Piece of shit software - Crappy software/apps/programs that make you MATI

[ks99]

RetroArch. (Excuse the stupid image that follows.)
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Literally emulator communism, and just like communism, it never fucking works.

If I look at it ever so slightly too much, or if I breathe out a little bit too hard, or if it suddenly wakes up in a bad mood, or perhaps if my actual N64 console has not got the expansion pak inserted, it goes wrong for some reason.

Not to mention that emulators like ProSystem, PicoDrive, the fixed MAME/FBA/Snes9x versions, and Genesis Plus GX insist on forcing people to use this shit and not provide native ports to Win32 or any other platform, and you also have the Redditor shills who just copy things verbatim from the Emulation GameTechWiki website (which prefers to glorify anything available as a libretro core, being FOSS and cycle accurate and shun anything else regardless of whether it actually works better or the authors aren't incompetent commies or whatever).

The netplay also does not fucking work. Even with the ports forwarded on both ends, it has never managed to work.

Most of the libretro ports don't work either or are in a virtually unusable state (the Wii one for instance starts breaking apart after a while of use and the XP/Vista targeting one is not optimised for the hardware target very well at all). Only the Linux one seems to be of any real priority to them, and even then they seem to have absolutely no clue how to label stable releases other than "let's slap a number on this when a date feels convenient".

Also, why is there seemingly an inverse relationship between how sane the usability and straightforwardness of a piece of software is and the more obsessed with "muh freedom" a piece of software is?

Adding to this: the lead dev (TwinAphex/Autechre/Daniel de Matteis) is fucking nuts. He rivals byuu for the honorable title of "autistic emu developer to chimpout most frequently". It's difficult to summarize briefly, but this archived thread has lots for the curious. Keyword: "siggarettenstank":

https://warosu.org/vr/thread/6727142

If you are into animation, you can already work with OpenToonz which is still used into the Ghibli pipeline and its currently free. Tahoma 2D is a version of OpenToonz easier to understand, but the functions are the same. You can also learn Blender and master the Grease Pencil tool which is currently used severely to make masterpieces. Hell, have you got notified that Krita (waaaay better than photoshit) has already launched their 5.0 version with TONS of amazing features not only for digital art, but also for 2d traditional animation.

If you are into vector animation, synfig is probably kinda shitty as its not very appealing I must admit, but... OpenToonz, Krita, Enve, DragonBones Pro, Cavalry. Those are very powerful software that helped. Mostly OpenToonz and Enve when it comes to vector.

As far as for Video editing, I struggled to find some back in 2014. I dont know when you tried the kdenlive software, but it has improved some things along the way, however its not my main software to go. I currently use Hitfilm Express and from time to time Natron when I wanna play with some advanced things. Hitfilm express is such a precious software to me, but... yeah, you have to pay for some bundle effects, but the most important features are already on a plate. I never heard about VSDC (might check it out, but their website looks like it wants to cum virus in my PC)

Now... for vector editing and creation you are kinda limited I have to agree, but Inkscape is the king. I use it too and their latest update is sweet. I even recreated some works I made back when I studied Illustrator and got better. Not gonna show, because this thread is not an art thread. lol, but you get the point.

We are almost in 2022 and we have tons of posibilites and options. I dont even use Microsoft Office. I use LibreOffice and im in love with it. I would say you are pretty FUCKED when it comes to audio and music production. Theres no free path there. Theres always a sacrifice.

God, the free software world of music production sucks ass. We have Dexed and a couple other VST synths worth using, but nothing compared to the realm of expensive shit from companies like Arturia and Roland. Roland even has a SUBSCRIPTION for their VSTs, like what the fuck? Get nuked you fucking nips. I can't even recommend pirating much music related because for some reason, the music production related torrents are still stuck with 2005 levels of computer AIDS when the rest of the warez community has moved on to being arguably less bad for your PC than much of the legitimate copies of software. Good luck finding a torrent of that one VST you want that emulates an old synth; if you do, you're almost certainly getting AIDS anyway.

 

[Sketch Turner]

Adding to this: the lead dev (TwinAphex/Autechre/Daniel de Matteis) is fucking nuts. He rivals byuu for the honorable title of "autistic emu developer to chimpout most frequently". It's difficult to summarize briefly, but this archived thread has lots for the curious. Keyword: "siggarettenstank":
https://warosu.org/vr/thread/6727142

At least byuu coded something that works for more than two minutes without spazzing out. I dunno, as degenerate as he became, at least he used the side of his autism that society actually care about - that which can make a viable product - pretty well, which is better than a lot of others in the same scene...

Edit: Holy shit that thread is as much of a trainwreck as an actual trainwreck.

 

[JoseRaulChupacabra]

All 3d software in general. To be fair, attempting to work in 3d space in a 2d monitor is really asking for trouble.

Maya: bloated mess, every year, it takes longer and longer to start up. For being the Industry Standard™ it's out of the box modelling tools are quite shitty. Prone to crashing.

3DS Max: see complaints about Maya, but the modelling tools are some what better.

Modo: I only tried this briefly and this is the one software that made modelling enjoyable - especially with a tablet. But, last I heard, it's barely updated. Also prone to crashing. There's a cool script treasure trove by Seneca. Overall, very easy to customize.

Blender: can you please be normal? At least I can make use of this thing with the new Industry Compatible Keymap. Overall very impressive given that it's Free and Open Source.

The shading node network seems more convoluted than the already convoluted Hypershade from Maya. I seriously need to manually add a mapping node to plug a texture into a shader? At least Hypershade does that for me. Also, no dome lights WAT!? And why do I need a script to connect selected edges?

The community has a lot of vibrant contributors and a lot of cool things are being made but why is there a resistance in the community against making the software easier to use? I get that they're trying to guide users into learning hotkeys, which they should be, but you can always learn hotkeys on the side while you use it. This was exactly the case with Modo when I tried it. There were buttons for every tool I needed and a tool tip that tells you the hotkey when you hover over.

The new releases alleviated most of these issues, but there are still things that I miss every now and then as I try to learn Blender. But introduced the annoying issue of coupling select backfacing/occluded with X-ray. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?

I'd honestly prefer that people over at Blender Artists or r/Blender just say that they're gate keeping the software so that it doesn't get shit up by normies (a harsh but ultimately fair stance), but now that corporate money is being thrown at the Blender Foundation, I feel it is only a matter of time.

Also, selecting shit with right click is Chris fucking Barb levels of retarded.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Dont blame the software. Blame your own lack of talent. lol. Thousands of professionals who use GIMP and alternative software as a daily basis make your comment lose every bit of credibility.

GIMP is definitely usable now but Photoshop is still superior and faster. GIMP can be very slow when doing certain things. Open up a large image and go into levels, drag the sliders around and see it stutter and chop. Same with other color operations. No problem in photoshop on a less powerful computer.

Also, selecting shit with right click is Chris fucking Barb levels of retarded.

Just use the mouse with your left hand and you can click with the index finger as normal.

[thread locked and marked solved]

 

[Sketch Turner]

Seeing you omit SketchUp reminds me that the SM64 community loves getting into fights over it vs Blender.

In fact I'm sort of surprised it doesn't have a community watch thread, lots of drama particularly around "betah revivals".

 

[JoseRaulChupacabra]

Seeing you omit SketchUp reminds me that the SM64 community loves getting into fights over it vs Blender.

In fact I'm sort of surprised it doesn't have a community watch thread, lots of drama particularly around "betah revivals".

Well, I don't use SketchUp, so I cannot comment on it.

Software fights in general deserve their own thread, but I'm not sure how many other Farmers can relate to that. There are some users in professional message boards that seem to have lolcow potential.

 

[P.0.0.P]

All 3d software in general. To be fair, attempting to work in 3d space in a 2d monitor is really asking for trouble.

Maya: bloated mess, every year, it takes longer and longer to start up. For being the Industry Standard™ it's out of the box modelling tools are quite shitty. Prone to crashing.

3DS Max: see complaints about Maya, but the modelling tools are some what better.

Modo: I only tried this briefly and this is the one software that made modelling enjoyable - especially with a tablet. But, last I heard, it's barely updated. Also prone to crashing. There's a cool script treasure trove by Seneca. Overall, very easy to customize.

Blender: can you please be normal? At least I can make use of this thing with the new Industry Compatible Keymap. Overall very impressive given that it's Free and Open Source.

The shading node network seems more convoluted than the already convoluted Hypershade from Maya. I seriously need to manually add a mapping node to plug a texture into a shader? At least Hypershade does that for me. Also, no dome lights WAT!? And why do I need a script to connect selected edges?

The community has a lot of vibrant contributors and a lot of cool things are being made but why is there a resistance in the community against making the software easier to use? I get that they're trying to guide users into learning hotkeys, which they should be, but you can always learn hotkeys on the side while you use it. This was exactly the case with Modo when I tried it. There were buttons for every tool I needed and a tool tip that tells you the hotkey when you hover over.

The new releases alleviated most of these issues, but there are still things that I miss every now and then as I try to learn Blender. But introduced the annoying issue of coupling select backfacing/occluded with X-ray. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?

I'd honestly prefer that people over at Blender Artists or r/Blender just say that they're gate keeping the software so that it doesn't get shit up by normies (a harsh but ultimately fair stance), but now that corporate money is being thrown at the Blender Foundation, I feel it is only a matter of time.

Also, selecting shit with right click is Chris fucking Barb levels of retarded.

Im still learning and trying to practice with Blender and I can understand how frustrating can be sometimes when trying to figure out some stuff. Even youtube tutorials tend to be kinda dated, as this software updates faster than my learning curve. I heard theres a fork from an independent guy who is trying to make Blender UIs more appealing and simpler. Im not sure how its called, but i think its "Bforartists". Their current version is 3.0 from the 4th of december 2021. Never used it, but maybe you are interested or something. Its very comprehensible the feeling that Blender might be gatekeeping some stuff. Even some tutorials seem VERY limited. 80% BS rambling; 20% to the real core.

Norton 360 is possibly one of the worst antiviruses I've ever used.

Its main issue is that it flags files (especially executables) as harmful based on how many different users have opened it. If Norton detects that less than 50 (?) users have opened the file, it will send it to quarantine, which can be really annoying if you know for definite that it isn't harmful. The worst thing is that it can sometimes send files to quarantine WITHOUT informing you of it, which I have had happen to me.

You can remove files from quarantine, but what's so dumb is that you can only do so when the file has been sent there, because Norton will ONLY give the option when that happens (providing it does inform you). It does not give the option for it to, by default, ignore files (or even folders) on its main page.

Protegent is for you.

 

[JoseRaulChupacabra]

Im still learning and trying to practice with Blender and I can understand how frustrating can be sometimes when trying to figure out some stuff. Even youtube tutorials tend to be kinda dated, as this software updates faster than my learning curve. I heard theres a fork from an independent guy who is trying to make Blender UIs more appealing and simpler. Im not sure how its called, but i think its "Bforartists". Their current version is 3.0 from the 4th of december 2021. Never used it, but maybe you are interested or something. Its very comprehensible the feeling that Blender might be gatekeeping some stuff. Even some tutorials seem VERY limited. 80% BS rambling; 20% to the real core.

I tried that, but didn't delve into it. The Industry Compatible Keymap for the vanilla version solved most of my problems along with a script that automates XRay toggle with drag right click selection.

 

[Jolyne THICCujoh]

Is it alright to put a love/hate thing here? Because that's my EXACT feelings on Clip Studio Paint.

I'm gonna come right out and say it is one of the best options for artists in terms of digital art, but good fucking lord I hate how they handle their mobile apps. With the desktop application, you can pay a one time payment or either Ex or Pro, which I'm fine with. I loathe any art or photo editing programs, LIKE FUCKING ADOBE, that makes you pay for a subscription model.
But then they came up with their Android and IOS apps. With an ongoing subscription fee.

The worst part is you can't even use the code you got from buying the desktop version to USE the mobile apps. No, you gotta get a separate subscription JUST so you can draw on your PC and tablet.

It fucking blows and I wish there was a way to pirate the mobile shit. I move around a lot and don't have as much time anymore to sit down at my laptop for long periods of time.

And it really sucks shit from a hose because I love using the desktop version of CSP because there aren't as many good art programs out there.
Photoshop is Adobe fuckery, Medibang is very MEH-dibang, and the billion of niche art programs out there have bullshit payment models or are barren in terms of features.

The only ones I've really like are Procreate and Krita, but Krita has a lot features I need that are missing (such as a reference window) and Procreate has a layer limit that keeps me from doing big ol projects on it.

By Allah, I shall slaughter the Roblox avatar of whoever in the CSP company poured bullshit on a good thing.

 

[Raging Capybara]

By the way, can someone explain to me why they hate us so much?

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

Fuck no. Adobe Creative Suite is terrific when pirated. I'd rather just keep using pirated Photoshop like I always have than wrestle with GIMP.

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This guy should quit if he can't even find a way to make a perfect circle on Gimp, that shit's easy.

The real problem with Gimp, Inkscape and previously Blender are their ass user interfaces. Still I managed to figure out how Gimp and Inkscape work, Blender though, I never did, but thanks the devs for improving the user interface anyways that's appreciated. Also the only reason I use them instead of just pirated paid software like Photoshop on my Win 10 laptop is simply because I'm afraid that someone would slip a virus into their pirated copy and give it to me.

 

[seri0us]

Also the only reason I use them instead of just pirated paid software like Photoshop on my Win 10 laptop is simply because I'm afraid that someone would slip a virus into their pirated copy and give it to me.

ye thats the same reason i never pirated programs very much

 

[JoseRaulChupacabra]

Blender though, I never did, but thanks the devs for improving the user interface anyways that's appreciated.

More than that was the interaction. Right click to select was just the tip of the iceberg. They had a button to change it, but it didn't make it anymore usable without serious time investment.

Like a lot of people, first thing I learned was Maya, then Max, then decided to try Modo. The two later software had a way of doing things that you needed to learn to use but after that, you were good.

In the case of Max, you needed to put a modifier to actually start doing shit and shift drag extrudes edges. In Modo, you needed to spam space bar all over the place because clicking on empty space changes the tool's center.

Thankfully, they created a new keymap. I could actually explore it now without rage quitting.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

By the way, can someone explain to me why they hate us so much?

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Right handed coordinate systems and Y being the vertical axis should be standard. What kind of lunatic would decide to make Z the vertical axis? Z is depth!

 

[Tims]

Any propiertary hardware interface software comes to mind, Razer Synapse can eat my cock for how shit it is & don't get me started on GeForce Expierence trying to make me log in to update the drivers for my PAID FOR GPU. (you can patch it out but thats not the point i can share my app.js file if you want as the one from the github for the patch is fucked).

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

Seeing the Nuraphones and their subscription services I must say, FUCK OFF.

TL;DR you don't own the hardware, and must continiously pay for the right to use the hardware.

They will remotely disable them and bill you for the devices if you stop paying for them. Jesus fucking christ I hope this doesn't become a trend.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

There's no "hardware gore" thread, so might as well add that there.

I took these last year, so it's been a while.

 

[Gamepad]

By the way, can someone explain to me why they hate us so much?

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Hah. That takes me back. Source plugins for Maya were also expecting you to have your workflow matching the engine. So things would go belly up when exported in-game if you forgot to set your up axis as Z and units weren't in inches.

 

[ditto]

The real problem with Gimp, Inkscape and previously Blender are their ass user interfaces.

At least with FOSS once you get used to the terrible interfaces you know the software will be around forever.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

At least with FOSS once you get used to the terrible interfaces you know the software will be around forever.

GIMPs user interface is infinitely more usable now compared to some years ago when it was like what MS Paint would be if Macromedia developed it for the Mac in Flash. They still have ways to go to de-stupidify the GUI. You know what happens when you run gimp on a 720p laptop screen? It scales down all the icons. Not much of a problem except the already small icons like layers, layer groups and other things becomes so small you have to rely on tool-tips to figure out what you are about to click.

Piece of shit software: Chrome for removing the ability to turn off autoplay. Fuck you google. Click on a news story at News Site, wait 4-5 seconds for their slow-ass player to load and start playing a probably unrelated video so that I can pause it and read the article without people talking in the background.