Plymouth shooting: Multiple fatalities in Keyham

[Caesare]

Probably going to need some citation for this.

I don't much much about the demographic but all you hear about is the white ones

Of course you do, that's by careful design. The media are cowards and they are afraid to ever show a nigger or sandnigger in even a slightly negative light, so they naturally focus on White individuals.

My source is, when I wanted to find out more about incels (because the entire concept sounds insane to me) I went to a few forums where they frequent and read a lot of their postings and looked at the pictures they would sometimes upload of themselves for critique for possible self improvement via surgery/weightloss etc. White posters were a clear minority, and I forgot to add in my prior post so I'll edit it in, Indians were clearly the majority on these sites (and we all know how bad they are with women, we have a whole thread dedicated to this).

In fact, there is a lot of argument amongst members of these websites that are part of the incel community, whether White individuals can even be considered incels because they have an obvious advantage, as they believe that minority women will accept, date, and marry a White dork long before even looking in their direction because they believe that their women (especially Indians, asians, and blacks) ultimately crave White dick and will do everything in their power to get one.

I don't nessacerily recommend reading their forums because it's not particularly enjoyable. It isn't as much "lol look at all these losers congregating in one place for me to ridicule for my own enjoyment", it's more just reading through the desperate, increasingly suicidal posts of a whole lot of extremely depressed people and it's not much fun at all.

But if you want confirmation that I am correct, go see for yourself. It's majority Indians (dot not feather), blacks, asians, and arabs. There are Whites as well, but they are the clear minority.

I believed the popular opinion and the media hype too before looking into it myself. I thought it was all a bunch of retaards who demanded sex because they were scared of women or something, but it's much more nuanced and complicated than that.

It's not all sex starved, social misfits who are demanding pussy. There may be some of that, but that is in no way the prevailing attitude. I'd say most of them are extremely lonely, young people who desire companionship much more than sexual gratification. Which makes sense to me, as pussy is one of the most overrated things there is. Much more plausible than the media's narrative every time one of these psychopaths shoots a bunch of innocent people because they're starved for sex.

No one besides an incel amputee that has no money should ever be starved for sex.

 

[Judgment Boy]

Tbh his chances may have been better if he'd even just learned fucking punctuation.
Nothing screams "unhinged" more than posting often on Reddit never using a comma or period.

Also just realized my other post got taken by the rollback, but it bears repeating:
An incel's biggest issue is taking themselves too seriously.
Having a sense of self-awareness and humor is an absolute fucking game changer in dating, no matter what else you lack. Damn near any woman could tell you that.
Stop the super villain LARP and learn to take a joke.

I'm not saying that'll 100% get you that Miami 10er, and no it won't make your dad come back after 15 years. But at the very least, I can promise that life is much less shit if you can sit back and laugh about it.
You can't blame being stinky and fat on everything, and being so easy to set off makes no one able to sympathize with you no matter how valid your issues may be.

Other than that, this specific shooting wasn't even incel-related. Yes, he was an incel, but he left no great manifesto, no uprising promises, no "it's time." messages, nada. With all the evidence that's been presented, this was a domestic case turned spree killing. Tacking on the 'incel' moniker is absolutely a spark to a fearmongering fire. It'll work, we all know it, but it's just kind of shitty that they're sweeping the actual issue that sent him over the edge under the rug in favor of a label that will do nothing but worsen everything for everyone else.

 

[DumbDude42]

In fact, there is a lot of argument amongst members of these websites that are part of the incel community, whether White individuals can even be considered incels because they have an obvious advantage, as they believe that minority women will accept, date, and marry a White dork long before even looking in their direction because they believe that their women (especially Indians, asians, and blacks) ultimately crave White dick and will do everything in their power to get one.

"just be white theory" = arguments that white dudes can't be incel, usually posted together with pictures of dweeby looking white nerds with asian girlfriends
"currycel" "ricecel" etc = self identifying terms used by indian / asian incels
"ethnicel" = same as above except referring to any non white minority incel
they have an entire wiki full of these terms lol

incel killers are usually depicted as white by media, but when you actually look into them the result is different
>marc lepine: mixed race white/north african (white mother, algerian father)
>elliot rodger: mixed race white/asian (white father, malaysian mother)
>alek minassian: mixed asian (iranian mother, armenian father)
these are the three most well known incel killers that i remember right now. there was a fourth one who shot up a restaurant somewhere in america, in the 1980s or 90s i think, but i can't remember his name, he was white though i believe. and i have seen people refer to cho seung hui (the korean virginia tech shooter) as incel because he apparently had a history of being a creepy weirdo with women in his classes, but i'm not sure whether he really fits the label or whether he was just a general psychotic loon

 

[thegooddoctor]

A 3 year old was amongst the deaths, how awful, Incels deserve to be Satan’s chew toy and the lowest scum of the Internet.

 

[xXRonPaul_42020Xx]

I heard reports when this shooting first happened that this guy was involved in Satanism but the incel stuff has buried those search results and searching for "satanism" in this thread gives 0 results. Anyone else remember this?

 

[Euler's identity]

I heard reports when this shooting first happened that this guy was involved in Satanism but the incel stuff has buried those search results and searching for "satanism" in this thread gives 0 results. Anyone else remember this?

It was in The Sun. I wouldn't give much credence to it tbh.

 

[xXRonPaul_42020Xx]

It was in The Sun. I wouldn't give much credence to it tbh.

The one Im remembering mentioned him being active on a forum dedicated to Satanism and having books/paraphernalia

 

[Euler's identity]

The one Im remembering mentioned him being active on a forum dedicated to Satanism and having books/paraphernalia

Ah right, I didn't come across that.

 

[Steinercard]

As someone from the UK I'm really struggling to figure out how a lazy autist and incel got his hands on a shotgun. Even with a licence (which are hard to obtain as is) it's hard to get a small pistol. let alone a fucking shotgun. It's not like you can pop down to Asda or Tesco and ask for a Winchester alongside that copy of the new CoD.

 

[Kaiser Wilhelm's Ghost]

As someone from the UK I'm really struggling to figure out how a lazy autist and incel got his hands on a shotgun. Even with a licence (which are hard to obtain as is) it's hard to get a small pistol. let alone a fucking shotgun. It's not like you can pop down to Asda or Tesco and ask for a Winchester alongside that copy of the new CoD.

Shotguns are singlehandedly the easiest thing to buy in the UK firearms market. Shotguns make up 80% of shooting hobbyist, and the shotgun cert is the easiest to apply for.

You just gotta jump through some hoops, but it's not that difficult. It's just annoying.

Shotgun and firearm certificates - GOV.UK

You need a firearm or shotgun certificate issued by the police to possess, buy or acquire a firearm or shotgun, and buy ammunition

www.gov.uk

Join a shooting club and do a safety course, this will pretty much pre-approve you from a constabulary point of view. Also gun safe's are sometimes more expensive than the actual shotguns you can get. (Old single shot in rough shape will set you back around £90.)

 

[DumbDude42]

As someone from the UK I'm really struggling to figure out how a lazy autist and incel got his hands on a shotgun. Even with a licence (which are hard to obtain as is) it's hard to get a small pistol. let alone a fucking shotgun. It's not like you can pop down to Asda or Tesco and ask for a Winchester alongside that copy of the new CoD.

shotguns and rifles are generally easier to get than handguns, because handguns are much better suited for use by criminals due to how easy they are to conceal

 

[Bra Stacks]

Retard should’ve just gone to afganistan and join the taliban. He would’ve gotten to chimp out with a gun and get a government mandated wife at the end of it.

Or just troon out and guilt some dumb liberal women to jump on his lesbogirldick, which seems to be a popular incel trajectory lately.

 

[DetectiveDuBois]

Did he post here?

 

[Chamulum]

telling incels to kill themselves isn't gonna convince anybody lol, it's the exact same treatment they're used to from women already anyway
if anything it just further reinforces their views

But they should kill themselves.

 

[George Lucas]

People in Britain being retarded isn’t a happening.

 

[PetrifiedTom]

What a great lad.

 

[Beautiful Border]

As someone from the UK I'm really struggling to figure out how a lazy autist and incel got his hands on a shotgun. Even with a licence (which are hard to obtain as is) it's hard to get a small pistol. let alone a fucking shotgun. It's not like you can pop down to Asda or Tesco and ask for a Winchester alongside that copy of the new CoD.

What do you mean? Shotguns are by far the easiest type of firearm to legally obtain in the UK, it's not even close. Pistols are almost completely prohibited in comparison (unless you live in Northern Ireland).

 

[Euler's identity]

Plymouth shooting inquest hears chilling rampage details after gunman 'rowed with mum'

Shooting inquest hears harrowing rampage details after gunman 'rowed with mum'

Maxine Davison, 51, Stephen Washington, 59, and Kate Shepherd, 66, as well as father and daughter Lee Martyn, 43, and Sophie Martyn, three, were all cruelly killed in the horrific shooting

www.mirror.co.uk

Archive

 

[JaneThough]

Oh no, I agree with you on that. Never said I didn't. People in general need to take more responsibility for their choices, and that applies to who they choose to have sex with and reproduce with. But there is a very serious issue in the UK of women getting pregnant by men who are less than stellar parent material. Lots of us labour under the delusion our womb products will "change" a man or "make him better" and it's one of the single biggest, and most dangerous lies out there. We only change for ourselves.

And even if she did just "hook up" with him, nobody forced her to carry the pregnancy to term and keep it. Or to keep the child if she considered abortion unconscionable. Single parent hood happens for many, many reasons,but ultimately, if a parent finds themselves so, they're doing their child a grave disservice by not bothering to find people to be in their childs life of the gender of the absent parent.


I'm not sure what your point is, because I don't disagree with you. I'm not sure if it's "incel" to talk about sexual restraint, but if it is, then colour me a female incel, I guess, though I'm not really sure I understand what inceldom really is, beyond it being men who are angry they can't get laid.

I mean, to be fair her parents should have just never gotten married and had her. Why are we blaming the poor incel who shot a 3 yr old when we can blame his great-great grandmother because she probably flashed an ankle once.

 

[Flabba Wabba Jabba]

Probably going to need some citation for this.

I don't much much about the demographic but all you hear about is the white ones

Oy vey goyim what's that about multi-race incels? No way goy they're all whiiiiiiiiite!