Pitch: Women's Only App Enforced by 3rd Party ID Verification

[ScatmansWorld]

I think everyone deserves the right to associate and disassociate with whoever they wish on principle, and I'm sympathetic to the idea.

However, I also think normalizing any kind of internet ID system is a dangerous precedent that will more likely than not ruin the internet in the future.

1. Register on SITE.
2. Forwarded to 3RD PARTY.
3. Data uploaded to 3RD PARTY.
4. Data processed, stored, handled, exclusively by 3RD PARTY.
5. 3RD PARTY asks you for consent to send specific information to SITE (in this instance, only Gender).
6. SITE stores an API token (looks like 'b594e335-ea8d-4a6f-969a-ab167a56eef5').

• This token means nothing on its own.
• This token has value to the 3RD PARTY.
• SITE can check this token against 3RD PARTY to ensure that no one registers twice.

7. In the event of total data breach, hackers get meaningless tokens, F/M.

So SITE only stores tokens that are useless if exposed, but what happens in a scenario where a trans or trans-alligned employee of 3RD PARTY decides to risk everything and leak the user IDs from SITE? Or what if the government decides SITE is totally a terrorist organization and forces 3RD PARTY to give them all the IDs of SITE for "national security"?

Road to hell, good intentions, etc.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

You are basically giving your ID to a third party, identifying yourself as an anti-trans person. If that company does keep the data and bends the knee to the UK, for example, then people could legitimately end up in jail for hate crimes.

So SITE only stores tokens that are useless if exposed, but what happens in a scenario where a trans or trans-alligned employee of 3RD PARTY decides to risk everything and leak the user IDs from SITE? Or what if the government decides SITE is totally a terrorist organization and forces 3RD PARTY to give them all the IDs of SITE for "national security"?

Let's say that all the IDs for the userbase get leaked by the third-party service. If the system is set up properly, these couldn't be linked to specific anonymous posts. It's highly unlikely this would result in jail time for anybody, even in the UK. Unless the forum itself gets designated as an extremist organization or something.

Maybe it's also possible to find a third-party service that can also process ID checks with zero knowledge of where they are coming from, IDK. Maybe Null could set up a Very Ordinary Company LLC that submits the IDs to this service but has no stated purpose, no link to the site.

 

[Egg McMuffin]

I can't wait for the inevitable hacking and leaks. Will they be allowed to be posted here?

 

[lego racers]

i personally wouldn't ever in a million years provide my id to a website, especially if it's 3rd party.

 

[SpellforceFan]

I can't wait for the inevitable hacking and leaks. Will they be allowed to be posted here?

All that could leak would be the post themselves and whatever 3rd party hash assigned to the account, maybe some IPs. If users are dumb enough to post their personal info on a discussion forum, then they deserve to have them leak to the public. I doubt any content leaked from posts themselves would be of any value, so anyone who'd try to hack it would have to do it "for the art".

 

[ScatmansWorld]

If the system is set up properly, these couldn't be linked to specific anonymous posts.

We're talking about a whole website that's specifically biological-woman only though. Having your name show up on a leaked list would at the very least make people raise their eyebrows about it.

And even if it does only point to a general website, why the hell would you willingly create another vector for leaking PII of your users in an era where leaks are happening all the time?

 

[The Tall Man]

Unless the forum itself gets designated as an extremist organization or something.

I wouldn't bet against that.

 

[Egg McMuffin]

i personally wouldn't ever in a million years provide my id to a website, especially if it's 3rd party.

exactly It's a dumb IDea Why can't women just stop being crybabies and accept talking to men? If thunderdomers called for ID to verify no liberals got in, everyone would laugh and call them crybabies, but women want this attack on titan firewall around their little feminist village, and people agree with them because muh "tranny invaders" just accept opposing views and the problem goes away.

 

[Squishie PP]

I can't wait for the inevitable hacking and leaks. Will they be allowed to be posted here?

Would also need the third-party ID service to be breached as well, since the Nonce tokens alone don't provide any info on the posts. Though maybe the users could be identified by using info they have posted (anyone who willing to use this service has terrible security practices anyway) and some OSINT techniques.

 

[Lidl Drip]

All that could leak would be the post themselves and whatever 3rd party hash assigned to the account, maybe some IPs. If users are dumb enough to post their personal info on a discussion forum, then they deserve to have them leak to the public. I doubt any content leaked from posts themselves would be of any value, so anyone who'd try to hack it would have to do it "for the art".

Incels already beginning their revenge fantasies about super secret super embarrassing gorly leaks because just the thought of being excluded from something makes them seethe.

It would just be like LCF without the spamming trannies and butthurt moids that post decapitated women whenever they get mad. But ofc men who have never talked to women imagine that we possess some super secret knowledge that if it ever got out we would all have to seppuku.

 

[SofondaCox]

I can think of a dozen times over the years this would have been an enormous benefit, particularly for females with no female family who are frequently
baffled by their bodies. It would also be a way to discuss male violence without males masturbating to your experience. I would consider ID verification
only because Josh is the admin, and he's proven himself trustworthy with a decade of uncompromising integrity. Would be interested in a broad(lol)er
survey to see what percentage of women on the Internet understand the need for such a thing and are also interested in investing their time into something
new.

 

[PhoBingas]

Might be able to make some money off it, but with involving a 3rd party to verify shit, it increases the likelihood there's going to be shit getting leaked or hacked.

 

[Lurker]

exactly It's a dumb IDea Why can't women just stop being crybabies and accept talking to men? If thunderdomers called for ID to verify no liberals got in, everyone would laugh and call them crybabies, but women want this attack on titan firewall around their little feminist village, and people agree with them because muh "tranny invaders" just accept opposing views and the problem goes away.

or your could accept that a space might exist that your scroteness can't violate

 

[Freshly Baked Socks]

SO much shmaltzy hand-wringing in this thread. Just admit that troons have hacked the binary and society will fall apart if anything is attempted to be done about it. It would be simpler than realizing feminism and civil equality has been a big lie and we've gone down the wrong path for over 100 years.

 

[Daddy's Little Kitten]

As long as I can be a mod and tell the trannies that manage to make it through to kill themselves, I'm OK with it.

But I'm not giving an ID.

 

[SwanSwanson]

It needs to be called something to ward off trannies and men so perhaps something like "wrinkle" since they are disgusted by the thought of a woman who is over 25. They will be like "Wrinkle?? Eewww!! I identify as a hawt teenage girl only!"

Maybe ban discussion of gaming to ward off trannies? I feel like the honor system would work just fine if the site has an explicitly anti trans stance and forbids the support of trannies.

 

[Egg McMuffin]

I would consider ID verification
only because Josh is the admin, and he's proven himself trustworthy with a decade of uncompromising integrity.

LMAO, you have to be a paid shill if you want a place to discuss women "baffled by their bodies." Try a therapist; you are clearly too soft for the internet.

or your could accept that a space might exist that your scroteness can't violate

Have you ever heard of Tumblr or Facebook groups, or the entire Beauty Parlor subforum, or literally thousands of things in the real world you can do that are almost or entirely women?

 

[God of Nothing]

this is the kind of thing we mock start ups for promising

 

[SpellforceFan]

Why can't women just stop being crybabies and accept talking to men?

You're looking at it from an incorrect perspective. It's not an ideological issue, it's a business opportunity. According to null, there is a market for women who'd gladly pay premium for an online hangout that they are absolutely certain contains no posts made by men. Said platform has to be immune to most harassment-based forms of takedowns, which KF has weathered, so a product by the same dev would most likely share that immunity. Right now there are only three serious obstacles that stand in the way of making fat fucking money: 3rd party ID verification, payment processors, possible gender discrimination lawsuit (trannies aren't a threat by themselves, seeing how KF still stands).

This is a market with no real competition. Once a service like that is stable and acquires fame/infamy as the one and only of its kind, you can set the entry fee as high as the market allows. SA's $10 ticket would pale in comparison, and once the payment method issue gets resolved, you could fleece users for shit like stickers, emotes and other dumb cosmetic shit that's popular nowadays. Hell, you could sell your soul to Satan and turn it into a live service, with a subscription fee. No jew would waste that kind of opportunity.

 

[Cherry Eyed Hamster]

I think it's a commendable idea, but it unfortunately sounds incredibly risky. The verification system despite its encryption seems ripe for exploitation and many troons are tech-savvy. I think in order to have a decently sized all-women online community nowadays it needs to be either off the clearweb or spread through word-of-mouth on a place like Beauty Parlor and is invite-only.

Food for thought, A saying my husband lives by: if it has tits or tires, you’re going to have issues.

Your husband sounds like an asshole.