🐷 The Killstream General Discussion Thread - Discuss Ethan Ralph's stagnant Killstream and his appearances on other shows.

[Gruntgar The Indentured]

Alcohol/benzos/gabapentin/THC/with a sprinkling of pain meds makes for an exciting evening. All that's missing is a Seconal nightcap for his pigsomnia. Future so bright he has to wear shades.

 

[Die For Me!]

 

[hawkisnight]

Glorious return of the killstream to the front page! Ralphamale win! Take that broke dick farms!

 

[AncientPhosphur]

So if we leave aside the idea that chiropractors can solve kidney disease or world peace and just focus on actual back pain and people with poor posture (especially since nowadays people have jobs where they stand for 20 hours a day or sit in front of a computer for 20 hours a day, both of which are both highly unnatural) is it still considered pseudoscience when it comes to that?

I applied to some chiropractor assistant job because I wanted to build up experience in the medical field before applying to grad school so I sent my resume out to anything I could, plus I needed a job for rent. I got the interview and it was less an interview and more a weird cult member pitch with people in this group stating insane beliefs like a chiropractor is how they cured their cancer or how a chiropractor healed their cysts and they could get pregnant. It had this weird new age cultist belief far outside of the medical field that when they called to confirm I got the job I never followed up despite needing the money.

 

[DickMain]

I applied to some chiropractor assistant job because I wanted to build up experience in the medical field before applying to grad school so I sent my resume out to anything I could, plus I needed a job for rent. I got the interview and it was less an interview and more a weird cult member pitch with people in this group stating insane beliefs like a chiropractor is how they cured their cancer or how a chiropractor healed their cysts and they could get pregnant. It had this weird new age cultist belief far outside of the medical field that when they called to confirm I got the job I never followed up despite needing the money.

Am I crazy, is there a different (and very close) spelling of another word I'm not thinking of? Because I thought these were just the people you went in to see if you had back/shoulder/neck pain. Like, spine doctors and shit. I've never been to one and always thought this.

 

[BlueArmedDevil]

Am I crazy, is there a different (and very close) spelling of another word I'm not thinking of?

naturopathic healing. It's a woo woo style of medical treatment that chiropractors skirt the line on being part of. Some fully embrace the sudo hippy science while others try and seem legit medical practitioners.

 

[DickMain]

naturopathic healing. It's a woo woo style of medical treatment that chiropractors skirt the line on being part of. Some fully embrace the sudo hippy science while others try and seem legit medical practitioners.

That is so wild to me. I've gone all my life thinking chiropractic medicine was just like actual medicine. My grandmother would talk about seeing them for shit between surgeries (go figure, her problems got worse before they finally started to get better). I really just thought they were people who helped with fucked up backs.

 

[AltisticRight]

Can anyone expand more on this? I have seen chiropractors twice in my life, both times for back pain and not for anything else, they seemed to help and I've been tempted to try and see one again just to get my spine "aligned". The wikipedia page and many places say its basically pseudoscience but I have heard some people say that getting their back "aligned" helped their posture + activity (it didn't magically cure all their ailments) and the pseudoscience claim seems to be about everything besides actual back pain and posture.

Stop. Talk to your GP and ask for someone you can consult.

It's a plain and simple case of correlation and causation. If you have backpain and you're actively seeking ways to fix or alleviate it, you will likely find a way. Whether it's more excercise or massaging, or seeing one of these chiros.
Which one helped? You'd automatically like to think the treatment which costs the most money helped the most.
Then, comparatively, did you see a physiologist too, who are often qualified to give you tips and treatment? Likely not.

If you're worried about posture and activities enough to spend money on it, you'll likely take the necessary steps to fix it too. It doesn't mean the chiropractor helped you. It's the same as these dumb electricity saving scams sold to idiots who then take caution to turn off electronics at night, and then they're amazed they saved on their bills.

Maybe the chiro did help, who knows. If a dice is rolled enough times, you just might get numbers less than 2, 10 times in a row. The pseudoscientific aspect of that claims all issues stem from this mechanical alignment bullshit, and they just happen to have the solution, a very bad one unlike other quacks. This is a bold claim that better established alternative medicine fields wouldn't even make, like CTM.

I'm not doubting that it happens but I am guessing the prevalence of it must be extremely low and it kind of seems like the risk of it happening is about the same as any medical procedure (I know someone who had to go into critical medical care because they visited the dentist and plaque somehow made it into their bloodstream).

http://whatstheharm.net/chiropractic.html
Lots and lots. These were otherwise healthy people with no hidden allergies or conditions that could lead to adverse reactions when they say, take a vaccine.
Their injuries and deaths happen right after the treatment.

Like ritalin and many medications can cause Priapism (a prolonged erection) and generally you have to go to a hospital and have a needle inserted in the side of your cock to drain the blood out--but that doesn't stop it being widely prescribed because the chance of it happening is so miniscule.

That is true, many medications might bring adverse symptoms. The difference here is documentation.
When you take a certain medication, you are told directly to dial emergency if X happens, drink a lot of water if Y happens, what to do if you miss a dose or if you get that into your eyes and so on.
What are you supposed to do with chiropractic accidents? Do they tell you anything? No. You just die in agonising pain or become wheelchair bound.

Sure, the medical field is filled with malpractice too, from lack of patient consent with cell gathering (like HeLa) and outright fabrication in the Oxycontin (Sackler Family) case. Each time something like this happens, heads start rolling. That never happens with quack alternative medical treatments. These are the exceptions to the norm.

To give you an extreme example, some people in Nigeria believes in voodoo human sacrifice and cannibalism practices, even politicians have been implicated in "buying a healthy child" and "sacrificing them to win an election". Fuck all happens.
A lot of time this has to do with unearned nationalist pride as well. The belief that "our medicine" is better than "western medicine (I loathe this term)".
I can rant on more but it's meaningless. "Western medicine" as a concept doesn't even exist. It's just medicine.
Ritual killings:

https://www.cfr.org/blog/ritual-killings-nigeria-reflect-mounting-desperation-wealth-and-security-amid-creeping

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

Like, spine doctors and shit.

Chiro means hand. Put simply, Chiropractors are people who manipulate body parts with their hands.

That's it.

 

[C. G. B. Spender]

Chiro means hand. Put simply, Chiropractors are people who manipulate body parts with their hands.

That's it.

Ralphie cant afford real doctors, he has to get manhandled and cracked by some faggy quacks. No more gringo dollaz for the piggie who fell to the average mehican peasant tier poverty.

 

[DickMain]

Chiro means hand. Put simply, Chiropractors are people who manipulate body parts with their hands.

That's it.

I feel so lied to, and I wasn't even a patient. I don't know who grandma was seeing then, because she never described what they do and it was always just 'for her back', so I just assumed my whole life that 'yeah these people get rid of bad kinks in your back' or something. Never would have guessed it was hippie medicine.

 

[AncientPhosphur]

I feel so lied to, and I wasn't even a patient. I don't know who grandma was seeing then, because she never described what they do and it was always just 'for her back', so I just assumed my whole life that 'yeah these people get rid of bad kinks in your back' or something. Never would have guessed it was hippie medicine.

It’s bizarre. It has a surface level medical science to it but then you dive into it and it’s all energy and crystals resetting through body manipulation.

 

[Obnoxious Asshole]

Chiropractors are just less qualified osteopaths. Let that sink in.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

It’s bizarre. It has a surface level medical science to it but then you dive into it and it’s all energy and crystals resetting through body manipulation.

Never been to a chiro that had any of that kind of element. The handful of times/ places I've gone have been strictly physical manipulation by the chiro, along with PT and industrial grade TENS (transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation).*

*when I went through a few years with super-severe frozen shoulder, I bought my own TENS unit, which helped with short-term relief from muscle guarding pain and muscle hardness from the capsulitis. It was short-term relief but I found it more effective than corticosteroid shots, which is usually the first-line treatment. The best thing for it was actually ROM (range of motion) exercises that I did using a very good barebones app).

 

[GuntPatrol]

so I just assumed my whole life that 'yeah these people get rid of bad kinks in your back' or something.

That's the impression probably 90% of people have in regards to chiropractors. Most people assume that it's basically just a type of physical therapy where they help stretch your back (there is a bit of that, which I think makes it seem more credible and supposedly helps some people), but when you dig beneath the surface, the entire profession is built on pure quackery. I was similarly shocked when I finally came to this realization, which didn't happen until my late 20s. I was like, "What the fuck?! My entire life, everyone seemed to regard this as a legitimate medical practice, but it turns out the whole thing is just made-up bullshit? How is no one talking about this?"

 

[Julius Caesar The 187th]

Any predictions for the upcoming election special?

 

[FiveStarAce]

Any predictions for the upcoming election special?

Dead air.

 

[ddlloo]

Any predictions for the upcoming election special?

A little something to take the edge off. Then a little more because the stream isn't going well. Then a little more again because the Ralpha feela good. Then he shits himself.

 

[It's All So Tiresome]

Any predictions for the upcoming election special?

Send himself fake powerchat donos to impress Richard Spencer and whatever bimbo he found on twitter. One arm air guitar (hilarious). Sniping the Casino on his second monitor and hollering about it. And of course, pills, booze and 1 to 2 bags of cope chips.

 

[DSP's Tax Lawyer]

Dead air.

Stop being such a Debby downer. You need to believe he’s going to shit himself