Pitch: Women's Only App Enforced by 3rd Party ID Verification

[Null]

I saw that LCF was down and a lot of people were upset, which kinda hurt because my forum is awesome, but it's obvious there are some topics best discussed anonymously.

I am burned on anonymous imageboards. It's not happening again. However, I'm amused by the idea of a pseudo-anonymous imageboard.

So this is the pitch: a women's only app that uses one of those third party ID verification companies to only permit women.

Software

• The software would be the software project I am working on for the Kiwi Farms.
• The core concepts of threads and posts and boards is really not that different. It would just be organized different and displayed different.
• It would be a much earlier MVP than a full forum.

Verification

• Must submit government ID to a 3rd party service.
• License must say F. M may submit gender change documentation for pooners.
• There will be troons with F licenses that get in, but once they're banned, they're banned by their ID, so it's not so simple to get around.

Privacy

• The only information stored on the application from the 3rd Party Verification would be what's called a nonce (a secure token with no information in itself) and the gender marker.
• Posts would be earmarked to moderation with this token, similar to an IP address.
• Posts would go 'stale' and truly anonymous after a while (1 week? a month?), so there's time to action moderation decision and observe intrusive behavior, but no permanent record like a forum history.

Issues

• There are potential legal issues, see Bostock v. Clayton County, but I would argue this is a forum for people born with certain chromosomal conditions, not sex, considering the pooners.
• ID verification is a high bar of entry so the product might flop completely.
• It would be administrated by a man, in an ultimate irony, but other staff would be women.
• It would probably not be "comfy" in the sense of being a 1:1 copy of an imageboard.
• 3rd party verification usually costs per verification so there may be finance issues.

If you are a man, your input is not solicited.

go to any amazon product review, any subreddit about knitting, go to forums about fucking cervical cancer or fucking PCOS support community or endometriosis community, and BEHOLD the REASON.

Discuss.

 

[Lifeguard Hermit]

I could totally see this having a positive effect on less females having complete mental fucking breakdowns when a male doesn't kiss their feet on this website.

Also you deplete the amount of incels that fill the need to scream cunt at every female they encounter.

it's a win win

never change lidl.

Thanks for being the first psychotic cunt to negatively rate this comment you psychotic cunt

 

[Rabbits]

if the website was reliably up, i would migrate from LCF. reading LCF is part of my sleepytime routine but the instability annoys me.

 

[Lidl Drip]

Some of us have already discussed this idea and come to the conclusion that it would be too hard to realize. While I think it would be nice to have a totally gatekept community for women only, I would not share my ID to verify for such a thing, I think most wouldn't. Plus it will attract men who will make it their entire life's purpose to get in and ruin it or try to take it down with frivolous lawsuits (like the Giggle app). They don't want women to have anything that is just for women.

 

[Null]

I could totally see this having a positive effect on less females having complete mental fucking breakdowns when a male doesn't kiss their feet on this website.

god you are such a whiny faggot

 

[Bucephalus]

M may submit gender change documentation for pooners.

I am conflicted about this.

On one hand, forcing pooners to admit that they're actually women LARPing as men is very funny.
On the other hand, pooners are invariably unhinged lunatics and probably shouldn't be allowed to post there.

 

[PotatoSalad4711]

It took all of 8 fucking minutes for a guy to come in here and bitch about women/Lidl. Eight. So…

Plus it will attract men who will make it their entire life's purpose to get in and ruin it or try to take it down with frivolous lawsuits (like the Giggle app). They don't want women to have anything that is just for women

Yeah, this, probably.

 

[Lurker]

Plus it will attract men who will make it their entire life's purpose to get in and ruin it or try to take it down with frivolous lawsuits (like the Giggle app). They don't want women to have anything that is just for women.

this is largely the problem. unfortunately, most moids are incapable of staying out of women's spaces.

 

[Null]

I am conflicted about this.

On one hand, forcing pooners to admit that they're actually women LARPing as men is very funny.
On the other hand, pooners are invariably unhinged lunatics and probably shouldn't be allowed to post there.

It's also worth noting that it helps defeat claims of sex-based discrimination, because this wholesome community would be for people born with a specific chromosomal configuration and specific organs.

 

[Null]

Plus it will attract men who will make it their entire life's purpose to get in and ruin it or try to take it down with frivolous lawsuits (like the Giggle app).

It took all of 8 fucking minutes for a guy to come in here and bitch about women/Lidl. Eight. So…

this is largely the problem. unfortunately, most moids are incapable of staying out of women's spaces.

This is defeatism tbh. Weeding out XY without the appropriate organs would be part of the product. It's sort of like weeding out shoplifters when you run a store.

 

[Taxidermied Rat]

There will be troons with F licenses that get in, but once they're banned, they're banned by their ID, so it's not so simple to get around.

It seems like an interesting idea. However with how good machine learning is getting, would it not be trivial for troons to generate as many legit looking goverment IDs as they want? Especially since it's only a photo of an ID and not a physical one.

 

[Lurker]

This is defeatism tbh. Weeding out XY without the appropriate organs would be part of the product. It's sort of like weeding out shoplifters when you run a store.

if you think you can make it work, then I trust your judgement.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

I think it’s a good idea in theory, but in practice it sounds like a lot of trouble.
One, we don’t know how large of a market would be interested or willing to use this forum. Two, requiring ID turns a lot of people off. Three, you will get so much shit from men who desperately want to sling they dicks all over the place.
But, the seethe generated by troons being told “lol no” is more than enough for me to support this idea.

 

[Null]

It seems like an interesting idea. However with how good machine learning is getting, would it not be trivial for troons to generate as many legit looking goverment IDs as they want? Especially since it's only a photo of an ID and not a physical one.

3rd party verifications ask for the bar code on your id so they can check it against databases. It's not that simple.

 

[Mankirk]

Suggestion: BP board where user information is hidden from users. Still requires registration and login, but authorship is only visible to site staff. I imagine this will be a little less work and it ignores the legal verification but I don't really care about that part.

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

Can we also get a male only app except instead of ID's we do dick pic verification? Asking for a friend.

I jest of course. Sounds like a fine idea, but is this app going to be related to the farms in some way like a woman's only version of beauty parlor or is this just gonna be a general thing? Honestly as long as trannies seethe over it I'm happy.

 

[Lidl Drip]

This is defeatism tbh. Weeding out XY without the appropriate organs would be part of the product. It's sort of like weeding out shoplifters when you run a store.

Are you gonna be dealing with that on top of KF? I'm sure many here would be willing to help out and moderate it but yeah, it sounds like inviting a lot of trouble, we are very grateful for the space we already have thanks to you. I would feel bad asking for even more considering the constant scrote meltdowns a single thread has caused.

 

[Grub]

I'm not a woman, so my opinion's probably not worth much on this but I would never give my ID to sign up for a website period for any reason.

 

[Sonic]

I'm a woman and I would really enjoy this. Trannies shit up every single community they join and I would be down to submit my government ID if it meant not having to see pronouns in bios or a pfp of a dude who looks like a hooker and the trucker who murdered her at the same time.

 

[Seething Troon Collector]

There are potential legal issues, see Bostock v. Clayton County, but I would argue this is a forum for people born with certain chromosomal conditions, not sex, considering the pooners.

This is the biggest concern that I can see and people (mentally ill pornsick men) would inevitably engage in endless amounts of lawfare not to destroy the service, but just to hurt you and the users of the app, because that's what they do. Historically, a lot of sex segregated places were enforced through social norms, sororities, bathrooms, bars that only allow women on a certain night, and other situations I'm sure.

The argument would work, but it's not a public forum, it's a private service. I'd defer to @Useful_Mistake for all things related to legal matters, but if it's a private establishment or service, wouldn't Lahmann v. Grand Aerie of Fraternal Order of Eagles apply considering that you could not interact or view any content generated without authorization/membership?

3rd party verification usually costs per verification so there may be finance issues.

Requiring payment could help build a case for a private club/service and alleviate the cost of paying for the ID verification service.

It would be administrated by a man, in an ultimate irony, but other staff would be women.

You've been even-handed and fair in handling the man hate thread and the inevitable drama that came as a result of it. Why would this be any different. If it ever became an issue or if you wanted to step away you could cede control to a woman with the technical knowledge and experience necessary later.

Plus it will attract men who will make it their entire life's purpose to get in and ruin it or try to take it down with frivolous lawsuits (like the Giggle app). They don't want women to have anything that is just for women.

This is exactly why women should have access to and be able to participate in a space that is exclusively for women. To put it mildly, men are pigs, I should know seeing as how I am one. There are also situations and conversations that can only happen in spaces for women. Men already have that. The places where women can have the same thing are limited and keep getting infected by the same mentally ill pornsick men who want to pretend that putting on a dress suddenly grants them the power, knowledge, and life experiences that come along with womanhood. It's sickening.

Sure, I'd never be able to join, but it's not a place for me. It's important that it exists nonetheless.