Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Akuyamigami]

We're all unpaid beta testers.

 

[Executive Petrel]

Is there really an item called soylent or did you make this up?

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

Is there really an item called soylent or did you make this up?

I am referring to this: https://soylent.com/
Soylent and Paleo Feed are just items that ar exclusive to my hack. I just wanted items that evolve Pokémon to their suspiciously similar Paradox forms. I picked 'paleo feed' and 'Soylent' in reference to the past and future motif that Scarlet and Violet have.

 

[Executive Petrel]

Well then good luck not accidentally evolving your Zubat into Nu-Bat.

 

[Zaryiu2]

Due to all the talk about underwhelming Pokemon, it gave me a thought. Gen 10 would be a good time to stop introducing new species lines all together and only release new regional variants or evolutions to lines that desperately need a boost. You could, very, very easily pick out 70-120 examples of drastically underpowered Pokemon lines and start giving them the buffs they desperately need to be competitive at some level. Sadly there's not as much merchandising in this regard so that's definitely a pipe dream.



I had completely forgotten that I have Pokemon Crystal on my 3DS and started playing again... Then I remembered Gen2 has the best clone glitch of any gen... And those clones can be transfered to Bank, then to Home. Needless to say, I'm trying to SR for a Shiny Celebi because if I can just get 1, I have infinite, and they're good trade fodder if Celebi gets added to S/V. Hell, the Home phone app has trading too, so they could also be really useful for getting spare legendaries trading that way.

After that, I'm going for Lugia and Ho-Oh, then doing the chain shiny breeding Gen2 is known for. If I had Gold or Silver, I would just ACE for everything, but Crystal is my only option at present and ACE does not work in that version to my knowledge. Might ACE my VC-Red for some Mews at some point though.

They won't ever stop making new pokémons as long as making those makes them money in the things that makes them a lot more money than the games

 

[FatMebius]

Well then good luck not accidentally evolving your Zubat into Nu-Bat.

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You know the name 'soylent" comes from the 1973 movie "Soylent Green", right? That up until some bugmen used it as the name for their nasty-ass soy drink, most people thought of weird cannibal shit.

 

[Disc]

1: Why not use the Up-grade or Metal Coat for the Futuristic Pokemon, and King's Rock for the Past? For that matter, why are you making them evolutions and not unique Pokemon? The pseudo-ones actually lose BST from their normal forms.
2: It might be a typo but you've listed both donphan evolutions as Paleo Feed evolutions.
3: really don't like the Annihilape and Farigiraf evolutions. ow friendship is hard to maintain, especially belatedly, which makes a mankey the player raises from early on really hard to max out. and Girafarig's stats are pretty skewed. I'd probably just make them "level they learn the move" or "level they learn the move plus a little more".

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

You know the name 'soylent" comes from the 1973 movie "Soylent Green", right? That up until some bugmen used it as the name for their nasty-ass soy drink, most people thought of weird cannibal shit.

...definitely. The associated message was going to be 'Causes a future Paradox. Vegan.' in acknowledgement of the Soylent Green film. (Paleo Feed would have the message 'Causes a past Paradox. Organic.')

1: Why not use the Up-grade or Metal Coat for the Futuristic Pokemon, and King's Rock for the Past? For that matter, why are you making them evolutions and not unique Pokemon? The pseudo-ones actually lose BST from their normal forms.
2: It might be a typo but you've listed both donphan evolutions as Paleo Feed evolutions.
3: really don't like the Annihilape and Farigiraf evolutions. ow friendship is hard to maintain, especially belatedly, which makes a mankey the player raises from early on really hard to max out. and Girafarig's stats are pretty skewed. I'd probably just make them "level they learn the move" or "level they learn the move plus a little more".

1. Hn... considering that I already replaced Mismagius' Dusk Stone with a Moon Stone... I do not wan to use a King's Rock or a Metal Coat, though, since those items are also battle items. An Up-Grade would work, especially since there are no Porygon in this game; I just need a corresponding past item. For that matter, that is also a reference to th Evolve into Paradox mod, which just made sense to me thematically: https://gamebanana.com/mods/415641 Maybe I can turn most of those into branched evolutions, instead?
2. Excuse me. Thank you.
3. Can you not just use a lot of bitter herbal medicine just befor evolving Annihilape, especially since this evolution does not depend on level? I agree with you on Girafarig, though. I also feel unconfortable wit how I mplemented the branched evolution of Kirlia. The problem is that Pokémon Gen 2 games have few evolution methods:

• Reach a certain LV
• Use an item on them
• Trade them
• Trade them while they hold a specific item
• Have their happiness be a specific number (not just high)
• Have their happiness be a specific number in the day
• Have their happiness be a specific number at night
• Have their Attack and Defense statistics b equal
• Have their Attack be bigger than their Defense
• Have their Defense be bigger than their Attack

I a more pushed into a corner here, especially since trading is a no-go regarding a hack.

 

[Luigi Cadorna]

The Tera Raid Wall of Shame:

• Player who brings a Pokémon strong against its normal type but walled by its tera type.
• Player who brings a Pokémon strong against its tera type but gets nuked by its regular moves (that tera water Gengar is still packing poison moves for your grass type)
• Player who brings a frail sweeper that dies in a single hit (the God damn cat)

The second I see someone bring Meowscarada to a six star raid I just disconnect to not waste my time. Anyway, I caught a shiny female Lechonk yesterday and I'm trying to think of a set for it. Oinkologne's stats aren't terrible but its movepool is more barren than a salted field. Anyone have any recommendations? Obviously this thing isn't competitively viable what-so-ever but maybe there's some dumb gimmick I'm not seeing.

 

[A-Stump]

The Tera Raid Wall of Shame:

• Player who brings a Pokémon strong against its normal type but walled by its tera type.
• Player who brings a Pokémon strong against its tera type but gets nuked by its regular moves (that tera water Gengar is still packing poison moves for your grass type)
• Player who brings a frail sweeper that dies in a single hit (the God damn cat)

The second I see someone bring Meowscarada to a six star raid I just disconnect to not waste my time. Anyway, I caught a shiny female Lechonk yesterday and I'm trying to think of a set for it. Oinkologne's stats aren't terrible but its movepool is more barren than a salted field. Anyone have any recommendations? Obviously this thing isn't competitively viable what-so-ever but maybe there's some dumb gimmick I'm not seeing.

I feel your pain but it's also helpful to remember a bunch of children are playing a children's game.

What annoys me worse is people bringing obviously purchased hacked Azumarill's (which are always shiny) to every single tera raid because they were useful for one and they can't use mom's credit card to buy anything else. So they use belly drum and are one shot. I play support and even with reflect/lightscreen active and me trying to heal them this is the case.

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

I feel your pain but it's also helpful to remember a bunch of children are playing a children's game.

What annoys me worse is people bringing obviously purchased hacked Azumarill's (which are always shiny) to every single tera raid because they were useful for one and they can't use mom's credit card to buy anything else. So they use belly drum and are one shot. I play support and even with reflect/lightscreen active and me trying to heal them this is the case.

Tera Ids are also a new concept. I still have trouble understanding how Terastalising affects the type.
Then again, I did not actually play the game. I am just doing a lot of research.

 

[Thiletonomics]

The Tera Raid Wall of Shame:

• Player who brings a Pokémon strong against its normal type but walled by its tera type.
• Player who brings a Pokémon strong against its tera type but gets nuked by its regular moves (that tera water Gengar is still packing poison moves for your grass type)
• Player who brings a frail sweeper that dies in a single hit (the God damn cat)

The second I see someone bring Meowscarada to a six star raid I just disconnect to not waste my time. Anyway, I caught a shiny female Lechonk yesterday and I'm trying to think of a set for it. Oinkologne's stats aren't terrible but its movepool is more barren than a salted field. Anyone have any recommendations? Obviously this thing isn't competitively viable what-so-ever but maybe there's some dumb gimmick I'm not seeing.

Would the "Player who bring Shiny Pokémon just to show them off, even if it does absolutely little or nothing to the raid", also count?

 

[PipTheAlchemist]

You could, very, very easily pick out 70-120 examples of drastically underpowered Pokemon lines and start giving them the buffs they desperately need to be competitive at some level.

Regional forms should be sidegrades to existing Pokemon, imo. Not straight upgrades. Which in all fairness, Game Freak has done a good job of doing the former, for the most part

 

[Executive Petrel]

You know the name 'soylent" comes from the 1973 movie "Soylent Green", right? That up until some bugmen used it as the name for their nasty-ass soy drink, most people thought of weird cannibal shit.

Still not as disgusting as guzzling down estrogenic wallpaper paste.

I feel your pain but it's also helpful to remember a bunch of children are playing a children's game.

What annoys me worse is people bringing obviously purchased hacked Azumarill's (which are always shiny) to every single tera raid because they were useful for one and they can't use mom's credit card to buy anything else. So they use belly drum and are one shot. I play support and even with reflect/lightscreen active and me trying to heal them this is the case.

It would be helpful if the developers didn't make the games so painfully easy, it's not like children won't use their brains just a lil bit to beat it.
According to Masuda and Ohmori they will probably turn back to watching tiktok if they don't always win first try.

 

[Lucille Bluth]

I don't know why some people keep claiming that there's a good chance for Kalos DLC in Scarlet and Violet. The only reason I could find is rationalizing real life geography based on what Kalos and Paldea are inspired by (France and Spain/Iberian Peninsula respectively). But that's odd because the real world means nothing to the Pokemon world. Like, Unova is based on the U.S (New York especially) and Alola is based on Hawaii, a U.S state, yet Alola is not a territory of Unova. The former actually has more ties to Kanto (based on a region of Japan).

It would be helpful if the developers didn't make the games so painfully easy, it's not like children won't use their brains just a lil bit to beat it.
According to Masuda and Ohmori they will probably turn back to watching tiktok if they don't always win first try.

It still baffled me to see that the only mainline game that had some semblance of an "easy/hard mode" was in Black 2/White 2. But the game went out of their way to make obtaining the keys (?) required to unlock the modes hard. Like, you couldn't select a mode from the start and had to beat the game and trade it to the opposite game iirc. Almost like the developers didn't actually to implement this "challenge" mode at all.

 

[Nick Gars]

Yeah, I genuinely don't understand the people who seem to think beyond a shadow of a doubt "the DLC is Kalos". There is no official artwork of the world and the placements of each region to prove it, like literally that's all it would take to make a solid claim, and they don't even have that.

Also, if it's Kalos as DLC, that means they would be expected to bring Mega's back. From the prospect of game design, why would you do that when you just introduced a new "super form" gimmick this generation?

 

[Thiletonomics]

Also, if it's Kalos as DLC, that means they would be expected to bring Mega's back. From the prospect of game design, why would you do that when you just introduced a new "super form" gimmick this generation?

There's also the possibility that GF could make a Kalos DLC without them. They did that when ORAS didn't include the Battle Frontier, and when BDSP didn't include Platinum's QOL changes.

 

[Executive Petrel]

It still baffled me to see that the only mainline game that had some semblance of an "easy/hard mode" was in Black 2/White 2. But the game went out of their way to make obtaining the keys (?) required to unlock the modes hard. Like, you couldn't select a mode from the start and had to beat the game and trade it to the opposite game iirc. Almost like the developers didn't actually to implement this "challenge" mode at all.

ackchually, the hard mode in bw2 is easier than the normal mode.
FlygonHG accidentely discovered this, enemy levels get increased but the stats somehow stay the same. Maybe on purpose, maybe a programming error.

 

[Nick Gars]

There's also the possibility that GF could make a Kalos DLC without them. They did that when ORAS didn't include the Battle Frontier, and when BDSP didn't include Platinum's QOL changes.

Fair point, but that also raises the point for the DLC not being Kalos. Everything you noted is a remake, why would they do Kalos DLC when at the current rate they're cranking out games, gen 6 remakes are like 4-6 years away? GF doesn't strike me as the type of company to take $30 for something they could sell for $60 later.

I highly suspect something more along the lines of the SW/SH DLC, something still "in region" to introduce more merchan-- Pokemon, but not so far from the region that you got people asking questions.

 

[A-Stump]

Fair point, but that also raises the point for the DLC not being Kalos. Everything you noted is a remake, why would they do Kalos DLC when at the current rate they're cranking out games, gen 6 remakes are like 4-6 years away? GF doesn't strike me as the type of company to take $30 for something they could sell for $60 later.

I highly suspect something more along the lines of the SW/SH DLC, something still "in region" to introduce more merchan-- Pokemon, but not so far from the region that you got people asking questions.

My money is on any future DLC being in an expanded version of the crater. Oh no the time machine is being wacky and is spitting out new pokemon, swipe your mom's credit card to dab on Arven's storyline