Plurals / Clusters / Systems - Pronouns: we / us / ours

[Reynard]

All I can think of when I see these people is Mr. Metokur’s old Tumblrisms video on headmates. He said something that’s stayed with me, and it’s that these people roleplaying as people with multiple personality disorder/disassociative identity disorder that treat it as something that just so fun and enjoyable, and how that offended even him. And I agree. These people are delegitimizing actual mental illnesses for attention, and it’s nothing short of disgusting. Just role play with friends and you can have all the fun you want of being these character so without being crazy, just weird.

I’m also reminded of this chick I knew in high school who claimed to have multiple personality disorder and seemed to have these “shifts” and stuff. I told her I didn’t believe it, and she surprisingly was pretty calm about it. How do I know she was fake? She claimed to have no gender and be one of those made up bullshit agender weirdos. Looking back, I realized what I had seen in someone at my school, and it’s a bit scary.

 

[Antipathy]

How would you like to be "an ancient god of rage and protection," only to wind up in this moron's head?

I can see the greentext now

>Be ancient god of rage and power.
>Get worshiped
>Everyone starts worshiping Jesus instead
>End up in autist NEET's brain.
>Fml.jpeg.

 

[Android raptor]

There are also some good example in the Tumblr subforum, like springtrapp and Vade (who once made up a new edgy headmate/alter because she was mad at us. Never forget our son Tero). I think there might actually be a general headmates/system thread there now that I think about it. As others have mentioned systems have been a big thing on Tumblr for ages.

 

[Konover]

I don’t know Tumblr, this isn’t looking like all it’s cracked up to be.

 

[trashbat]

this fucking jargon, i swear. reading the featured thread excerpt felt like the white wolf wiki noticed i haven't been visiting and followed me home. like i'll open the thread and it'll tell me that alters are organized into hobcovens governed by archpotentates, that archpotentates derive their power from the argotropolis (which is obviously a place in the Dreaming, you fucking moron), and that alters fear dry bread, the sight of which drives them into terreur-de-blé

 

[Tigerwatch]

Honestly, why doesn't Mel have his own thread by this point?

Because so much has been lost to the sands of time you couldn't make a very coherent thread, along with the fact I'm not sure if he's still active. If he is, I doubt it's anywhere near what he was like back in the day. All we have is our memories.

Confused here. I mean, I dont understand how these people function in society. You would think a tranny in a corset with cat ears would be at a grocery store and be like "Hello, bag keep! I'm a 12 year old cat girl, so put in a flea collar please, nyaaaa!" Would be a one way trip to a ward.

But like, even one of these idiots works with Google? Like, how is that possible?

Because they don't have any actual illnesses and don't switch or have their other alters front when they aren't online or around people who enable them.

 

[Melkor]

Speaking from personal experience (I ran into these people a lot in the past), these people who fake having an already scrutinized mental illness are probably the most irrational and manipulative people I have ever had the displeasure of running into.
They will latch onto fictional characters they like, claiming to BE them, and if you have the bad luck of getting on the "main alter"'s bad side, they can and will cut contact with you and then use the excuse that "x alter doesn't want to talk to you and uhhhh that front all the time."

And if you give them a completely reasonable choice to make--ex. "You can either keep purposefully ignoring me because x alter is fronting or actually talk to me about your issues with me", they will cry abuse.

 

[Billy_Sama]

The big rhetorical question with this thread is how many headmates does it take to change a lightbulb.

 

[The Man From G.R.I.D.S.]

If troons ever demonstrate knowledge of latin or aramaic its time to reconsider christianity.

 

[SqueakyShoes]

Oren Otter is also a Christian fundamentalist who runs his own furry church, and he despises gays. He's been around since the mid-1990s.

Well, now I'm confused. I browsed through the comic that was posted earlier in this thread - a few strips prior to the one posted, Oren claims to be a trans woman.

 

[OG 666]

It doesn't appear that any of the usual suspects have found out about the thread yet. In the meantime, here's some more fun content from the past few hours.

Sabrina's alters are talking to themselves.

Wynne and Marigold are getting intimate on Twitter.

I don't think I've brought up Kathryn yet, but he's (surprise!) a white transgender furry plural. He's currently very excited because he was approved for SRS.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

I'm surprised this thread was just created now.

I've stated it multiple times before;
The "accept everyone for who they are" movement has gone too far. These people are objectively broken and need to be fixed. Glorifying mental illness isn't cool, it's pathetic and it makes me wish for electroshock therapy to make a return.

(Slippery slope isn't a fallacy, it's a fact)

Except that the overwhelming majority of people still think these people are crazy.

 

[Catetive]

Spoiler: Powerlevel

oh fuck me i remember this shit
I was in a very stressful point in my life and was constantly freaking out, feeling randomly uncomfortable and got this weird obsession with a type of animal. I'd also get like nagging feelings and impulsiveness.
My circle of friends at the time told me it was probably a plurality like this and I ate that shit up because it made sense at the time. But really it was probably because I was breaking down from abuse and neglect from the people I thought cared about me. It was also used to basically guilt trip me about leaving an abusive working relationship with someone iirc?

"Good" times. A real fucked up way to convince people to rp with you, or to just guilt trip them. "Don't worry about those sudden feelings, it's probably just an alter!". Because yeah, suddenly launching into rp is weird, but it's not if it's a mental disorder and you're self-diagnosed with it.

Wow sick blog post bro, wanna tell the class about your plural alter rp a bit more?

 

[Particle Bored]

View attachment 578110I don't think I've brought up Kathryn yet, but he's (surprise!) a white transgender furry plural. He's currently very excited because he was approved for SRS.

It's nice that all the male-identifying headmates are cool with that. What a conveniently progressive and understanding bunch of blokes.

 

[mindlessobserver]

It's nice that all the male-identifying headmates are cool with that. What a conveniently progressive and understanding bunch of blokes.

I sure hope a doctor did not approve life changing surgery over someone so fucked in the head.

 

[Hecate]

I keep editing posts that do this shit and people can't take a hint.

If you believe your post is fucking embarrassing, either (a) don't post it or (b) don't declare your post embarrassing.

Like why do brainlets keep thinking that using :powerlevel: or spoiler tags is an excuse to say shit they know is against the rules because it makes the community look fucking gay and autistic? Fuck off

Edit: And I'm about to rip the rating emoticons out of the site entirely. On the second page these two posts are one right after the other.




The rating emotes were added for people in chat to use casually, because there are no ratings in chat. This decision has deteriorated conversation site-wide, given children an excuse to throw lucky charm shit into their post replacing real language, and given absolute fucking speds an 'excuse' to break forum rules by using them to prefix or quarantine paragraphs of their posts as if that fucking matters.

Just fucking stop.

I planned on making a shirt design using the ratings as lucky charms but I guess you came to that conclusion before me
Fuck

 

[MetalParakeet]

Way back in high school, a girl in my school tried this. It was sometime after finding Nemo and she decided her alter was Dori.

That's right. Her alter was a retarded fish.

I got shit on because I didn't believe her and refused to play into it. Apparently I was a terrible unsympathetic person because I wouldn't help "dori" find her way to class.

 

[Cosmos]

This shit actually makes me angry. I’m gonna go ahead and copypasta a post I made months ago on this topic:

Dissociative identity disorder is controversial in the psychology/mental health fields (some people think it’s real, some people think it’s fake, and some people think it’s real but very rare; I’m in the third camp, personally). That being said, there have been enough cases of it to establish a set of characteristics, which these people display none of.

• This is really important to understand: Dissociative identity disorder is characterized by a fragmentation, or splintering, of identity rather than by a proliferation, or growth, of separate identities. DID reflects a failure to integrate various aspects of identity, memory, and consciousness into a single multidimensional self. This is why the name "multiple personality disorder" was dropped back in the 90s.
• DID is always caused by extreme trauma (usually of a sexual nature) experienced during childhood. This trauma is usually recurrent (as in, it happens over and over). Essentially, DID happens when a child who is still developing their identity experiences something so traumatic that it literally causes their identity to shatter. The memories of the trauma are held by an "alter" (different personalities are professionally known as "alters" or "alter egos," not "headmates") so the main personality doesn't have to cope with it. This has been called "the mind's ultimate defense mechanism."
• People with DID are often completely unaware of their alters until they go to therapy. The only thing that tips them off is that they often experience huge chunks of missing time (for example, someone can be at home and then suddenly "wake up" to find themselves in a parking lot with no idea of how or when they got there).
• Going off on that, amnesia/frequent gaps in memory (especially regarding personal information) are essential to a DID diagnosis. If you're always aware of yourself and your surroundings, you don't have DID.
• People with DID have no control over when they switch with their alters. This is something that annoying LARPers get wrong all the time.
• In DID therapy, alters are not "eliminated". They are integrated into the main personality. This is because DID is seen as a condition where different aspects of your personality become independent/separate from the rest of your personality; the goal is to integrate them so you eventually have one main identity/personality like normal people.
• Anyone who claims that their "headmates" are mermaids/dragons/wolves/etc are full of shit. Alters are always human, although they may differ in age and/or gender.

 

[OG 666]

This shit actually makes me angry. I’m gonna go ahead and copypasta a post I made months ago on this topic:

Dissociative identity disorder is controversial in the psychology/mental health fields (some people think it’s real, some people think it’s fake, and some people think it’s real but very rare; I’m in the third camp, personally). That being said, there have been enough cases of it to establish a set of characteristics, which these people display none of.

• This is really important to understand: Dissociative identity disorder is characterized by a fragmentation, or splintering, of identity rather than by a proliferation, or growth, of separate identities. DID reflects a failure to integrate various aspects of identity, memory, and consciousness into a single multidimensional self. This is why the name "multiple personality disorder" was dropped back in the 90s.
• DID is always caused by extreme trauma (usually of a sexual nature) experienced during childhood. This trauma is usually recurrent (as in, it happens over and over). Essentially, DID happens when a child who is still developing their identity experiences something so traumatic that it literally causes their identity to shatter. The memories of the trauma are held by an "alter" (different personalities are professionally known as "alters" or "alter egos," not "headmates") so the main personality doesn't have to cope with it. This has been called "the mind's ultimate defense mechanism."
• People with DID are often completely unaware of their alters until they go to therapy. The only thing that tips them off is that they often experience huge chunks of missing time (for example, someone can be at home and then suddenly "wake up" to find themselves in a parking lot with no idea of how or when they got there).
• Going off on that, amnesia/frequent gaps in memory (especially regarding personal information) are essential to a DID diagnosis. If you're always aware of yourself and your surroundings, you don't have DID.
• People with DID have no control over when they switch with their alters. This is something that annoying LARPers like Kevin get wrong all the time.
• In DID therapy, alters are not "eliminated". They are integrated into the main personality. This is because DID is seen as a condition where different aspects of your personality become independent/separate from the rest of your personality; the goal is to integrate them so you eventually have one main identity/personality like normal people.
• Anyone who claims that their "headmates" are mermaids/dragons/wolves/etc are full of shit. Alters are always human, although they may differ in age and/or gender.

Yep. You pretty much already stated this, but it's worth reiterating: I think the thing that's most blatantly obvious about their delusion is the fact that they are fully aware of their "alters." They assign names and aesthetic preferences and personality traits to their alters and can just shift into them at will.

In a person with true DID, they often don't realize it until several years later in life, at which point they'll report "losing time" which is where they completely black out when another alter is in control. The idea that you can just consciously choose to switch into another alter whenever you feel like using new pronouns is laughable.

 

[Cosmos]

Yep. You pretty much already stated this, but it's worth reiterating: I think the thing that's most blatantly obvious about their delusion is the fact that they are fully aware of their "alters." They assign names and aesthetic preferences and personality traits to their alters and can just shift into them at will.

In a person with true DID, they often don't realize it until several years later in life, at which point they'll report "losing time" which is where they completely black out when another alter is in control. The idea that you can just consciously choose to switch into another alter whenever you feel like using new pronouns is laughable.

Exactly. Real DID is completely involuntary. It’s not a fun slumber party in your head, it’s a debilitating disorder that causes you to lose control over your own life. It’s hard to maintain relationships and live a normal life when you can lose consciousness at any moment and some other, unpredictable conscious takes over.

Also, because DID is born from trauma, switching alters usually takes place due to a trigger. For example, let’s say you developed DID because you were raped repeatedly by a family friend as a child. Something like smelling the same cologne your rapist wore could cause an alter to take over.