Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[I_Lurk_Here]

Just want to say that Mariomon has been fun so far.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

why doesn’t chandelure though? At least as a hidden ability

Better yet, why doesn't the magnemite line? It's pokedex entries are constantly saying it hovers in the air all the time.

 

[30+GameOvers]

Better yet, why doesn't the magnemite line? It's pokedex entries are constantly saying it hovers in the air all the time.

One of the romhacks I played(NeXt Gen I think) has it but it doesn't bring much to the table. It can still be easily taken out with a fire or fighting move.
Magnemite line's job is to to keep threats like Skarmory at bay with Magnet Pull. Take that away and you have yet another generic shitmon with a unique typing that's more of a detriment than anything. Even Levitate can't save it, altho it would be interesting to have both options via Hidden Ability.

 

[Grayback]

Western fans eat it all up tho, as they're mostly trannies or their grooming victims.

You've gotta stop with the endless retarded seething at some point.

 

[30+GameOvers]

You've gotta stop with the endless retarded seething at some point.

Is there a lie in that statement, tho?

 

[Grayback]

Is there a lie in that statement, tho?

Yes. That was the point.

It is not true, not even in some hyperbolic sense, that Western fans all simply "eat up" DEI shit. Not "all" of them, not "most" of them, not even "a plurality" of them. And they're the most vocal critics pushing back against it.
If you want to lament that DEI has any foothold in the games industry at all? Go ahead. Almost a decade late, but sure, knock yourself out talking about that part of it. But it's just not true that Western fans are okay with this stuff.
Or that Western fans are "mostly trannies or their grooming victims." Do I even have to address that one? Is this a serious claim? I can break out percentages and definitions and show just how rare that shit actually is if I really have to. But there is just no world in which some massive constituency of grooming victims are dictating the state of Pokémon or the wider industry.

This stuff is not close to being true. It's not even at least pointing in the direction of some truth about the fanbase that anyone else can then go on to have a discussion about. It's just shitposting.
You're mad about DEI even being a thing, let along something that we have to deal with in the stuff that we like. I get it, me too. But you can't use that as an excuse to just make stuff up.

 

[Computer God Autism]

But there is just no world in which some massive constituency of grooming victims are dictating the state of Pokémon or the wider industry.

While I agree with the general sentiment, there is a constituency of grooming victims - as loose as that term has become - that are dictating the state of the wider industry. They just happen to be staffing the HR and Social Media departments of these companies, the consulting firms that they source to and the games journalists that report on their products.

Coincidentally all of those people are, on average, too incompetent to even play baby games well.

 

[Grayback]

there is a constituency of grooming victims - as loose as that term has become - that are dictating the state of the wider industry. They just happen to be staffing the HR and Social Media departments

I see what you're getting at—but at that point, I think that the term becomes so stretched by the metaphor as to lose its original meaning.

Are these people being influenced by their schooling, their community, or the social media that they grew up with, and has that stuff changed them into different people? Sure, you can say that. There are more factors at play, but those influences can and surely do play a part in turning them into what they become.
Is that similar to actual "grooming?" Ehhhhhh, in the vaguest sense. And surely some actual grooming does happen in rare cases.
But does it support the claim that "Western fans [are] mostly trannies or their grooming victims," though? No. That's my main issue.

 

[30+GameOvers]

Yes. That was the point.

"Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States"​

This statement says everything about Pokemon fans you need to know. Every single post about SV from Japanese I've seen shits on the games, nearly every single post from Western fans praises or defends the games. It seems people who don't like a broken tech demo are in the minority within the fandom, or have moved on and don't even pay attention to the series anymore.
Pokemon is filled with peak consumerist goyslop eating niggercattle, the absolute worst in the entire industry barring some outliers like gacha whales. Westerners are to blame for that the most. Even a cursory glance within the community shows that it will tolerate the worst SV throws at them and they won't do much other than midly complain about it. When the time comes to consoom another DLC or game? They still open their wallets.
Oh, and of course, the absolute lack of taste and inability to protest even the most indefensible aspects of the games does lead to the same fans openly accepting the DEI aspects of the community, either out of fear of being cancelled or because they're that fucking gone and don't see a problem with it. There is also direct correlation between autism and being trans, which this fandom has no shortage of. Shall I keep going?
Granted, I can't prove that Japanese aren't contributing to any of these factors, but I can tell you right now there is definitely a disproportionate amount of Westerners who praise DEI aspect of the games and spread their degeneracy within the fandom. It is definitely the far, far worse side of the fanbase in almost every regard.
The fact that there is still a debate on whetever this fandom is infested with troons and other garbage when the franchise openly celebrates DEI agendas goes to show just how dogshit it truly is. Are we going to argue if SV and Sword/Shield were "actually bad" next? What other retarded topic with an obvious answer can we come up with to discuss in this thread?

 

[I was a Teenage “JA”-man]

That’s kinda what I came to ask in the first place do people actually like Scarlet and violet? I hear people defending it but I played it and even without the bugs it’s still a depressing game 90% of paldea is brown dirt, you’re all alone with no trainers, and cities that bleed out in contrast and the overall apathy of “eh just do what you want” and they’ll eat it up because it’s open world.

 

[Computer God Autism]

or have moved on and don't even pay attention to the series anymore.

Correct, most people who don't like a broken tech demo got out of the series before it got to that point because they saw the writing on the wall with Gen 6/7 or just grew out of Pokemon as a hobby.

We're a few weeks away from Emerald's 20th anniversary in NA. Two decades. The zoomers who grew up on Gens 3-5 have either largely moved on or are content playing romhacks or sticking with stuff that can be played on a DS. Gen Alpha - millennial-spawn - have no frame of reference, of course they don't care about a broken tech demo slathered in DEI that their parents get them.

The Japanese contribute by driving up those sales numbers more than any single western country; 4 million out of the 10 million at launch, and 8.3 million out of 26 million (just over 30%) as of last year, selling more than the original games even did. The Japanese, for as much as they may be willing to criticize SV more than twitter troons, are still placid and still buy.

 

[30+GameOvers]

That’s kinda what I came to ask in the first place do people actually like Scarlet and violet? I hear people defending it but I played it and even without the bugs it’s still a depressing game 90% of paldea is brown dirt, you’re all alone with no trainers, and cities that bleed out in contrast and the overall apathy of “eh just do what you want” and they’ll eat it up because it’s open world.

Nobody who is a big fan of former games really liked it. Casuals who have no clue what they're doing and generally don't even tend to reach The Elite Four loved it because it's the same bland open world slop they crave 24/7 now. Outsiders to the franchise largely just mocked it for all the bugs and how incomplete it was.
So no, SV wasn't really liked, and it's an insult to really even imply that you're a fan of SV. It's also quite an insult to the fanbase itself that this game outsold all the other entries, including the lifetime Green Red Blue sales. Goes to show how awful the modern Pokemon fanbase is, the worse it gets the more it sells. The more troons and faggots it has too both in the games and in the community, funny how that works.

The Japanese contribute by driving up those sales numbers more than any single western country; 4 million out of the 10 million at launch, and 8.3 million out of 26 million (just over 30%) as of last year, selling more than the original games even did. The Japanese, for as much as they may be willing to criticize SV more than twitter troons, are still placid and still buy.

That's why I didn't completely let them off the hook in my post, Japanese are always bread and butter for the sales figures and those SV sales had to come from somewhere. That said, I still stand by that they are not nearly as open to the DEI aspects and general troonery of the franchise as Western side is.

 

[AnotherPleb]

why doesn’t chandelure though? At least as a hidden ability

145 Special attack and one of the most spammable Stab combos around.

EDIT: Not to mention that between Flash Fire and Levitate it would have 2 immunity abilities - while 9 times out of 10 Levitate is better it would improve Flash Fire in the right team setup.

Better yet, why doesn't the magnemite line? It's pokedex entries are constantly saying it hovers in the air all the time.

120 Special Attack and the fact that it would have only Fighting and Fire as weaknesses in gen 3.

 

[Thiletonomics]

The Japanese contribute by driving up those sales numbers more than any single western country; 4 million out of the 10 million at launch, and 8.3 million out of 26 million (just over 30%) as of last year, selling more than the original games even did. The Japanese, for as much as they may be willing to criticize SV more than twitter troons, are still placid and still buy.

I still wonder who has the bigger Stockholm Syndrome at this point with buying buggy slop games, the Japanese that still bought S/V, or the Western women that buy EA's broken ass DLCs for The Sims 4 so that EA milks that game for over a decade.

 

[Abella]

I’m honestly surprised that I was able to find packs of journey together at a Walmart. I find the idea of chasing restocks to be retarded and the people who do it always clean out the shelves because they have no self control. It was nice to be able to crack a couple of packs with my wife and pulls a couple of hits, but I have a feeling if I go back tomorrow they’ll be cleaned out.

The scalpers created this mentality in so many people where they have to chase every single restock and buy as much as they can. I work with this woman who chases the restocks and she’ll try to gloat about spending $300+ in one trip and how it’s almost compulsive at this point. Like that’s not fun either and if you’re doing that for a hobby to try to beat out scalpers or avoid FOMO you have other problems.

 

[Registration]

The vp anon said he will fix it later but he kinda finished the first 150. He will give them shinies and also add the gender differences and also fix some colorings.

For those who don't know, these sprites are based on ken sugimori illustrations.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

The vp anon said he will fix it later but he kinda finished the first 150. He will give them shinies and also add the gender differences and also fix some colorings.

For those who don't know, these sprites are based on ken sugimori illustrations.

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Shit like this makes me wish GF went back to sprite art.

Although I doubt CY+GF could do anything this good.

 

[Registration]

Shit like this makes me wish GF went back to sprite art.

Although I doubt CY+GF could do anything this good.

They could do live 2d with the illustrations. Not even sprites.

They brought up the character illustrations on the XY/ORAS

 

[Coldsteel the Hedgehog]

Live 2D would fuck hard, now that you mention it. It'd be really similar to the gen 5 sprites but in higher definition.

Think, game freak, in the f2p titles you could even sell skins for pokemon with various TCG/Sugimori art!

 

[anliteralidiot]

The vp anon said he will fix it later but he kinda finished the first 150. He will give them shinies and also add the gender differences and also fix some colorings.

For those who don't know, these sprites are based on ken sugimori illustrations.

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I mean, they're nicely done... But they're boring. It's just the ken sugimori art. To make sprites like this, you shrink down the art to the desired can as size, and sprite over it. And these look like they're... I'd guess over 200x200? It's too big, makes the sprites too clean. That <100x100 jank from g1-g2 sprites is the golden size, in my opinion

They're good, don't get me wrong. Nice color choices, emulating the FRLG palette. It just would've been cool to see some original poses.