, it helps too that the Indian AI is pretty docile, if thats the word for it.
There was (and to a degree still is) a community of eastern Christians called the St Thomas Christians in southwestern India, also called the Nasrani. Used to know one in fact, though he was, funnily enough, pretty contemptuous of Christianity by the time I knew him.
I remember having an absolute blast. A scion of the doomed Carolingian Empire carving an empire truly of their own in the middle east after taking the kingdom of God. The Spanish-French-Italian nobility reigning over the inferior desert peoples. Mending all the christcuck schisms under Catholicism once and for all. It was as history should've gone.
that is fucking weird
That was unbelievably fucking retarded. Why would my Castilian population, who has access to extremely calorie heavy wheat, would be interested in fucking Sturdy Grain (I imagine it being rye?), much less rice when the only way to get that is through trade with the Mamluks. Drove me up the wall.
reminds me of sid meier's civilization where your citizens would demand certain resources that made no sense
