Plymouth shooting: Multiple fatalities in Keyham

If we want this to keep happening should we encourage and support British incels or bully them even more?
Mandatory Military Service needs to be put back in. Incels happen because young people think they can live hermit lives with no true friends (no your Discord friends are not your true friends) and then they're surprised that they can't make a romantic partner when they can't even find camaraderie.

"I'M AN INCEL A BLOO BLOO BLOO" no shit that women don't want to fuck you when you just sit at a keyboard all day. I'm certain 90 percent of Incels can't even do a Pushup.
 
Dude. It's a video of a shooting aftermath, fucking archive it.

Drugs and porn too, doesn't stop half the country in consuming it though.
Yeah, that was the point Captain Obvious.

Very few criminals over here can access guns. To get a gun you need to find the right person (although may be easier now with dark web), and have a fat stack of cash. Then you need to get the ammo. The difficulty and cost is way above what you would have to overcome in the US.
I'm guessing Canada is similar to the UK, because we usually are.
I've never held illegal firearms, but I know plenty of people with them. If someone has one illegal gun, they have several. Getting a gun is a fucking joke here. If someone wants a gun, they get one.

Instead of punishing law-abiding citizens, we should train them in self-defense so that they don't lock up in fear and know how to eliminate a hoodrat or schizo when they encounter one. Besides, killing deadbeats will just save the taxpayers money.
 
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Like many, I used to lurk on incel subs/forums to laugh at them and at some point I realised they were right about most things, and a lot of what's writen about them and their 'unreasonable' demands are complete fabrications. They 'blackpilled' me at some point, now I'm a staunch ally for them.
Considering the vilification of online incel groups which is being served by this incident, I was wondering about just that: do young men stumble across inceldom online and get into it, or do they experience it in life and then connect with people with similar experiences? I figured the latter, but you seem to be an example of the former.

Edit: just got caught up, and @Euler's identity beat me to that observation.
 
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This thread is weird, since it's been featured on the front page it's yoyo'ed from (rightly) mocking the hysteria and lies the feminists/MSM push about incels and their idiology, to regurgitating all these same BS talking points about them. I feel many here haven't actually spent any time on incel forums and see how they actually think. It's like the shithole incel thread on here, that's just a bunch of feminists pontificating over things the incels have never actually said, and intentionally distorting their ideas because deep down they know they're right about a lot of things.

Like many, I used to lurk on incel subs/forums to laugh at them and at some point I realised they were right about most things, and a lot of what's writen about them and their 'unreasonable' demands are complete fabrications. They 'blackpilled' me at some point, now I'm a staunch ally for them.

All this shit about how he was actually attractive enough to date a woman if he just 'scrubbed up' or he had 'body dysmorphia' etc. He was nowhere near attractive enough to attract women on online dating apps, which is pretty much he only place he was going to interact with women, I'd imagine he tried.

Also this tripe about incels wanting 9/10s or nothing is complete garbage, they rightly make the point that a bang average man, i.e. a 5/10, should have a reasonable shot at getting with a 4-5/10 girl. The reality is that is now almost impossible in these times, and that is completely unsustainable for society and is going to lead to disaster.

Really I'm suprised things like this haven't happened more often, honestly we should be thankful incels are as docile/depressed as they are.

A bang average normie dude is still overwhelmingly likely to end up with a bang average lassie. The point is, the incel "x/10" scale is calibrated purely by first-pass physical attractiveness, and this is not the scale that normie lassies are using. A 5/10 looking lad is no fucking use to you, an average looking lassie, if he has the social skills of Ed Gein. If you can't bring him around your friends and family without them saying "christ, he's a fucking weirdo, he stares all the time, he has no banter, he stares down the girls' tops all the time, is he retarded? Does he have autism or something?" then he's fuck all use to you as a boyfriend, because you can't fucking take him anywhere. He kills your social life if the other boyfriends think he's a daft cunt and your friends think he's a joke. You need a lad who fits in. It's okay if he's quiet as long as he doesn't offend anyone and always gets his round in. But he needs to fit in. This is how young women are; this how they have always been and the idea that incels have that lassies would accept any old weirdo "back in the day" is fucking BS.

Being Not A Fucking Weirdo is more important to the legendary boyfriend-free girls than having a good jawline or whatever the current incel blackpill currently is. Also, have a fucking job and a car. Girls do not want to go out with a guy who is constantly broke and poncing money off them. Might not be very nice to say, and "waaahhhh unfair terribad feminazis" but actually no, they just don't. Very few dudes are good looking enough that your average lassie will ride the bus everywhere with them in the winter. Constantly paying for your dates gets old when there are other, uglier, but more agreeable dudes with more money who will pay for the Nando's on a Saturday night and even be able to afford somewhere to have sex with you.

Incels think a "5/10" guy is a guy who they consider to be 5/10 on looks alone. Girls are not selecting by this metric. "Lives with his mum" past his late teens takes about 4, 5 points off that straight off the bat. There are few uglier nests of lads than the average intake of a medical degree in the UK, and yet they will all find some kind of wife if they want one. Because that career halo and earning potential bring heavy points to the "x/10" rating for normie lassies.

When people say to incels "there's no point in improving your looks much, it won't really help" it's not to blackpill or patronise them. It's to try and fucking explain that the incels are trying to statmax the wrong fucking stats.
 
I'm guessing Canada is similar to the UK, because we usually are.
I've never held illegal firearms, but I know plenty of people with them. If someone has one illegal gun, they have several. Getting a gun is a fucking joke here. If someone wants a gun, they get one.

Instead of punishing law-abiding citizens, we should train them in self-defense so that they don't lock up in fear and know how to eliminate a hoodrat or schizo when they encounter one. Besides, killing deadbeats will just save the taxpayers money.
Yeah guns are quite easy to get in Toronto for instance, provided you know some sketchy people. I could fly there tonight and have a gun in my hand before the weekend is over. Serious drug dealers tend to have guns up there just like in the US, and the ones who don’t have guns just carry bear mace or illegal telescoping batons instead. It’s beyond fucking absurd that a woman can’t buy pepper spray for self defense while criminals can get whatever the fuck they want ez.

My guess is that guns are at least somewhat more difficult to get in the UK compared to Canada though given they don’t share a border with the US, but if a socially retarded incel can get one then anyone can lmao
 
With follicles like that, he should've been mining ore in a mountain cave, not concerning himself with the divinest of fruits. Wasted potential!
 
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A bang average normie dude is still overwhelmingly likely to end up with a bang average lassie. The point is, the incel "x/10" scale is calibrated purely by first-pass physical attractiveness, and this is not the scale that normie lassies are using. A 5/10 looking lad is no fucking use to you, an average looking lassie, if he has the social skills of Ed Gein. If you can't bring him around your friends and family without them saying "christ, he's a fucking weirdo, he stares all the time, he has no banter, he stares down the girls' tops all the time, is he retarded? Does he have autism or something?" then he's fuck all use to you as a boyfriend, because you can't fucking take him anywhere. He kills your social life if the other boyfriends think he's a daft cunt and your friends think he's a joke. You need a lad who fits in. It's okay if he's quiet as long as he doesn't offend anyone and always gets his round in. But he needs to fit in. This is how young women are; this how they have always been and the idea that incels have that lassies would accept any old weirdo "back in the day" is fucking BS.

Being Not A Fucking Weirdo is more important to the legendary boyfriend-free girls than having a good jawline or whatever the current incel blackpill currently is. Also, have a fucking job and a car. Girls do not want to go out with a guy who is constantly broke and poncing money off them. Might not be very nice to say, and "waaahhhh unfair terribad feminazis" but actually no, they just don't. Very few dudes are good looking enough that your average lassie will ride the bus everywhere with them in the winter. Constantly paying for your dates gets old when there are other, uglier, but more agreeable dudes with more money who will pay for the Nando's on a Saturday night and even be able to afford somewhere to have sex with you.

Incels think a "5/10" guy is a guy who they consider to be 5/10 on looks alone. Girls are not selecting by this metric. "Lives with his mum" past his late teens takes about 4, 5 points off that straight off the bat. There are few uglier nests of lads than the average intake of a medical degree in the UK, and yet they will all find some kind of wife if they want one. Because that career halo and earning potential bring heavy points to the "x/10" rating for normie lassies.

When people say to incels "there's no point in improving your looks much, it won't really help" it's not to blackpill or patronise them. It's to try and fucking explain that the incels are trying to statmax the wrong fucking stats.
I used to think this; that I was just too picky. Then I encountered the women my friends were dating/fucking. Women who were the best catches they could find. They were often uglier than my friends, yet acted like they were God's gift to the fucking planet. If the relationship went sour, they'd immediately show their true colors, and try to cancel them irl. Many 'friends' have been corrupted and lost through this. We're at a point now where most of my brothers are not dating women because they're scared of what they could do to them, and I've taken the memo and drawn out my latest celibacy period indefinitely.

These women all came from dating apps. Now, you may say 'don't use dating apps hur dur', but do me a favor and try that. Seriously, try to find an irl date when literally everyone and their grandmother is using dating apps. Try to strike a convo at a bar, and get laid that way, in today's day and age. Try it, I dare you. The only long term relationship in my entire friend group involves the only girl in our circle. That's how dire the dating game is rn. Women have complete, utter tyrannical control over the dating game, because the companies making these apps are making them for women. When you combine that with feminism and OnlyFans, female narcissism is at an all time high.

As the only non-straight in my circle, I have experience with homo dating apps like grindr. The difference is so night and day that it makes me hate women even more. I can get laid on grindr, or find a relationship, within 30 minutes. I know I'm attractive, because as soon as I update my profile I'm getting 15 or so notifications and unsolicited dick pics. Yet if I go on tinder, crickets. Why? Because I'm not 'daddy' age yet, and I'm as financially stable as the women I'm scrolling through. The only time I got messages on tinder was when I was a drug dealer.

In my time on/off with dating apps, I've only come across one girl that was normal. ONE. I'm not talking about matches btw, I'm talking about profiles I've swiped.

Women are whores. Not because women are inherently bad, but because we've made life too easy for them.
Around 40% of the world lives by convenience first, now imagine how they'd act if they got everything handed to them on a silver platter. Women rn act like they're all trust fund babies. I'm terrified to see what actual trust fund babies act like these days.

The problem with incels is not that they're wrong, because they're very, very right. The problem is that they're pieces of shit to begin with. Men who also live by convenience first, but are smart enough to realize that the dating game is hopeless. However, instead of moving on, they can't ignore their dick. They then continue to try and find dates, while using their blackpills and the aforementioned life by convenience, as an excuse not to groom themselves.
 
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Hey I'm a proud goddess (dm me for venmo) and seeing this sickening display of the maletocracy (males are crazy get it lol) is indicative of the state of the "manosphere". It's obvious due to the cyber aspect of this crime that men should have limited or no ability to comment and view some if not most subreddits. I have written a letter to the Reddit admins and hope you will support me in this.
 
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When I was 15 I used to go down the pub with my mate, she'd meet up with guys in their mid 20s. I'd find these guys suspect, sadly my mate didnt.

Anyhoo, another guy raised by a single mother? It's funny how toxic masculinity is almost solely produced by homes with no male role model, isn't it?

Cultural Marxism and it's discontents.
Wonder why he didn't have a male role model?
 
I do believe there are no good reasons for anyone in the UK to own a gun apart from people who need it for their job. We have no constitutional right to bear arms, the police apart from a select few don't carry them, and as a country we have been without them for a very long time and are doing ok. The arguments related to taking guns away from Americans do not apply here.

All stopping licences and preventing the sale of guns will do is piss off a few target shooting faggots who will need to find a new hobby. Of course criminals will still find a way to get them, but it would at least keep them out the hands of speds like this loser.
I'm gonna drink another beer and shoot my shotgun off my back deck just to wipe this eurocuckery from my mind.
 
I think we need incel killings from time to time so people can let off steam. All those murders, rapes and terrorist attacks from people you aren’t allowed to criticize, it’s really nice when it’s a white guy for once and you can have your five minutes of hate. Has to be incel (ugly) too, or women would naturally start idolizing him instead.
 
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