Patrick W. Gilmore (he/him) is a fan of censorship of the internet - Also allegedly a massive sucker of tranny cock

I don't know Patrick very well but I did meet him once durning a professional randuve with his wife Jezzibell Gilmore, CCO of Connectbase. Our appointment took place in an executive suite at the Four Season's in Boston, MA. Though Patrick didn't say much he contently sat in the corner of our room for the entire 30 minutes of his wife and my transaction.
 
Even attempting to 'Build your own X' will lead to you and people like you attempting to firewall, deny, degrade, and outright sabotage an individual or group from successfully 'Building your own X'.
For people who always seem to nod and agree when others claim that problems are “systemic”, they sure do like insinuating that some people can just go build their own system.
 
Every. Single. Time.
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Null also said if there was a legal backbone to prevent ISPs from even having this power, they could just point to the law and say "my hands are tied" to obsessed freaks like Dong-Gone.
I would bet actual money that, in such a case, Dong-Gone would drive other customers from the ISPs and bankrupt them, simply out of spite. The man is crazy enough to burn vital infrastructure to the ground to hide his own misdeeds.
 
So for example, there's only so much space on broadcast frequencies, so even if you get a license to broadcast, the state has far more power to regulate what you say (because you're being given a limited resource from the community) and that's a constitutionally valid restriction on the first amendment.
My personal opinion is it isn't, and hope that the current SCOTUS actually does revisit Chevron deference and find that the FCC's often viewpoint-based discrimination is not constitutional. I don't think that agency should have any more power than what is strictly necessary to ensure that users of broadcast frequencies aren't trampling on each other's signals, and what type of signals get what frequencies.
 
The state law is a clear violation of the 1st amendment.
"Noooo stalker chiiiiild, 1A only protects speech made against the government not private enterprise, you may noooot use it to be offensive!"
"Noooo stalker chiiiiild, providers can freely censor any private enterprise they want because it's their 1A right, it does noooot matter if it offends you!"
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Third world should have no bearing on any society that matters.
The day we begin listening to the whinning petty kings who call themselves "presidents" will be the day when reasonable thought ends.
let me guess, you have a HILARIOUS shiba inu cartoon PFP on Twitter for your NAFO stan account
But that's what you get with American-style Libertarianism. Build your own platform.
yes, that's why all humans hate americans/libertarians (pedophiles)
 
My personal opinion is it isn't, and hope that the current SCOTUS actually does revisit Chevron deference and find that the FCC's often viewpoint-based discrimination is not constitutional. I don't think that agency should have any more power than what is strictly necessary to ensure that users of broadcast frequencies aren't trampling on each other's signals, and what type of signals get what frequencies.
I can see that position, and it's one I'd trend to instinctively. Although isn't there the concern that one powerful group could buy up all the broadcast frequencies in an area and monopolize it all?

Like for mediums without scarcity like newspapers or websites, unfettered free speech is hard to argue against. Just start your own newsletter.

But you don't think that with frequencies the scarcity might merit some kind of regulation? (beyond just technical regulations)
 
1A only protects speech made against the government not private enterprise
A good litigation specialist can document all the ways the US government has subsidized the internet/fiber/cable/broadband and make the case it has been a common carrier for nigh over two decades; the problem isn't the law, it's finding someone with the skills and funds to take this on.

You could argue its akin to when Roosevelt set out to bring electricity to rural America, or like when Eisenhower created the interstate highways. You could not, and would not want to deny the use of these to someone because Tennessee doesn't want dangerhairs driving on their portion of I-40 or Iowa doesn't want rural skinheads using electricity to watch their favorite band on cable.

I'd start with Heart of Atlanta Motel Inc v United States and go from there.
 
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Nigger not one single company that I'm aware of has ever provided a real explanation of what content is a problem and what should be done about it, which is the most basic form of remedying a supposed breach of contract, which is what an "AUP violation" is.
That's why I'm kinda sorta looking forward to LFJ's next target? With KF, all the carriers seem to just be on autopilot - "Oh, so and so blocked it? Sure we can do that" and nobody's really looking into why. Once other sites start getting dropped/blocked/seized (domain name seizure is truly extraordinary... at least, it's supposed to be?) "because KiwiFarms" isn't going to cut it and I think the whole stinking thing might get some much-needed sunlight.
 
I can see that position, and it's one I'd trend to instinctively. Although isn't there the concern that one powerful group could buy up all the broadcast frequencies in an area and monopolize it all?
That's more of a market issue than a content issue. Preventing that kind of thing is sort of the point of allocating frequencies in the first place and, for instance, limiting the signal power so you don't have giant radio stations that drown out everything within 100+ miles and you can hear them in your teeth braces and on a barbed wire fence (like some of the super size Mexican radio stations).
 
That's more of a market issue than a content issue. Preventing that kind of thing is sort of the point of allocating frequencies in the first place and, for instance, limiting the signal power so you don't have giant radio stations that drown out everything within 100+ miles and you can hear them in your teeth braces and on a barbed wire fence (like some of the super size Mexican radio stations).
Yeah, that makes sense.

Afterwards I was thinking of a more concrete example of the problem I was thinking of, and I thought of political groups renting out or requesting access to city facilities.

Like let's say some political group wanted to use the park. I do agree that once they get their permit, they should be unrestrained in what they say there (noise ordinances and blah blah blah aside).

But what if some hippies then decide never to permit that again, and then take it upon themselves to reserve the park continuously from then on. Or maybe just at the best times. (Kind of a contrived example, but you get the idea.)

I agree that content is a bad standard to use, but I just think that there's room for fuckery.

I guess what I'm saying is that there's a better argument for government intervention when the market narrows with public resources like that. I don't know what the solution is though. Or I don't know, there's probably some conservative radio stations around me and I just don't pay attention to them, and the FCC's approach to licensing currently works just fine.

On the other hand, if it's a wide-open market, I think there's zero argument for government intervention.

But to get back to my original point: things like ISPs are in a narrower market than newspapers and individual websites. They have to argue harder to make a first amendment argument to deny people service. Don't get me wrong, I don't think this should be a handwavy excuse to start nationalizing stuff. But still, at the extreme end, when we're talking a T1 bandwidth provider (the largest global IP network, in fact) I'm not really sympathetic to the first amendment argument. They run cables, they aren't selling teddy bears to sick kids. (or selling dilators to trannies, to bring this back to the subject matter)

(Edit: Well, and more than just "narrower market", but also one with a lot of government intervention. Running cables is difficult without a lot of government help.)

Comcast has a contractual monopoly from the city of Baltimore on cable tv. This has more or less trickled down to cable internet as well. If they started blocking KF, I'd want the city to take action and I think they'd have a good argument to do so.
 
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'X' in this case was funded with government grants over the course of decades to incentivize private entities to build the underlying infrastructure of the internet. Build your own 'X' is a useless platitude designed to create so many barriers that it effectively censors anything you do not like. Even attempting to 'Build your own X' will lead to you and people like you attempting to firewall, deny, degrade, and outright sabotage an individual or group from successfully 'Building your own X'.

Payment Processors, TLDs, ISPs from a home ISP to a giant backbone ISP are 'X'. Even putting aside the insurmountable challenge of creating an analogue to the Internet, not to mention the bureaucracy that was implemented to prevent this from occurring and as a result create a natural monopoly of five or six companies with the capital needed to build and operate such a system.
Thank you for illustrating for everyone how Libertarianism is retarded.
 
Thank you for illustrating for everyone how Libertarianism is retarded.
Needing government grants and government-backed easements that determine who is able to have the monopoly is not libertarianism lmao. Now that you say this, we should destroy their infrastructure and have them build it WITHOUT help from "we the people" since they refuse to service legal websites. Thanks for the idea! Maybe if it's done in an ACTUAL libertarian way, there will be more incentive to not pull this crap since it's their money, not the government's, on the line.
 
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