Plagued Pizzagate / Pedogate - Batshit Conspiracy Nuts Who See Pedos Everywhere

[DragoonSierra]

So unless the hysteria overturns actual physical evidence, then the evidence stands and there was child abuse.



Except they didnt. The McMartin trials both ended in hung juries and Presidio was only dropped because under Californias hearsay laws neither the Doctors nor the Parents could testify about the childrens(who being so young were unfit to testify) first hand accounts. Which is a loophole that is closed in most other states.

The hysteria does not overturn the evidence. But the fact that two separate juries couldnt convict should say something though. Maybe the doctors testimony would have changed the verdict. Who knows? Maybe the allegations were true but thats just one case out of many. In fact there are still people in jail from other convictions.

 

[xXRonPaul_42020Xx]

The hysteria does not overturn the evidence. But the fact that two separate juries couldnt convict should say something though. Maybe the doctors testimony would have changed the verdict. Who knows? Maybe the allegations were true but thats just one case out of many. In fact there are still people in jail from other convictions.

What does it say that you read a book supposedly "debunking" this case and you didnt even know the most important evidence of the prosecution or the outcome of the trials? Before I posted it you thought the allegations were based on nothing. Doesnt it tell you something when the mainstream narrative about these cases just plain ignores these facts?

 

[DragoonSierra]

What does it say that you read a book supposedly "debunking" this case and you didnt even know the most important evidence of the prosecution or the outcome of the trials? Before I posted it you thought the allegations were based on nothing. Doesnt it tell you something when the mainstream narrative about these cases just plain ignores these facts?

Who said I read a book? I just looked at Wikipedia and most of those cases listed didnt result in much or they had thier convictions overturned.

 

[Zorin (ASK ME ABOUT CHILD RAPE)]

I don't have much to say about Pizzagate. As far as conspiracy loons go, these jokers are beyond the rabbit hole. It's a collection of /pol/tards, KiAers, Conspiracy nuts and Trumpets who believe there is a mystical paedo cult using code in Clinton's email leaks, in the same vein as the 80's Satanic Panic.

Nope, while there are a handful of kooks out there trying to drag the "Illuminati" or "alien lizardmen" into it, the allegations, minus all of the "tin foil hat" rubbish was simply allegations of DC politicans being involved in a child sex trafficking ring. Which of course is why the scandal is still going viral on social media.

And given how 'famous people' and sex scandals go together like tea and crumpets, this isn't a stretch to imagine - just off the top of my head we have Jerry Sandusky, Mark Foley, Larry Craig, Bill Clinton, Jeffery Epstein, Bill Cosby, Jared Fogle, the Catholic sex abuse scandal, and many others I'm sure.

If you're interested in the actual evidence rather than just repeating whatever you heard on Fox News or the Young Turks, then I'd recommend watching this video which simply lays out the evidence, minus all of the crank "NWO/Illuminati" schtick:

When you see coincidence after coincidence one after the other, it does indeed look suspicious:

If nothing else, the people posting stuff like this on their FB and Instagram, and sending these private emails leaked by Wikileaks, are at very least weirdos worthy of their own Kiwi Farms thread:

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

Remember when this thread was about laughing at exceptional individuals who thought Congress was full of Satanic Pizza Molesters, instead of validating them?

 

[Zorin (ASK ME ABOUT CHILD RAPE)]

Remember when this thread was about laughing at exceptional individuals who thought Congress was full of Satanic Pizza Molesters,

No I don't remember it. If I recall correctly though there were quite a few fools who believed that a Subway spokesman named Jared was part of some Illuminati conspiracy of sandwich molesters however.

instead of validating them?

Sorry princess, but your best case scenario is that these politicans are just weirdos doing some roleplaying when they talk about "transporting some 11, 9, and 7 year old 'pizzas' anmed Ruby, Emerson and Maeve to the pool for entertainment"

 

[Zorin (ASK ME ABOUT CHILD RAPE)]

That, and best case scenario is when multiple properties, and even a band named "Sex Stains" playing at one of the 'family friendly venues' are using variations of pedophilia ring symbols confirmed by the FBI themselves, is that they're merely "no-contact pedophiles" like that Salon.com spokesperson:

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

That, and best case scenario is when multiple properties, and even a band named "Sex Stains" playing at one of the 'family friendly venues' are using variations of pedophilia ring symbols confirmed by the FBI themselves, is that they're merely "no-contact pedophiles" like that Salon.com spokesperson:

Well shit, if that's all it takes, I have STRONG evidence that Good Humor Ice Cream is connected to all of this!

 

[Zorin (ASK ME ABOUT CHILD RAPE)]

Well shit, if that's all it takes, I have STRONG evidence that Good Humor Ice Cream is connected to all of this!

Nice try, but you're just being obstinate and intentionally lying.

The official FBI documents for one didn't claim that all groups using the logos in question were part of "one conspiracy", but merely that the logos are used in loosely-organized pedophilia and child porn groups for identification. Likewise the FBI documents confirmed that terms such as "pizza" and "hotdog" were indeed codewords used by pedophilia rings.

Likewise if you actually read up on the evidence in question, you'd see it was not just the business logo that was the source of the claim, but that numerous groups in a similar vicinity were using variations of the logo, including a band which performed at one of the venues (that, and I believe one of the businesses changed the logo soon after the FBI documents were leaked, even before the shooting incident and mention on mass media).

Plus you're conveniently ignoring the numerous official emails leaked by WikiLeaks with content such as this. But I'm sure you really believe this email and others were just about "7 year old pizzas named Maeve", right?

For what it's worth anyway, the FBI is now allegedly investigating James Alefantis as well:

https://www.intellihub.com/claim-fb...james-alefantis-over-pizzagate-death-threats/

I suppose now you're going to start a topic on those crazy "Sandwichgaters" who believe a nice Subway Spokesman was actually running a child sex trafficking operation out of a Sandwich franchise?

 

[Zorin (ASK ME ABOUT CHILD RAPE)]

Plus using conspiracy nuts to discredit the actual allegations and evidence of child sex trafficking is pretty pathetic.

There are conspiracy kooks on the internet who believe anything, such as some fools who believed Jared Fogle was part of some "Jewish conspiracy" to sacrifice gentile children or something, but of course that doesn't discredit the actual sex trafficking allegations.

The same people dismissing the Wikileaks emails and FBI documents would've been the ones calling "Sandwichgate" an 'Illuminati conspiracy' before Fogle was busted.

http://www.infostormer.com/jew-pedophile-jared-fogle-given-a-beatdown-by-brave-white-man-in-prison/

 

[xXRonPaul_42020Xx]

Who said I read a book? I just looked at Wikipedia and most of those cases listed didnt result in much or they had thier convictions overturned.

Sorry, our post chain has gone on so long I mistook you for the guy who started it. My point still stands though. Why is it that every source pushing the hysteria narrative is always ignorant of this evidence? Why is the McMartin "hysteria" framed as hysteria over Satanism, something reported by a very small minority of witnesses and hardly brought up by the prosecution, instead of child pornography which is what it was about to begin with?

Heres my point:

Look at the drug industry. It isnt just a few shady people slinging dope on street corners. It is, an INDUSTRY, rivaling the automotive industry in profits. Massive quantities of drugs are manufactured, often around the world, and then shipped in equally massive quantities and distributed via networks that span the entire United States(the number one consumer of illegal and legal drugs). Poppies are grown en masse in Afghanistan, shipped halfway around the world to Mexico to be factory refined into heroin, and then distributed all over the world. There is an entire hidden infrastructure to the drug trade.

Now ask yourself this. Where does child pornography come from? It, just like drugs, isnt just some incidental thing, it is an industry. And it has its own infrastructure. And the people who run it are not stupid. They know how to hide their crimes. They have resources to dedicate to it. And unlike the drug industry which sits firmly in the public consciousness, they operate within the comfortable illusion that these things dont happen here. But they do:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_International_child_pornography_investigation

As of 14 November 2013, 348 people were arrested internationally. Those arrested included priests or pastors, teachers, foster parents, doctors and nurses. A police officer and a youth baseball coach were also arrested.[2][5] A Richmond, Virginia, man was sentenced to 70 months in prison on April 11, 2013, for receipt of child pornography.[21]

In Canada alone 108 people were arrested.[2] In the US 76 were arrested.[22] In Australia arrests began in August 2013 and 65 persons aged from 25 to 72 were arrested.[5] In Spain 28 were arrested in December 2012.[23]

Martin Goldberg, a deputy headteacher in Essex, hanged himself after being investigated following information uncovered in Canada. Approximately 75 indecent images of children were found in his possession from his schools' changing rooms; 465 were taken at the swimming pools of his local leisure centre and 38 from other locations.[31]

The headteacher of the school that he worked at said that he felt "utter shock and betrayal" about Goldberg's behavior, which had been brought to the attention of Essex Police in 2013.[31]

One of the high-impact arrests resulting from Project Spade was that of Ryan Loskarn. The 35-year-old was chief of staff to U.S. Sen.Lamar Alexander at the time of his arrest.[25][26] An investigation of Loskarn’s electronic equipment was prompted in part by the appearance of his name on the Azov Films customer list. It uncovered graphic child pornography that had been obtained over theGnutella peer-to-peer network[27] Loskarn was charged with possessing and intending to distribute child pornography and released on his own recognizance five days after his arrest on December 11, 2013.[28] On January 23, 2014, he committed suicide by hanging himself at his parents’ home.

Incidents like the above and McMartin come and go but no one ever learns the lesson. They see them as either hoaxes or aberrations. And then they go back to thinking that these things dont happen. The Hysteria narrative has been a key part of this. Imagine if I told you the above, without mentioning the arrests and convictions and suicides. If I just told you that Doctors and Police Officers and Schoolteachers and Politicians were all conspiring in secret to abuse children. The first words out of your mouth would have been "This sounds like McMartin." "This sounds like Satanic Panic." ie It Cant Happen Here.

 

[Zorin (ASK ME ABOUT CHILD RAPE)]

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Well as far as your post goes, it's pretty understandable that most 'mainstrean' and 'corporate' media with ties to Washington is going to be biased against anything which really 'shakes up the boat' or might cause people to lose faith in the entire 'Washington 2-party system' itself, which is why both Fox and liberal outlets simply put out PR pieces calling it a conspiracy.

This is also the primary reason there was a decent amount of opposition to Trump on the right and left, and manufactured outrage and fearmongering - since Trump is a Washington outsider who runs a family owned business without DC connections, and both parties didn't want to let an outsider into the DC "boys club".

For what it's worth Alex Jones aside from just being a huckster who regurgitates every stereotypical 'tin foil' hat conspiracy theory that's even been in an X-files episode, has also been employed by Bain Capital's IHeartMedia, so he only discussed it intertwined with the "Satanist" hysteria long enough for it to serve as Infotainment, a la Jesse Ventura and then dropped the subject.

That and we have idiots here who'll spend hours a day trying to "debunk" the sex allegations as a "Satanist Illuminati conspiracy theory", yet refuse to watch a 45 minute video which sorts the actual hard evidence from the Wikileaks emails and the social media profiles from all of the conspiracy froth.

This is why it's pretty pointless for informed people to argue with low-information types who treat Fox News or MSLSD as gospel and spend more time arguing than actually reading.

But even they aren't genuinely stupid enough to believe allegations of political sex scandals (which I'm sure many of them were willing to accuse Trump and Epstein of before the election) are remotely comparable to 'Satanic conspiracies', they're just being intentionally dishonest.

Notice how the twits shut up when the actual emails and leaked FBI documents are posted, because even they aren't stupid enough to believe this was actually talk about "pizza or hot dogs".

So rather than arguing with the ninnies, the best bet of us intelligent folks is to just keep re-posting the hard evidence from Wikileaks and social media, and watch them flee when they have no canned rebuttal to regurgitate, like a vampire fleeing from the sunlight:

 

[JU 199]

Yeah pizzagate isn't real.

 

[Zorin (ASK ME ABOUT CHILD RAPE)]

Yeah pizzagate isn't real.

What's your opinion on what this and other similar leaked emails were about, AM?

"7 year old pizzas named Mauve?

 

[AnOminous]

Nope, while there are a handful of kooks out there trying to drag the "Illuminati" or "alien lizardmen" into it, the allegations, minus all of the "tin foil hat" rubbish was simply allegations of DC politicans being involved in a child sex trafficking ring. Which of course is why the scandal is still going viral on social media.

This is the thread for making fun of these morons, not for being one.

 

[Zorin (ASK ME ABOUT CHILD RAPE)]

This is the thread for making fun of these

That's what I'm doing, making fun of those silly sandwichgaters who believed Jared Fogle was running a Jewish conspiracy to molest gentile children out of a Sandwich franchise charity.

I think they also believed that some kindhearted priests who'd taken a vow of abstinence unto God were running some huge Satanic child rapist ring from the Vatican as well, perish the thought.

morons, not for being one.

Unfortunately they didn't get our memo. Though I'm still waiting for them to explain what they believe these WikiLeaks emails were about, and I've yet to hear such an explanation offered.

 

[Zorin (ASK ME ABOUT CHILD RAPE)]

Let's be generous and assume for a minute this was all just a pervy form of roleplaying and that no children were actually harmed.

Even so I'd venture that Alfentis is weird enough to merit his own Kiwi Farms thread, just for the lulz if nothing else. So assuming he's just a weirdo but not actually a kiddle fiddler, he definitely shares some of the blame for causing people to assume so:

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

I like pizza.

I don't like Autistic thread derailment, tho.

 

[AnOminous]

Let's be generous and assume for a minute this was all just a pervy form of roleplaying and that no children were actually harmed.

Welcome back @Brandobaris you image spamming fucking tard.

 

[Zorin (ASK ME ABOUT CHILD RAPE)]

I like pizza.

I don't like Autistic thread derailment, tho.

You and I both, hence why I'm trying to shoo off the silly derailers who are probably getting woodies over the Wikileaks emails like this - perhaps you can aid me, Piga?

Welcome back @Brandobaris you image spamming fucking tard.

It's okay if you like children Scherezade, nothing wrong with admitting it so long as you don't act on it.

But honestly, please stop trying to pretend you don't know the Wikileaks emails were not about Pizza, and that you find nothing odd about a man posting pictures on his official Facebook wearing a shirt which reads "I like children".

There's plenty of places where you can come out, such as Newgon.com, and no one will judge you sweetie. Maybe you can write Jared Fogle a 'pen pal' letter to his prison and he'll be more accommodating of you than the general public.

But I'll ask you again? What do you think that email was about as one example? I know you won't give a straight answer, but it's worth a try, sigh.