UN Philippines will go to war with China if it crosses ‘red lines’ and claims disputed resources

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...pines-rodrigo-duterte-will-go-war-china-if-it

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The Philippines has warned China that it will go to war over natural resources in the South China Sea – and it identified other “red lines”, or actions, Manila would find unacceptable, the foreign ministry said on Monday.

Foreign Secretary Alan Peter Cayetano said that among the territorial issues discussed with China were construction activities at a disputed shoal and the unilateral extraction of oil and gas in the South China Sea.

“Nobody can extract natural resources there on their own,” Cayetano said. “The president has declared that. If anyone gets the natural resources in the West Philippine Sea-South China Sea, he will go to war.”

Critics and left-wing groups have slammed President Rodrigo Duterte for not publicly raising the alarm over recent Chinese actions, including the reported installation of missile defence systems on its newly constructed islands.

They say he should demand immediate Chinese compliance with a 2016 arbitration court ruling that invalidated Beijing’s expansive claims in the South China Sea and upheld the Philippines’ sovereign rights to exploit resources in vast stretches of waters off its western coast.

“For those who keep saying, ‘File a protest, file a protest,’ what do we mean when we said, ‘We are taking all diplomatic actions’?” Cayetano said in a flag-raising ceremony at the Department of Foreign Affairs on Monday.

“At the right time, we will prove you wrong because nothing is secret forever,” Cayetano said. “When we declassify all of these, once we have achieved our purposes in the future, you will see that the DFA has not fallen short in filing whatever diplomatic action, note verbale, verbal protest.”

After Duterte appointed him as the country’s top diplomat last year, Cayetano said the Philippines and China had discussed the thorny territorial issues, including actions that each deemed unacceptable.

For the Philippines, these included any Chinese construction at disputed Scarborough Shoal or Chinese efforts to remove a rusty Philippine navy ship used by Filipino marines as a detachment in another contested outcrop, Second Thomas Shoal.

“Filipino troops should not be harassed while on resupply missions or when repairing [facilities] like a runway,” he said.

China has told the Philippines that there should be no new occupation of uninhabited areas under a 2002 accord and “we should not embarrass each other in front of all, in all multilaterals and bilaterals”, he said.

After taking power nearly two years ago, Duterte declared he would chart a foreign policy not highly oriented toward the United States, the country’s treaty ally. He took steps to revive frosty ties with Beijing while seeking to boost Chinese trade, investment and infrastructure funds.

Cayetano has staunchly defended the tough-talking president, including his deadly crackdown on illegal drugs.

“It is not the policy of this administration to engage in megaphone or microphone diplomacy, and announce each and every action, unless announcing it is beneficial to us,” Cayetano said.

Filipino fishermen have been accosted by China in the past but have been allowed back to Scarborough Shoal’s area to fish.

The shoal’s vast lagoon has been declared off limits to all fishermen to nurture fishery stocks, and a coastguard agreement now allows vessels to enter the lagoon for safety in stormy weather, Cayetano said.

Critics say Duterte’s approach has emboldened China, which has been increasingly assertive in the potentially oil- and gas-rich waterway that’s also claimed entirely or in part by Vietnam, Malaysia, Taiwan and Brunei.
 
This may seem like a tiny country threatening a superpower, but I think many people overestimate China's naval power (nearly nonexistent) and underestimate the Philippines' interest in not having tons of their shit stolen by chinks.
 
This may seem like a tiny country threatening a superpower, but I think many people overestimate China's naval power (nearly nonexistent) and underestimate the Philippines' interest in not having tons of their shit stolen by chinks.
China's naval power is laughable in the face of America's Pacific Fleet alone, but so is every other nation in the world. China's navy is to the Flip navy what the American navy is to China. They have a (shitty) aircraft carrier, plenty of (stolen copies of) destroyers, even some decent nuclear subs. The Philippines have...3 frigates, 10 corvettes, and a bunch of WW2 tank landing ships.
 
I hope these animals don't find a way to get Western nations caught up in their exceptional shit. The US has a mutual defense treaty with the Philippines, but that shouldn't apply if they start shit with China.

They're not "starting shit" with China when China is literally invading their territory and stealing shit.

China has what might be the second strongest navy in the world right now.

https://www.military.com/defensetec...hinese-navys-fleet-will-outnumber-u-s-by-2020

Nice exaggerated, alarmist bullshit.
 
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Philippines to disclose diplomatic actions 'at the right time'

Patricia Lourdes Viray (philstar.com) - May 28, 2018 - 6:15pm

MANILA, Philippines — Amid calls to file a diplomatic protest against China's militarization of the South China Sea, the Philippine government justified its position not to engage in "megaphone or microphone" diplomacy.

Last week, the Department of Foreign Affairs released a statement that actions have been taken to address China's landing of an H-6K bomber on Woody Island in the Paracel chain in the South China Sea.


The Philippine government, however, did not directly call out China for its recent actions in the disputed South China Sea, unlike Vietnam which asked Beijing to withdraw military equipment from the South China Sea.

Foreign Affairs Secretary Alan Peter Cayetano insisted that the DFA is doing its job in defending the country's claims over the contested waters.

'Nothing is secret forever'
"For those who keep saying, 'File a protest, file protest,' what do they think we meant when we said, 'We are taking all diplomatic actions'? At the right time, we will prove you wrong because nothing is secret forever,'" Cayetano said during the flag-raising ceremony at the DFA on Monday.

Cayetano stressed that President Rodrigo Duterte himself had asserted the country's claim over the West Philippine Sea before Chinese Preisdent Xi Jinping.

The DFA secretary said that all actions taken to address China's aggression will be revealed in the future.

"When we declassify all of this, once we have achieved our purposes in the future, you will see that the DFA was not remiss in filing whatever diplomatic action, note verbale, verbal protest, protest that is written, a demarche, discussions," Cayetano said in English and Filipino.

Acting Chief Justice Antonio Carpio earlier said that failure to formally protest China's deployment of a nuclear-capable bomber in the South China Sea means that the Philippines is consenting to militarization in the region.

Carpio warned that Beijing's bomber aircraft could also land and take-off from any of its outposts in the Spratly Islands in the West Philippine Sea.

"Failure to formally protest means the Philippines is acquiescing or consenting to the militarization, and worse, to the claim of China that all the islands, waters and resources within the nine-dashed line form part of Chinese territory," Carpio last week.




Former DFA Secretary Albert del Rosario, meanwhile, called on the Filipino people to take a united and vocal stand in urging the Philippine government to assert the country's claim.

"As we had previously said, we are opposed to war — as we should be. But if threatened by the use of force, we should be ready to inflict, at the very least, a bloody nose on any attacker who is out to harm us," Del Rosario said.
 
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"As we had previously said, we are opposed to war — as we should be. But if threatened by the use of force, we should be ready to inflict, at the very least, a bloody nose on any attacker who is out to harm us," Del Rosario said.

This is a confrontation between a tiny country where the citizens have balls the size of grapefruits and an enormous country where the inhabitants have balls the size of sesame seeds.
 
This is a confrontation between a tiny country where the citizens have balls the size of grapefruits and an enormous country where the inhabitants have balls the size of sesame seeds.

Also reminder that China hasn't managed to win a single direct engagement/battle after their initial push in to Korea in 1951. The Vietnamese pushed back over 14 divisions of Chinese armor and infantry with full artillery and air support with nothing more than 4 regular army brigades and a bunch of pissed off farmers and zero outside support. A Vietnamese general even said "When we fought the Americans we assumed we would lose 7 men for every one of theirs. With the Chinese we assumed they'd lose dozens for each of ours."

Between poor training, awful logistical support and a military built around parades instead of war fighting, China really isn't much more than a paper tiger. Their only real X factor is their Navy, and even then its so untested that it's still a coin flip
 
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