Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[zyclonPD]

Currently building competitive level Pokémon I've come to a realization, paldea basically suffers from the sinnoh problem. Sinnoh had almost no fire types that were viable for anything and your starter was the best fire type in the game pre end game content.

Paldea has the same problem but with electric types. Basically most the electric types in the game aside from miraidon are hot garbage. Pawmot has some notoriety in terms of use but mainly due to revival blessing, not because its particularly a great electric type. I raised a couple pawmots and currently working on a bellibolt but that's about the best the game offers before Pokémon home integration.

 

[PipTheAlchemist]

Currently building competitive level Pokémon I've come to a realization, paldea basically suffers from the sinnoh problem. Sinnoh had almost no fire types that were viable for anything and your starter was the best fire type in the game pre end game content.

Paldea has the same problem but with electric types. Basically most the electric types in the game aside from miraidon are hot garbage. Pawmot has some notoriety in terms of use but mainly due to revival blessing, not because its particularly a great electric type. I raised a couple pawmots and currently working on a bellibolt but that's about the best the game offers before Pokémon home integration.

inb4 muh cope about Paldea being based off Spain, which is a desert. Therefore, Paldea is not allowed to have good Electric-Types, because Electric is weak to Ground

 

[Shining Wit]

Currently building competitive level Pokémon I've come to a realization, paldea basically suffers from the sinnoh problem. Sinnoh had almost no fire types that were viable for anything and your starter was the best fire type in the game pre end game content.

Paldea has the same problem but with electric types. Basically most the electric types in the game aside from miraidon are hot garbage. Pawmot has some notoriety in terms of use but mainly due to revival blessing, not because its particularly a great electric type. I raised a couple pawmots and currently working on a bellibolt but that's about the best the game offers before Pokémon home integration.

Thanks to the miracle of Tera, you can just make your own electric types

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

inb4 muh cope about Paldea being based off Spain, which is a desert. Therefore, Paldea is not allowed to have good Electric-Types, because Electric is weak to Ground

What's sinnoh's excuse then?

 

[PipTheAlchemist]

What's sinnoh's excuse then?

Retarded faggots who like to suck Game Freak's cock like to give the argument of Sinnoh's climate being too cold to support any Fire-Types, outside of Ponyta and Chimchar. Like it excuses the horseshit Pokemon distribution of Diamond and Pearl

 

[Nick Gars]

Speaking of cast offs, some random Mystery Gift codes dropped. None are good, but they’re there.
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I'll never understand why they even bother with codes like this. The gift is so minimal that your time is better spent just doing a single raid for roughly the same amount of total money. I haven't even claimed the "starter pack" for the same reason, a couple of nuggets and a rare candy just ain't worth the hassle.


On a side note, since I haven't seen it mentioned, we're supposed to be getting a patch sometime in February. Probably just a performance patch, but given it's been a few months now, I won't be surprised if they sneak in some new hints for the DLC.

 

[Leaf Wage Slave Jr]

On a side note, since I haven't seen it mentioned, we're supposed to be getting a patch sometime in February. Probably just a performance patch, but given it's been a few months now, I won't be surprised if they sneak in some new hints for the DLC.

I haven’t paid attention to any leaks post launch, but considering the reward for catching 400 Pokémon is a Beast Ball - which are only good on Ultra Beasts - we already have one tease.

The other was during the Dex Leak, where we got teased with Ancient Suicune and Future Muskateer Pokémon I legitimately don’t remember, wouldn’t be too surprised if their entire trio’s were given love

 

[Disc]

Currently building competitive level Pokémon I've come to a realization, paldea basically suffers from the sinnoh problem. Sinnoh had almost no fire types that were viable for anything and your starter was the best fire type in the game pre end game content.

Paldea has the same problem but with electric types. Basically most the electric types in the game aside from miraidon are hot garbage. Pawmot has some notoriety in terms of use but mainly due to revival blessing, not because its particularly a great electric type. I raised a couple pawmots and currently working on a bellibolt but that's about the best the game offers before Pokémon home integration.

That's not the Sinnoh problem.
The sinnoh problem isn't when building a monotype team would suck ass, it's when you literally can't build a monotype team at all and your fire-type elite four member has to use Steelix, Drifblim and Lopunny.

 

[Nick Gars]

I haven’t paid attention to any leaks post launch, but considering the reward for catching 400 Pokémon is a Beast Ball - which are only good on Ultra Beasts - we already have one tease.

The other was during the Dex Leak, where we got teased with Ancient Suicune and Future Muskateer Pokémon I legitimately don’t remember, wouldn’t be too surprised if their entire trio’s were given love

Yeah, it definitely seems Ultra Beasts aren't very far off. This article is talking about how the code for the UB's has been changed in S/V. They're now "sub legendary" in the code apparently. I wonder if that means we'll be able to breed them, doubtful, but still. They definitely wouldn't bother making that adjustment if they don't eventually intend on releasing them to S/V.

I never understood classifying them as legendaries to begin with, they're pretty much just Paradox Pokemon before they were a thing. Looking at their BST's (all 570), I have a feeling GameFreak feels the same way. To me a "legendary" should have 600+ bst, or lacking that, a decent lore reason as to why there is only one in game beyond "um well space portals".

Most legendaries are a "deity" or some being relating to mysticism in some way, while things like Paradox and UB's are, while "exotic and rare" to the setting of the game, literally just bog standard common Pokemon in their respective time/dimension.

 

[Executive Petrel]

Retarded faggots who like to suck Game Freak's cock like to give the argument of Sinnoh's climate being too cold to support any Fire-Types, outside of Ponyta and Chimchar. Like it excuses the horseshit Pokemon distribution of Diamond and Pearl

Hoenn has too much water for ice types to deal with.


Update on my challenge
I got to dewford town, caught my two available fishing encounters and a Geodude from Granite cave and yet have to beat the regular Gym trainers and Brawly,

My current team
Poochyena Lv. 11
Slakoth Lv. 11
Beautifly Lv. 12
Taillow Lv. 13
Zigzagoon Lv. 14
Mudkip Lv. 15

I have to evolve Mudkip and train up Beautifly and Taillow to the Level cap, this game is easy af but the Makuhita with Knock off is not too shabby.
Super Training is banned as a self-imposed rule and I'm trying to beat the game deathless, not a reset if someone dies tho.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

Hoenn has too much water for ice types to deal with.


Update on my challenge
I got to dewford town, caught my two available fishing encounters and a Geodude from Granite cave and yet have to beat the regular Gym trainers and Brawly,

My current team
Poochyena Lv. 11
Slakoth Lv. 11
Beautifly Lv. 12
Taillow Lv. 13
Zigzagoon Lv. 14
Mudkip Lv. 15

I have to evolve Mudkip and train up Beautifly and Taillow to the Level cap, this game is easy af but the Makuhita with Knock off is not too shabby.
Super Training is banned as a self-imposed rule and I'm trying to beat the game deathless, not a reset if someone dies tho.

Are you playing with any level caps in mind or just whatever you can't be bothered to grind for?

 

[Executive Petrel]

Level Caps, i'm using this list as a reference

Hardcore Nuzlocke Level Caps by Generation

A list of level caps for each generation of Pokémon games as a reference for the Hardcore Nuzlocke challenge.

nuzlockeuniversity.ca

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

After seeing a vide on the guy who leaked Halo 4, I realised that my hack could be trouble the same way. Though many, many hacks are still shown freely, there have been a few that were subjected to takedowns. That is the reason why the new Pokémon Crystal Clear had to be in hiding.

I am worried that my project is going to be the same way. If anything, I am also worried that others would use the DMCAD of my project in yet another attack against Null. After all, if they canno take dow Null on 'Terfascism' charges, they could take down him on piracy charges, even if I just upload a patch.

I have no lack of original ideas; I am jus that big a fan of Pokémon. Th is a labour of love, not spite.

EDIT: the video

 

[negativlad]

Currently building competitive level Pokémon I've come to a realization, paldea basically suffers from the sinnoh problem. Sinnoh had almost no fire types that were viable for anything and your starter was the best fire type in the game pre end game content.

Paldea has the same problem but with electric types. Basically most the electric types in the game aside from miraidon are hot garbage. Pawmot has some notoriety in terms of use but mainly due to revival blessing, not because its particularly a great electric type. I raised a couple pawmots and currently working on a bellibolt but that's about the best the game offers before Pokémon home integration.

Yeah, thinking about it now and you have all of Magnezone, Pawmot, Bellibolt, Luxray, Kilowattrel, Pachirisu, Toxtricity, Dedenne (I think?), Elecktross, Jolteon, and of course Miraidon. I think all of two Paradox forms are electric, one for each game. It’s not exactly Sinnoh-Fire bad but there sure isn’t a lot to pick from on a competitive level.

ETA: I take it back. A whole 3 paradox forms have an electric typing- Iron Thorns, Iron Hands, Sandy Shocks. Paldea is teeming with electro LIFE!

 

[zyclonPD]

Yeah, thinking about it now and you have all of Magnezone, Pawmot, Bellibolt, Luxray, Kilowattrel, Pachirisu, Toxtricity, Dedenne (I think?), Elecktross, Jolteon, and of course Miraidon. I think all of two Paradox forms are electric, one for each game. It’s not exactly Sinnoh-Fire bad but there sure isn’t a lot to pick from on a competitive level.

ETA: I take it back. A whole 3 paradox forms have an electric typing- Iron Thorns, Iron Hands, Sandy Shocks. Paldea is teeming with electro LIFE!

I'm thinking more about the speed stat. Some of the paradox violet dual types aren't bad but they are slow as hell. Jolteon is always a reliable choice but he's fragile. Most of the electric types I saw when I went through the list team building were pikachu knockoffs. They aren't exactly carrying you through a VGC or 6v6.

There are electric types just you aren't going to live long enough to pop off an attack without eating an earthquake and going down for the count. Comparing it to the Diamond Pearl games is the closest analogy I had. Im just finding it hard to fill that slot with anything worthwhile and I don't want to spent a tera just to pop off the 2-3 electric attacks you need for a match.

 

[negativlad]

I'm thinking more about the speed stat. Some of the paradox violet dual types aren't bad but they are slow as hell. Jolteon is always a reliable choice but he's fragile. Most of the electric types I saw when I went through the list team building were pikachu knockoffs. They aren't exactly carrying you through a VGC or 6v6.

There are electric types just you aren't going to live long enough to pop off an attack without eating an earthquake and going down for the count. Comparing it to the Diamond Pearl games is the closest analogy I had. Im just finding it hard to fill that slot with anything worthwhile and I don't want to spent a tera just to pop off the 2-3 electric attacks you need for a match.

Eelektross would avoid an Earthquake but it'll eat shit in the face of all the non-Spikes hazards flying around and it's a free switch-in for Clodsire which will block Volt Switch and tank anything it could possibly do with it's Good-For-Gen-2 stats. I don't remember if it gets Knock Off this gen, but it likely didn't make the cut. I'd just slap Thunder on anything that could learn it and call it a day.

 

[Archeops]

I don't remember if it gets Knock Off this gen, but it likely didn't make the cut. I'd just slap Thunder on anything that could learn it and call it a day.

It sadly doesn’t, Knock Off was only available to the Eelektrik and Eelektross via Move Tutor in Gens 5-7.

 

[huecoffs02]

Currently building competitive level Pokémon I've come to a realization, paldea basically suffers from the sinnoh problem. Sinnoh had almost no fire types that were viable for anything and your starter was the best fire type in the game pre end game content.

Paldea has the same problem but with electric types. Basically most the electric types in the game aside from miraidon are hot garbage. Pawmot has some notoriety in terms of use but mainly due to revival blessing, not because its particularly a great electric type. I raised a couple pawmots and currently working on a bellibolt but that's about the best the game offers before Pokémon home integration.

Rain Kilowattrel boi

 

[Executive Petrel]

One major problem with electric types is the lack of good physical STAB moves, to make Luxray, Electivire, Zebstrika, and Eelektross viable.
If only wild charge was as strong as Flare Blitz.

If even Guts can't make a pokemon climb up the latter in competitive, you know there is something wrong.

 

[Lucas Silva #4903141]

Retarded faggots who like to suck Game Freak's cock like to give the argument of Sinnoh's climate being too cold to support any Fire-Types, outside of Ponyta and Chimchar. Like it excuses the horseshit Pokemon distribution of Diamond and Pearl

Which reminds me, it's sad that Rapidash has mostly been hot garbage. In gen 1, it's obvious: Fire type with not much going for it = Bad.
Gen 2: Still pretty shitty.
Gen 3: If you can get Baton Pass on it, there's some use for it. Otherwise, it's not much to your team. Too many better fire types.
Gen 4: Introduction of Stealth Rock. Fucking lol.
Gen 5: Power creep, weather wars...lol
Gen 6 and beyond: JUST
Even Galarian Rapidash isn't very special. Too many better options.
Silly me expecting Game Freak to ever balance their Pokemon games. The powercreep keeps piling on.