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Could be, I am not sure. All I know is that she passes out if her heart beats too fast (like from anxiety or working out too hard)

Tachycardia. I know because I have it. My case was b/c experimental medication though, not Covid. I take blood pressure meds to handle it and it likely won't cause complications until I'm in my 60s. Depending on how severe her case is, she might not even have any problems until after that.


Jesus Christ how'd this thread get even faggier and madder?

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Tachycardia. I know because I have it. My case was b/c experimental medication though, not Covid. I take blood pressure meds to handle it and it likely won't cause complications until I'm in my 60s. Depending on how severe her case is, she might not even have any problems until after that.
Yeah, she did mention that she's going to have start seeing a cardiologist regularly for checkups because of it.

Sorry man. Hope you stay well
 
I don't disagree, but i'm currently in Texas, a state that was kinda half-assed about COVID preparedness and prevention. Now Houston and Dallas are two of the biggest COVID hotspots south of the Mason-Dixon. Do I think the government shouldn't be able to make sweeping curfew/quarantine laws? hell yeah. Do I believe that quarantining, wearing a mask and not going the fuck outside unless you need to or are willing to accept that you are, indeed, competing for the Darwin Award, is the best idea? Also hell yeah.

Houston . . . Dallas . . . where in Texas were idiots running around a few weeks ago screaming about an asshole who OD'd on street drugs? If your numbers are like elsewhere protests happened, the numbers were higher two weeks ago than last time, am I right? Numbers are probably already going down in both of those cities now.
 
Yeah, she did mention that she's going to have start seeing a cardiologist regularly for checkups because of it.

Sorry man. Hope you stay well

It's' not really that bad. Once the doctor gets her an assessment they'll likely put her on a light regimen while they figure out the proper dosage, then it's one pill every morning. You don't even necessarily need the pills in some cases, either, and cutting some of the salts and fats from your diet can help reduce complications even further. If you're worried about her health, maybe try convincing her to eat a lighter diet. More white meat and less salt, basically.
 
Wait how old is your sister?

Covid-19 is generally less deadly the younger you are.
She's young enough where she isn't high risk. It less deadly when younger, but there's cases of younger people having issues, too. And a recent study has shown some real nasty lingering effects which are somewhat common, which does make sense since it seems to be a blood vessel disease
Wrong. Studies have repeatedly shown that masks don't do shit. Just wash your hands and don't touch strangers.

Citation needed
 
Houston . . . Dallas . . . where in Texas were idiots running around a few weeks ago screaming about an asshole who OD'd on street drugs? If your numbers are like elsewhere protests happened, the numbers were higher two weeks ago than last time, am I right? Numbers are probably already going down in both of those cities now.

Actually, I've been on the streets at the Dallas protests /chimpouts. Most of the people at them wore masks. Dallas had a lot of people pissed off b/c Judge Clay made it a city ordinance that all businesses had to turn away people that weren't wearing masks in Dallas County, and people got pissed about that.

IDK about Dallas, but Houston's rates are rising steadily.

EDIT: Dallas' rates are slowly falling. There was a small hike over the past two months but it's falling again.


Wrong. Studies have repeatedly shown that masks don't do shit. Just wash your hands and don't touch strangers.
She's young enough where she isn't high risk. It less deadly when younger, but there's cases of younger people having issues, too. And a recent study has shown some real nasty lingering effects which are somewhat common, which does make sense since it seems to be a blood vessel disease


Citation needed

They do help slow the spread, just not for the reason people think it does. Wearing a mask keeps your air particles from spreading out as far as they do when you're not wearing a mask. If you don't clean your mask regularly it's not gonna stop YOU from catching Covid, but it's gonna consistently keep your infected saliva from spreading around the area you're in. It's why sick people in Japan / Korea almost always wear masks, since they can't exactly take a sick day but don't want to infect their coworkers.
 
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Sometimes, it's just good to fuck off, bro.

You know when he rates a post in an A&H thread, you know what's gonna happen, so you might as well do your best and just fuck off the thread he's lookin' at and not take the worm bait. I can argue with people I disagree with in an orderly fashion, I can't to someone who'll call me a cultist or simp for someone when I'm looking at a situation objectively.
People like that don't make real arguments, they are synthetic and sound. When he tries to compose an ontology he accurizes the token and "dum-dums" the converse. When you have an IQ of 200 like he does you can really make deductive half-cock Khyber Pass copies to improve the iron length of the necessary.
 
Most of the people at them wore masks.
From what you've seen so far, which is anecdotal (and limited) evidence.

I don't think that proves anything regardless, given how the people at these protests/riots often ignore every other Covid-19 guideline ("social distancing", etc.).

I'm also pretty sure that Covid-19 can still spread in spite of masks, especially given the chaos that went on in those protests.
 
Could be, I am not sure. All I know is that she passes out if her heart beats too fast (like from anxiety or working out too hard)
Tachycardia. She's gonna be prescribed beta blockers for a while, tell her she shouldn't expect to be able to perform her usual amounts of physical activity for a while. The beta blockers will slow down her heart rate and also will stop it increasing; she'll feel exhausted far sooner than she usually would because of the pills slowing her heart and preventing it from speeding up..
 
From what you've seen so far, which is anecdotal (and limited) evidence.

I don't think that proves anything regardless, given how the people at these protests/riots often ignore every other Covid-19 guideline ("social distancing", etc.).

I'm also pretty sure that Covid-19 can still spread in spite of masks, especially given the chaos that went on in those protests.

The Dallas protests were almost entirely peaceful. My 'anecdotal' evidence is only a limited experience, as I could only be at one protest per day, but I went to as many as I could. Had to. I was writing about it.

Masks are one of the more effective ways to prevent the spread of infection , not infection itself. It's a nice thing to do if you're not sick, but I'd argue you only NEED to do it if you are sick. The best prevention is to keep your distance and sanitize regularly.
 
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Citation needed

How convenient you never cite sources for your bullshit, but demand everyone else does.

If masks were so effective, they would have been recommended the entire time, particularly since the recommendation is basically "any piece of fabric". I'm sorry, but you can't ask people to follow anything that Fauci has to say. He has been wrong about everything every step of the way, and this isn't his first rodeo that he fucked up. He dropped the ball during the early spread of GRIDS by refusing to acknowledge the primary demographics and working to protect those populations while instead working on spreading fear and misinformation.

Keep clinging to your Bill Nye-tier performers.


Right, but these morons were in close proximity of each other, passing around megaphones and signs, and many of them were Black. And Coronavirus is passed via surfaces, so as soon as people started touching the same things the masks were pointless.
 
From what you've seen so far, which is anecdotal (and limited) evidence.

I don't think that proves anything regardless, given how the people at these protests/riots often ignore every other Covid-19 guideline ("social distancing", etc.).

I'm also pretty sure that Covid-19 can still spread in spite of masks, especially given the chaos that went on in those protests.
Well the mask itself is just a moot point. If you're still touching your face, rubbing your hands all over stuff, pulling the mask down or getting into sweaty slap-fights with other people, the mask is absolutely fucking pointless. If you're not adhering to proper PPE then you might as well not even bother wearing one, and if you go out in public and look at the average person, they spend every other second touching crap all around the room and then rubbing that all over the mask when they adjust it every half-second.

They help, absolutely, in the same way that a box of matches can help you start a fire, but if you're going to soak the logs in water, dump dirt all over the tinder, mash it all into mud and then throw that in the river, the matches aren't going to fucking help that much anymore. If people won't adhere to PPE then that mask is barely anything more than a placebo.
 
How convenient you never cite sources for your bullshit, but demand everyone else does.

If masks were so effective, they would have been recommended the entire time, particularly since the recommendation is basically "any piece of fabric". I'm sorry, but you can't ask people to follow anything that Fauci has to say. He has been wrong about everything every step of the way, and this isn't his first rodeo that he fucked up. He dropped the ball during the early spread of GRIDS by refusing to acknowledge the primary demographics and working to protect those populations while instead working on spreading fear and misinformation.

Keep clinging to your Bill Nye-tier performers.

Does UCSF medical school count as sources? https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/4...s-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

Why did the CDC change its guidance on wearing masks?
The original CDC guidance partly was based on what was thought to be low disease prevalence earlier in the pandemic, said Chin-Hong.

“So, of course, you’re preaching that the juice isn’t really worth the squeeze to have the whole population wear masks in the beginning – but that was really a reflection of not having enough testing, anyway,” he said. “We were getting a false sense of security.”

Rutherford was more blunt. The legitimate concern that the limited supply of surgical masks and N95 respirators should be saved for health care workers should not have prevented more nuanced messaging about the benefits of masking. “We should have told people to wear cloth masks right off the bat,” he said.

Another factor “is that culturally, the U.S. wasn’t really prepared to wear masks,” unlike some countries in Asia where the practice is more common, said Chin-Hong. Even now, some Americans are choosing to ignore CDC guidance and local mandates on masks, a hesitation that Chin-Hong says is “foolhardy.”

What may have finally convinced the CDC to change its guidance in favor of masks were rising disease prevalence and a clearer understanding that both pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic transmission are possible – even common. Studies have found that viral load peaks in the days before symptoms begin and that speaking is enough to expel virus-carrying droplets.

“I think the biggest thing with COVID now that shapes all of this guidance on masks is that we can’t tell who’s infected,” said Chin-Hong. “You can’t look in a crowd and say, oh, that person should wear mask. There’s a lot of asymptomatic infection, so everybody has to wear a mask.”

What evidence do we have that wearing a mask is effective in preventing COVID-19?
There are several strands of evidence supporting the efficacy of masks.

One category of evidence comes from laboratory studies of respiratory droplets and the ability of various masks to block them. An experiment using high-speed video found that hundreds of droplets ranging from 20 to 500 micrometers were generated when saying a simple phrase, but that nearly all these droplets were blocked when the mouth was covered by a damp washcloth. Another study of people who had influenza or the common cold found that wearing a surgical mask significantly reduced the amount of these respiratory viruses emitted in droplets and aerosols.

But the strongest evidence in favor of masks come from studies of real-world scenarios. “The most important thing are the epidemiologic data,” said Rutherford. Because it would be unethical to assign people to not wear a mask during a pandemic, the epidemiological evidence has come from so-called “experiments of nature.”

A recent study published in Health Affairs, for example, compared the COVID-19 growth rate before and after mask mandates in 15 states and the District of Columbia. It found that mask mandates led to a slowdown in daily COVID-19 growth rate, which became more apparent over time. The first five days after a mandate, the daily growth rate slowed by 0.9 percentage-points compared to the five days prior to the mandate; at three weeks, the daily growth rate had slowed by 2 percentage-points.

Another study looked at coronavirus deaths across 198 countries and found that those with cultural norms or government policies favoring mask-wearing had lower death rates.

Two compelling case reports also suggest that masks can prevent transmission in high-risk scenarios, said Chin-Hong and Rutherford. In one case, a man flew from China to Toronto and subsequently tested positive for COVID-19. He had a dry cough and wore a mask on the flight, and all 25 people closest to him on the flight tested negative for COVID-19. In another case, in late May, two hair stylists in Missouri had close contact with 140 clients while sick with COVID-19. Everyone wore a mask and none of the clients tested positive.

Do masks protect the people wearing them or the people around them?
“I think there’s enough evidence to say that the best benefit is for people who have COVID-19 to protect them from giving COVID-19 to other people, but you’re still going to get a benefit from wearing a mask if you don’t have COVID-19,” said Chin-Hong.

Masks may be more effective as a “source control” because they can prevent larger expelled droplets from evaporating into smaller droplets that can travel farther.

Another factor to remember, noted Rutherford, is that you could still catch the virus through the membranes in your eyes, a risk that masking does not eliminate.

Your turn, boyo

And Bill Nye is a dork who needs to go away
 
Well the mask itself is just a moot point. If you're still touching your face, rubbing your hands all over stuff, pulling the mask down or getting into sweaty slap-fights with other people, the mask is absolutely fucking pointless. If you're not adhering to proper PPE then you might as well not even bother wearing one, and if you go out in public and look at the average person, they spend every other second touching crap all around the room and then rubbing that all over the mask when they adjust it every half-second.

They help, absolutely, in the same way that a box of matches can help you start a fire, but if you're going to soak the logs in water, dump dirt all over the tinder, mash it all into mud and then throw that in the river, the matches aren't going to fucking help that much anymore. If people won't adhere to PPE then that mask is barely anything more than a placebo.

Yeah. Some of the protests were more 'civil' stuff like city cleanup and homeless outreach / camping in front of city hall, and those were the ones that did more social distancing and proper sanitation. It's very hard to coordinate a socially distanced march. I don't deny that a few of Dallas' cases are probably from protestors, but when I accompanied the marchers I noticed not many of the bystanders were wearing masks most of the time. Dallas just didn't take it seriously b/c we believed that business / economy shit was more important than being healthy.
 
The Dallas protests were almost entirely peaceful.
That doesn't necessarily mean that it was following every Covid guideline though, such as (IIRC) the one against large, crowded gatherings.

My 'anecdotal' evidence is only a limited experience, as I could only be at one protest per day, but I went to as many as I could. Had to. I was writing about it.
So you're a journalist of some sort? What paper do you write for?
 
An experiment using high-speed video found that hundreds of droplets ranging from 20 to 500 micrometers were generated when saying a simple phrase, but that nearly all these droplets were blocked when the mouth was covered by a damp washcloth.

Commence waterboarding!
 
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