Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Nauseated Courgi]

Duly noted, probably won't make the cut for getting put on my cfw 3ds since I don't want to explain it if i'm asked by a stranger, but I'll give it a shot on a laptop emulator sometime soon.

What? Are you worried someone is going to randomly ask why you're catching and training a KKK member?

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Off topic, but does anyone here have any reccomendations for romhacks?

I had to start over when I got a new computer, but while I hadn't gone too far in Dark Violet (had reached Cerulean City), I was liking it. It's a literal challenge, trainer fights are difficult from the get-go and you can easily lose your team in one sweep. I went for it because a Mewtwo fan recommended it, but I underestimated the warnings about the tough battles. Took me three tries to get through the boss battle at Mt. Moon the first time around.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

Duly noted, probably won't make the cut for getting put on my cfw 3ds since I don't want to explain it if i'm asked by a stranger, but I'll give it a shot on a laptop emulator sometime soon.

I'd recommend pokemon Vega if you're into trying out a difficult pokemon game with some fakemon.

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

Off topic, but does anyone here have any reccomendations for romhacks? I know Drayano's hacks are standard fare since they basically make shit like hgss playable since otherwise gen 2's level curve, even in remake, is absolute ass, plus adding more fire types to sinnoh through the full dex, but are there any romhacks that aren't just QoL or enhancement or challenge patches you can recc? I've heard some things about rocket edition that interest me, I know pokemon is a turn-based babby game first and a jrpg second but I think having story fleshed out or having different goes at a plot via different perspectives is neat. I'm just getting sick of replaying base game platinum, and while renegade is nice, I'm just wanting something that feels new.

• Pokémon Snakewood is an exceptional hack... in both senses of the word. You are going to laugh ironically and unironically.
• If you do not mind hacks that are technically unfinished, then I heard very grea things about Pokémon Gaia nd Pokémon Unbound.
• On adaptions, the Pokémon Adventures manga has Pokémon Adventures, though the ROM is a bi too big to flashcarts or GBA injections. There is going to an RPG Maker sequel in development.
• The first season of the regular anime has Pokémon AshGrey. The Orange Islands arc actually has 3 adaptions.
• If you want a 'completion' of the SpaceWorld Gold and Silver demo, there are Pokémon Super Gold 97 and Pokémon Gold and Silver 97: Reforged. The story and area i so different from the final versions. In fact, I think that you should play these games in that order because Reforged changes plenty.
• Pokémon Emerald: Wally Version is a rather grindy and kinda glitchy adaption of Pokémon Emerald, but from Wally's perspective.
• I like Pokémon Blazed Glazed a lot. The region is very new while the graphics have a neat coat of paint.
• Another suc hack that I liked is Pokémon Victory Fire.
• The Pokémon Ruby Destiny Trilogy is fun in my experience. The second game actually adapts a Mystery Dungeon game to mainstream gameplay.
• ShockSlayer's Pokémon Crystal Clear has gotten high renown, being an open-world version of Pokémon Crystal that has lots of additions. (Do not confuse this version with Bynine's version, which is an admittedly excellent QOL and enhancement hack.)
• Another relative pedigree ROM Hack series is the Rijon series.
• If you like type randomisations, then you are going to like Pokémon Fool's Gold and Pokémon AlteRed.
• Pokémon Altair/Sirius are clearly based on Pokémon Emerald, bu their Sequel Pokémon Vega takes things to a new region and a more original plot. All of them are together here. However, I recommend Pokémon Altair Minus/Sirius Minus and Pokémon Vega Minus whic have a much needed lower leveling curve. Their sequels are also in development.
• A guilty pleasure of mine in Pokémon PurePink, which is very feminine without being 'social justice warrior feminist'. However, the ROM Hack is abandoned.

UPDATE: I made a new patch that does not make the ROM too big: https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?p=10365819#post10365819

 

[Reshiram Battle.mp3]

Wow, thanks for all the reccomendations! I might start with rocket edition and dark violet for now so i don't burn out because of having too much backlog, but i'm definitely saving the list @The Ultimate Ramotith wrote up for once I knock those first 2 out. Definitely interested in most these, especially Ruby Destiny since I'm into the PMD games, and the anime and pokespe themed romhacks because I am genuinely curious how they end up adapted. I already have experience with the lolfest that is snakewood and I'd recc it to any readers just because it's... It's so fucking stupid but in a way I can get with.

Again, thank you all for the reccs

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

Wow, thanks for all the reccomendations! I might start with rocket edition and dark violet for now so i don't burn out because of having too much backlog, but i'm definitely saving the list @The Ultimate Ramotith wrote up for once I knock those first 2 out. Definitely interested in most these, especially Ruby Destiny since I'm into the PMD games, and the anime and pokespe themed romhacks because I am genuinely curious how they end up adapted. I already have experience with the lolfest that is snakewood and I'd recc it to any readers just because it's... It's so fucking stupid but in a way I can get with.

Again, thank you all for the reccs

You are welcome. There are actually a lot of hacks that I have, though these are the ones with which I have at least som experience or big renown.
I hope that I can make a great hack one day...

 

[Buttigieg2020]

Is there even a place in Africa right now politically/publicly stable enough for the design team to stay for two weeks? Or even WANT to go to?

Egypt? That’s cheating though.
Parts of South Africa are survivable.

 

[Bunny Tracks]

You guys do realize that Africa has cities, right? And electricity, and stuff? And has different countries in it? And not all of it is at war? Africa's not just one big country of mud huts with tribes constantly at war with one another. There's places in Africa that are like that, but saying all of Africa is like that is retarded, and incredibly ignorant.

Also, I have to say it's pretty funny that most of the people who are against having an African region want a South American one even though the latter shares roughly the former's same problems (shitty infrastructure, violence, government instability, etc).

 

[ChucklesTheJester]

You guys do realize that Africa has cities, right? And electricity, and stuff? And has different countries in it? And not all of it is at war? Africa's not just one big country of mud huts with tribes constantly at war with one another. There's places in Africa that are like that, but saying all of Africa is like that is retarded, and incredibly ignorant.

Nonsense, we all know the truth that Africa is just mudhuts, with half naked black people with giant nose bones clicking at each other, and once another race comes along, they set up the cardboard painted like building so they wont expect anything.

 

[Dunsparce]

You guys do realize that Africa has cities, right? And electricity, and stuff? And has different countries in it? And not all of it is at war? Africa's not just one big country of mud huts with tribes constantly at war with one another. There's places in Africa that are like that, but saying all of Africa is like that is retarded, and incredibly ignorant.

Also, I have to say it's pretty funny that most of the people who are against having an African region want a South American one even though the latter shares roughly the former's same problems (shitty infrastructure, violence, government instability, etc).

The thing I personally was getting at was the following: Do you think that a group of Japanese programmers and designers would want to go sight-seeing anyhere on either continent for two weeks when there at still many other locations that are more popular among Japanese tourists that they would want to visit instead, from the list that was posted earlier neither Africa or South America are on the list of priorities for Japanese people to go to.

 

[EnemyStand]

You guys do realize that Africa has cities, right? And electricity, and stuff? And has different countries in it? And not all of it is at war? Africa's not just one big country of mud huts with tribes constantly at war with one another. There's places in Africa that are like that, but saying all of Africa is like that is retarded, and incredibly ignorant.

Also, I have to say it's pretty funny that most of the people who are against having an African region want a South American one even though the latter shares roughly the former's same problems (shitty infrastructure, violence, government instability, etc).

My point was less that Africa is just mud huts and genocide (which it is) and more that the Jappos probably won't consider doing an African region, mostly because of the mud huts and genocide. Say what you will about South America, but adobe is a much better building material and they do gang wars instead of genocide and apartheid, so the Japs would do that before Africa.

 

[Lapis Lazuli]

I noticed that these days genwunners are actually gen 1 and 2 fans who worship Tajiri and hate anything past Crystal. I keep hearing people sperg his “original vision” for the series but it is nothing but a bunch of narratives crafted by nostalgics. For all we know I wouldn’t be surprised if he was ok with all the controversial things people whine about in modern Pokemon. Some nostalgics even pray for him to come back and make a Pokemon game under the delusion that it would be good and save the series, not realizing that the first two gens were also a group effort.

It's interesting that genwunners are beginning to warm up to generation 2. Many complaints of genwunners was that they only liked KANTOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Or I could be wrong and they always were at least okay with generation 2 existing, and it was just a big generalization made about genwunners back in the day.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Or I could be wrong and they always were at least okay with generation 2 existing, and it was just a big generalization made about genwunners back in the day.

The first two generations I think were relatively close to each other in terms of release, at least in the States, but both came out when Pokémon's popularity was a cultural phenomenon and then there was Togepi's introduction in the anime, so Johto has always been fresh in a lot of genwunners' minds. G/S/C having Kanto post-game (as well as having the Johto region be included in the OG Pokémon series for anime-only fans who eventually fucked off after Misty left) may have helped.

Johto's always had its share of criticism, though, and they're not unfounded. Gen I at least had exploitable glitches and bugs that captured the imaginations of kids everywhere, Johto's only commonly known glitch is, what, the cloning glitch? I know it has its own share of issues, but Missingno. was rather special.

 

[McMitch]

The first two generations I think were relatively close to each other in terms of release, at least in the States, but both came out when Pokémon's popularity was a cultural phenomenon and then there was Togepi's introduction in the anime, so Johto has always been fresh in a lot of genwunners' minds. G/S/C having Kanto post-game (as well as having the Johto region be included in the OG Pokémon series for anime-only fans who eventually fucked off after Misty left) may have helped.

Johto's always had its share of criticism, though, and they're not unfounded. Gen I at least had exploitable glitches and bugs that captured the imaginations of kids everywhere, Johto's only commonly known glitch is, what, the cloning glitch? I know it has its own share of issues, but Missingno. was rather special.

With Gold and Silver, Game Freak also needed outside help just to fit the base game onto a cartridge, which is entirely the reason why Kanto was added in; the game’s code was reduced by almost a third of the size. There’s still a lot of inefficiencies (there’s at least one animation with 8+ lines of code that could be equally functional with two), but that rework is why most of those issues didn’t carry over.

 

[Shining Wit]

In retrospect gen 2 is fairly weak
Rocket is reused again, with a bunch of no-names instead of at least a new leader
Kanto is barren
Levels are low, before an absurd spike with Red
Some new mons aren't catchable until like 16 gyms in

It certainly rode the pokemania wave but it kept enough of the original design charm to keep it playable. Good thing HGSS is a very good remake that scrubbed both regions into being more complete

 

[Dark Edea]

With Gold and Silver, Game Freak also needed outside help just to fit the base game onto a cartridge, which is entirely the reason why Kanto was added in; the game’s code was reduced by almost a third of the size. There’s still a lot of inefficiencies (there’s at least one animation with 8+ lines of code that could be equally functional with two), but that rework is why most of those issues didn’t carry over.

He tried to tell Game Freak. He even fixed their game. But they did not understand... and the future refused to change.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Pokémon Snakewood is an exceptional hack... in both senses of the word. You are going to laugh ironically and unironically.

You aren't wrong on that front. However, it is mostly hilarious. I look at it as a proto-Clover Version, if the whole "zombie apocalypse" aesthetic was taken out.

At some instances, it turns into a "guide game." At others, it tells nuzlockers to piss off. But to reiterate, it is worth the experience as it is in the Pokémon romhack "canon."

 

[ChucklesTheJester]

You aren't wrong on that front. However, it is mostly hilarious. I look at it as a proto-Clover Version, if the whole "zombie apocalypse" aesthetic was taken out.

At some instances, it turns into a "guide game." At others, it tells nuzlockers to piss off. But to reiterate, it is worth the experience as it is in the Pokémon romhack "canon."

I might regret asking this, but canon? There a romhack canon?

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

I might regret asking this, but canon? There a romhack canon?

...not really, fro my perspective. I think a more accurate terminology would be 'Pokémon ROM Hack Pantheon', hat is, important Pokémon ROM Hacks o Pokémon ROM Hacks that made Pokémon ROM Hack history.

 

[CrippleThreat]

I might regret asking this, but canon? There a romhack canon?

...not really, fro my perspective. I think a more accurate terminology would be 'ROM Hack Pantheon', hat is, important ROM Hacks o ROM Hacks that made ROM Hack history.

Perhaps what I was getting at with "canon," was a bit like Ramotith's interpretation, but more Pokémon.

Nobody gets into Pokémon romhacks without hearing a whisper or walking away with knowledge about certain ones: Light Platinum, AshGray, Dark Rising, anything Drayano attaches his name to, etc. Such is the case with Snakewood too.