Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Kari Kamiya]

Absolute autism has returned.

 

[anliteralidiot]

Is that a prototype Barboach? Cute

I think it's still whishcash, since it has the W on its head, for wumbo whishcash.
The PPG thread has been posting real leaks again, so here's some sprites that I like.

And I guess this? It looks like the art of the proto megas, that looked like Monster Hunter... It also looks like monster hunter, and might be a fossil?

 

[Caesar]

think it's still whishcash, since it has the W on its head, for wumbo whishcash.

Well it might have had a W name at some point to be fair! If it is a Barboach I think I prefer the final but only because that one isn't different enough.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

No I mean Keiran is a tween and Ogrepon has been there hundreds of years lol. But they could say he had some sort of Zoroark style illusion and amnesia going on, to protect himself from his memories and give him a chance to be an insider not an outsider or whatever.

He’s a Legendary that changes form based on wearing masks. Seems purpose built for some illusion or form change stuff going on.

the player doesn't visit blueberry until after kitakami, so that doesn't make sense. how would we knowingly do anything involving kieran?

Because we knowingly lied to him in part one. Us being a terrible friend plays into everything.

i don't know why that's suddenly the child being a dick?

I don’t think prople should lie to their friends.

how are WE the dick when the older people are the ones manipulating the pc into these things

Because we don’t tell them to pound sand. Alas they give us no option.

so, other people stonewalling him, when we had no permission from people considerably older than us to tell him, is our fault? do you apply this logic to real children

Yes and yes. Chikdren don’t like friends lying to them. Friends shouldn’t lie. A child will certainly view it as your fault, even when it isn’t, as Kieran does.

you refuse to actually acknowledge the really shitty behavior he has to his classmates in blueberry academy afterward

No, I said that from everything we see, of course he’s going to be a shitty person. And a big part of me feels he has every right to be everything considered. That’s what gets results and his school is a ranking system based on those results. As proven by the former Ace. And therefore is it really shitty or just what needs to be done to rank highly at school and therefore expected? And as shown in DLC 1, trying to be good got Kieran nothing.

Seriously, the school head could probably do with being fired. Got off way lighter than protag’s school did.

Gen 9 in general being about terrible schools and family was a very interesting direction. Made for real good and interesting stories.

People say they want Pokemon to be more mature and tackle more stuff, I think it a lot of ways it has been since at least Gen 5. They don’t always land but they are very clearly trying.

The fact there's even this much to say about him and his motivations shows how far the writing came in gen 9 IMO.

Oh god, it’s got so much better.

Arvens story was better, but Keirans more satisfying.

I still think ‘oh my god, your parent was a dick’ is the funniest final statment for a final antagonist to go out on.

Pennyy’s ‘i hacked your bank’ followed up by Geeta going ‘do you want a job?’ Is also rather funny.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

Because we knowingly lied to him in part one. Us being a terrible friend plays into everything.

I don’t think prople should lie to their friends.

we're not his friend. he has never met us until that day and the next day. there's no reason for you to consider yourself kieran's friend any more than you were silver's friend. maybe by the end, but certainly not at the beginning.

Because we don’t tell them to pound sand. Alas they give us no option.

genuine flaw of the dlc, agreed.

Friends shouldn’t lie. A child will certainly view it as your fault, even when it isn’t, as Kieran does.

again, kieran and you JUST met. you are not his friend. if anything you became instant rivals.

Oh god, it’s got so much better.

arven's story is pretty damn good. i like nemona as a character, and i enjoy penny's battle theme, but arven is the best of the 3 'rivals' in the base game.

i'm fine with disagreeing on this, it's just a difference in how we see the relationship the character has with kieran. you see them as a friend, and because of that the player is betraying kieran, which brings more justification to his rise to villainy for a bit (on the level of children, of course)

i see it as, these children just met each other and do not know each other. you, someone who does not know kieran, are being told what to do by others, and it's not really cool for you to disobey them because you're a boarding school student.

 

[Archeops]

Lmao.

Shiny Meloetta requires the limited time event Paradox Mons but not the mythical that unlocks the final part of the DLC.

Oh, that is some grade A bullshit. I mean, I already have 'em in both Scarlet and Violet but that's just retarded.

I think it's still whishcash, since it has the W on its head, for wumbo whishcash.
The PPG thread has been posting real leaks again, so here's some sprites that I like.
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And I guess this? It looks like the art of the proto megas, that looked like Monster Hunter... It also looks like monster hunter, and might be a fossil?
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Damn it, I would’ve loved seeing a little skull kiwi evolving into fucking cassowary

 

[Caesar]

Fire? Why?



Edit Steel was going to be weak to electric also

Power plant pics found



Max was originally to be a second rival and their younger brother in ORAS

 

[Archeops]

Max was originally to be a second rival and their younger brother in ORAS

Oh sweet Jesus fuck that would’ve gotten annoying quickly. Max is a genuinely awful character in the anime (especially the Jirachi movie, he had a little pissy fit over May harmlessly counting the nights on a “wish-granting” charm).

 

[Caesar]

Oh sweet Jesus fuck that would’ve gotten annoying quickly. Max is a genuinely awful character in the anime (especially the Jirachi movie, he had a little pissy fit over May harmlessly counting the nights on a “wish-granting” charm).

I tuned out after Johto but he does look annoying.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

Bleh, that type chart is actually worse than what we got

Bug is already an inferior type to begin with, making it weak to Fairy would be like "lol why even have a bug type in the first place?"

Also Poison not having something else to easily kill would have sucked. Fire is already OP-ish, giving it another thing to cripple would make it just as good as Fighting and Ground

Giving something that Ice types resist IS a good idea on paper, but in practice that would require either making more new elements or revamping the entire element chart. IMO trying to buff Ice NOW defensively is too little too late.

 

[Caesar]

Bug is already an inferior type to begin with, making it weak to Fairy would be like "lol why even have a bug type in the first place?"

It would be nice if they at least resisted each other - it would kind if be on brand with the whole normal/ghost/bug triangle idea they originally had where they're based on fears (not that you'd be scared of faries, but it kinda fits with ghost and normal).

Its just Bug and Fighting that resist each other atm, right?

 

[6MillionCoofs]

we're not his friend.

We spend the entire game making friends with everyone else but the one dude that actually really wants to be. It’s a strange choice methinks. As is us suddenly caring about rules. As you say, we just disagree on this. And honestly, story is really good from either viewpoint.

arven's story is pretty damn good. i like nemona as a character, and i enjoy penny's battle theme, but arven is the best of the 3 'rivals' in the base game.

I’m still sad that it is revealed Nemona is just a ditz at ball throwing and the wrist thing isn’t because she threw so many balls because she is that Pokemon obsessed that she broke wrecked hercarm.

Penny is pretty great all around. Not giving her a new Eeveelution was a crime.

(on the level of children, of course)

That’s one thing I like about Gen 7 - Gen 9. The villains by and large are honestly relatable to children and acting as such.

 

[Registration]

A baby...
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Wrong. This is a baby

They ruined this little fella into a Pikachu clone... Never forgive ..

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

We spend the entire game making friends with everyone else but the one dude that actually really wants to be. It’s a strange choice methinks. As is us suddenly caring about rules. As you say, we just disagree on this. And honestly, story is really good from either viewpoint.

it's more that we make friends with them over time. you spend the entire titan quest making friends with arven, and he warms up to you over time. nemona is always just battle obsessed and excited to groom you into a top tier ace trainer, and penny doesn't reveal who she really is (despite it being obvious) until the end of the entire team star questline. kieran's major dick moments are along the way of his questline, and by the end of it we are his friend, or at least, one day we probably will be.

Penny is pretty great all around. Not giving her a new Eeveelution was a crime.

she had the best theme in the whole game. that song goes fucking crazy.

That’s one thing I like about Gen 7 - Gen 9. The villains by and large are honestly relatable to children and acting as such.

team skull have a great encounter theme, too. it's just some kind of weird vocalizations about team skull.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I tuned out after Johto but he does look annoying.

He is. I stand by what I thought back then. ‘He should have been Wally’

Max even straight up befriends a Ralts and promises to come back for it when he is an actual trainer.

 

[Caesar]

They ruined this little fella into a Pikachu clone... Never forgive ..

Plusle and Minun are the best pikaclones, they're not trying to pretend they're not and they are cute.

I wish they had slightly better stats though given they don't evolve. I know they're more for support but still.

I need to use one on my team one day.

Edit Morpeko is alright aswell but his gimmick is pretty useless. It's cool that his move changes type when he's in hangry mode, but it's not a great move lol

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Plusle and Minun are the best pikaclones, they're not trying to pretend they're not and they are cute.

No. Mimikyu. Because it realises it isn’t and says ‘fuck it, imma wear Pikachu as a skin’

 

[Caesar]

No. Mimikyu. Because it realises it isn’t and says ‘fuck it, imma wear Pikachu as a skin’

I don't really like Mimikyu. He's not an electric type or a rodent either so I don't fully count him as a pikaclone.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Max was originally to be a second rival and their younger brother in ORAS

Lmao I can't believe they thought this was a good idea. Least they scrapped it.

 

[anliteralidiot]

Power plant pics found

There's a Mother 3/Earthbound 64 vibe to them...