Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

Muttnik said:
I had this problem last night while I was playing it. I got bored really, REALLY fast.
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I feel as though it's because since it's the beginning, you have to do all those tutorials and talk to people and what not. other than that, wandering a world just to fill the Pokedex sounds just kind of, bland.
 
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So I’d like all your input please.

I cut my teeth on Gen 1. Gave it a test for decades (had stadium, but that doesn’t count) until I was looking for ROMs to fill my R4 and loaded up Black 2. Had a pretty great time, then nothing until Sword. Sword almost upset me because I felt like I was trying to have fun but the game wasn’t for me…. Definitely felt geared towards little, little kids for the most part.

I’m definitely interested in trying to find the high water mark for the series though. Any recommendations for mainline games to try?
 
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Fwiffo said:
So I’d like all your input please.

I cut my teeth on Gen 1. Gave it a test for decades (had stadium, but that doesn’t count) until I was looking for ROMs to fill my R4 and loaded up Black 2. Had a pretty great time, then nothing until Sword. Sword almost upset me because I felt like I was trying to have fun but the game wasn’t for me…. Definitely felt geared towards little, little kids for the most part.

I’m definitely interested in trying to find the high water mark for the series though. Any recommendations for mainline games to try?
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The two Gen 5 games are kind of decent, story-wise. Gen 3 revolves around the retarded eco terrorists and the remake adds in an elaborate romp throughout the region (started by some crazy chick) that could have been easily resolved with a few lines of dialogue.

Gen 4 is kind of dry, mostly because of Cyrus' ramblings.

Gen 6 looks good, but the villains are running an Ponzi scheme and their leader is a bigger strawman than what the series normally gives.

Gen 7 is kind of decent, provided that you ignore how fucked up certain people are. But it also has stuff from an parallel dimension invading the islands, which is gay in the first pair of games.

Just stick with either Gen 3 or 5 if you really care about the story. Anything newer has you collecting these special crystals just to wipe out the opposition.
 
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Fwiffo said:
So I’d like all your input please.

I cut my teeth on Gen 1. Gave it a test for decades (had stadium, but that doesn’t count) until I was looking for ROMs to fill my R4 and loaded up Black 2. Had a pretty great time, then nothing until Sword. Sword almost upset me because I felt like I was trying to have fun but the game wasn’t for me…. Definitely felt geared towards little, little kids for the most part.

I’m definitely interested in trying to find the high water mark for the series though. Any recommendations for mainline games to try?
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Your experience with the games is very similar to my own. Played Red when it came out, then played Platinum a couple years after that game came out (which is when I realized that Pokemon literally hadn't changed in 15 years) and then played Shield. I grabbed Pokemon Crystal on the 3DS eShop at the recommendation of a friend (it's his favorite in the series) and have really enjoyed that one a lot.

So I'd look at Pokemon Crystal if you want a more familiar experience that is polished up real nice with some new Pokemon and a ton of content; but without all the bloat and stagnation that the series developed later on. I liked the game a lot.
 
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I played it all last night. It has some hiccups, but I’m definitely enjoying the hell out of the game. I think they new stuff is just fresh enough to encourage people who wanted changes while not alienating the ones that like the original setup. I like seeing the side quests that hint at why certain Pokémon have the Pokédex entries they do, and that joke with the first scripted Alpha Pokémon fight was pretty good.
 
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I’ve put in about four hours so far, and I’m really loving the fluidity of the whole experience. Battling is so more convenient feeling. I was skeptical about the emphasis on catching but what really makes it work is the fluidity, how you can either simply throw a ball or engage in a seamless encounter. It’s all about choice and discovery, and that’s really what I wanted out of the game. It’s such a refreshing experience after the condensed railroading of SwSh and BDSP. Yeah, it doesn’t look great, and maybe it’ll start to wear down on me soon enough, but so far I’m pretty happy. The game feels like a real journey again.
 
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Fwiffo said:
So I’d like all your input please.

I cut my teeth on Gen 1. Gave it a test for decades (had stadium, but that doesn’t count) until I was looking for ROMs to fill my R4 and loaded up Black 2. Had a pretty great time, then nothing until Sword. Sword almost upset me because I felt like I was trying to have fun but the game wasn’t for me…. Definitely felt geared towards little, little kids for the most part.

I’m definitely interested in trying to find the high water mark for the series though. Any recommendations for mainline games to try?
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Highly recommend either HeartGold or SoulSilver. Has the nostalgia of being a remake of an older generation, with the mechanics introduced in gens 3 & 4. Also the fact that any Pokemon can follow you around adds to the game's atmosphere (I'm still peeved they removed that feature from the series, save one or two instances).

Black/White and Black 2/White 2 are great too. Gen 5 was pretty great, overall.
 
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Product Intervention said:
I see this brought up somewhat often. What the heck? Is it really that important?
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I mean, in varies from person to person, but I really enjoyed it. Watching your little starter follow you as it grows and evolves into its final form as you progress on your journey added another layer of enjoyment to the game. Doubly so once you catch a legendary and can have it follow you.
 
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Hey so here's another one.

I sort of kind of wish it were possible to use basic form or first form Pokemon and have them be useful. There has got to be some sort of way to make that work. Ash never evolved his Pikachu. Pikachu refused to take the thunder stone if I remember correctly. I like some of the earlier forms better than the evolved forms. How do we get more utility out of some of these?

Is it as simple as having stats boost significantly more when these forms hit very high levels? In that case you would at least have to do some work to run a sick nasty Dragonair or a Charmeleon. Should certain moves be form-specific? I dunno. But I want to be competitive with a kawaii Oddish like Ash Ketchum. And I don't want to fuck with the autistic busywork shit that is EV training.
 
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Nah they're there same old selves
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Aw, that's what I thought.

I just bought the game and I have some mixed feelings about it. I'm glad for the nice change of pace, it seems refreshing as I've only played the mainline games (and one of the Pokemon Ranger games). That said, I have my issues with the game and it kind of feels like a chore to complete.

I think the game has lots of potential to set up some good sequels. Though I'm not confident on Gamefreak improving anything if a sequel or similar game is announced.
 
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Product Intervention said:
Hey so here's another one.

I sort of kind of wish it were possible to use basic form or first form Pokemon and have them be useful. There has got to be some sort of way to make that work. Ash never evolved his Pikachu. Pikachu refused to take the thunder stone if I remember correctly. I like some of the earlier forms better than the evolved forms. How do we get more utility out of some of these?

Is it as simple as having stats boost significantly more when these forms hit very high levels? In that case you would at least have to do some work to run a sick nasty Dragonair or a Charmeleon. Should certain moves be form-specific? I dunno. But I want to be competitive with a kawaii Oddish like Ash Ketchum. And I don't want to fuck with the autistic busywork shit that is EV training.
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LGP&E's starter system basically revolved around that. I've seen people use Eviolites and other items, as well as breeding, to make baby starters useful. Littles Cup is basically the world's cutest Thunderdome.
 
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