Pirating media/software

[Marvin]

I realize if I bothered I probably would pirate stuff but torrenting sounds like it takes a lot of time and I'm fucking lazy.

Heh, actually it's nearly instant for me. The effort part comes with when you leave the torrent open after you've finished downloading it. And I would encourage you to seed past when you've downloaded your file, but that's up to you.

 

[Some JERK]

Heh, actually it's nearly instant for me. The effort part comes with when you leave the torrent open after you've finished downloading it. And I would encourage you to seed past when you've downloaded your file, but that's up to you.

I seed to 10 when there aren't that many seeders. If it's a file that already has thousands of seeders then I don't even bother.

 

[Ariel]

I wonder how many people started pirating things like Game Of Thrones after all the publicity regarding illegal downloads? It seems like the quest to stop illegal downloads might have have the reverse effect.

 

[A-№1]

Oh yeah, same. I'm waiting for Don't Legalize It. I'm amazed that it's not on the internet yet. Not even a camrip. I would've thought some American would've just gone over the border to get a cam rip by now.

It's probably like poutine. Sometimes you have no other option than heading north to get the good stuff.

They might use shibboleths. Like they ask you what is the first grade in high school. "Uhh, it's 9th grade." "American! Guards, take him away!"

Lol. Quick, name this delicious food product!

Oh no, I'm sure you're being very reasonable. I'm just saying that creators are losing the ability to demand payment. They can't control their works anymore. The best they can do now is put content out and hope people like it enough to where they have dedicated fans.

Sort of. Creators always have the option of just not creating any more. Even Chris worked that one out with Sonichu.

Again, it's the middle men publishers who really lose out to new technology because they have lost the ability to insert themselves as an oligopolic wedge between creators and consumers. Just look at comic strips these days. Comic strips are just images, and if anything images are the easiest thing on the internet to copy and distribute ("pirate" if you will). Admittedly there were some damn fine comic strips in the past (and quite a few crappy ones), but there are more comics these days than I could ever have dreamed of back then, and their creators are doing better for themselves than they ever would have under the old school syndication racket. Now obviously not everyone with a webcomic is doing swimmingly, but some of them are doing quite well and a hell of a lot more of them are doing better than they ever would have when the syndicates kept a stranglehold on access to the market.

tl;dr: modern copyright laws (and copyright legal fuckery) are used to screw content creators as much as consumers.

I'm personally terrified that if I pirate stuff something like this will happen to me.

I would hate to be trapped in a bad high school skit as well.

Haha, speak of the devil, I just got a letter from selective service. They confirmed my address update I filed a bit ago, and I got a little wallet sized "confirmation" that I registered. Heh, like shit, where will that be useful? Am I out, getting grilled by SS officials confirming that I registered on the street? Sir, show us your papers, or you'll be taken to jail to confirm your SS registration! Haha, damn.

It's quite handy for trolling feminists and mens rights nitwits. Also in case you ever need financial aid for college.

 

[Stuff and Things]

I support small companies, and i even support big companies if i feel like it, but i don't have problems downloading music or movies or games or books, whatever. I think it all comes down to the context of the situations. For example, i am downloading music right now, and the musicians whose music i am downloading, they don't lose any money for not buying their stuff, instead, for not buying their stuff, they believe that not too many fans exist here where i live, and thus they don't come here to make live concerts.... So yeah, i've been thinking about this as well, and i think it all comes down to the context of the situations.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

I only pirate games from far bigger developers (who are notorious for being greedy such as EA) but I support the small companies.

There's also the issue of DRM. I know that for a lot of people, Asassin's Creed 2 did not work for legit buyers, so they pirated it.

 

[KatsuKitty]

Nah, what you really need to worry about is DP coming after you.

MC DP?

 

[Uzumaki]

I can say in all honesty that I am NOT in this category of people, and I know other authors who don't buy that 'free advertising' bullshit.

I realize this is going to come off condescending, but if you're a relatively unknown author and you care more about a few online sales than gaining exposure to grow your audience, you're throwing away dollars to save pennies. The reality of how media is consumed is changing, and if you want to throw your hat in with the dinosaurs just as the meteor enters Earth's atmosphere, all I can do is wish you luck.

Too many people get caught up in the money aspect of writing without realizing that you can't make money if nobody knows who you are.

Another question: do you honestly think all the people who pirate your book would have bought it legitimately? What do you think is the percentage that would have, if you're honest with yourself? Now how many of that percentage would have even heard of it if it wasn't in that torrent? People look at a torrent with 10,000 downloads and imagine 10,000 lost sales, when it's more like maybe 4-5 lost sales (if that) and 10,000 people who are now exposed to (and if it's good, emotionally connected to) the work in question.

Edit: And before you ask: yes I write and yes I've been pirated.

 

[A-Stump]

WOULD YOU DOWNLOAD A CAR

 

[Ti-99/4A]

WOULD YOU DOWNLOAD A CAR

If it was possible, Of course I would! CARS ARE EXPENSIVE!

 

[Uzumaki]

WOULD YOU DOWNLOAD A CAR

In Star Trek the Vulcan technology to download cars brings about a never-ending golden age for humanity that includes the elimination of all war, poverty and the concept of statehood. Instead of having money, humans work simply for the betterment of their community and their species.

Edit: I know what you're thinking, but in Next Gen they play poker for fun just with chips (and I think for ship duties in one episode, maybe I'm misremembering) and in DS9 they use latinum only when dealing with non-humans, because those jerks don't have a glowing utopia yet like us, and human criminals. There's no federation-citizen-to-federation-citizen money.

 

[Pikonic]

WOULD YOU DOWNLOAD A CAR

Someday

 

[ToroidalBoat]

While I don't think copying per se is normally theft (it's normally the opposite), there are some situations where it can cause damages when it's illegal, in my opinion.

 

[Hróðvitnisson]

Let us say that I own a pen and a paper. I go to the library and transcribe from a book. The author has no claim upon my property, that is to say, my paper merged with my ink from my pen.

The same holds true for hard drives.

 

[Night Terror]

I pirate because I'm a cheap, lazy bastard who doesn't like to part with money if I can help it.
I'm not sticking it to the man. I'm not trying to make a statement. I'm not embracing anarchy or communism. I'm just frugal and a dick.

 

[StallChaser]

Pirating isn't stealing, but it's worth something. It depends on what you'd be willing to pay if you couldn't pirate it. If it's not available at all (old, out of print, localization BS, etc), then the original owner wouldn't be making any money from you anyways, and I wouldn't consider it immoral at all.

 

[Dr. Mario]

I don't feel bad about pirating Adobe's products. They're expensive as shit and usually graphic designers don't have a lot of money to spend on software.

 

[Foulmouth]

I'd might actually feel bad about piracy if most of the big game companies didn't release half finished buggy garbage as standard these days.
If the cunts don't put the effort in to finish their product why the fuck should I hand over good money for it ?

 

[Dark Mirror Hole]

I'd might actually feel bad about piracy if most of the big game companies didn't release half finished buggy garbage as standard these days.
If the cunts don't put the effort in to finish their product why the fuck should I hand over good money for it ?

Not to mention that everything is expensive in Australia for no good reason. Some of those games cost $100!

 

[Aiko Heiwa]

My view on pirating media/software is pretty simple: I only do it if I have no other choice (like something that you can't get legally where I am) or I wanna try a game out or see if I like a movie without renting it/buying it. Otherwise, I don't pirate and never will. Nor do I care if you pirate, but don't act like I'm some sheep for buying products when I want to support the companies that make them.

Also I absolutely can't stand it when an anime gets licensed and released here in the US, but people keep pirating it, so the company stops releasing it, and then the pirates are all "Look, they cancelled the release! See this is why I pirate!"