Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

Would anyone happen to have an extra shiny articuno I could just grift off of you?
 
I still haven't played PLA yet (my brother's been liking it) but I haven't been in the thread for a while and I just popped back in to say that as the residential Mewtwo fag, I have to belatedly say Mewtwo is now I guess 26 years old, and have a weird Japanese thing about baking with Pokémon while Psyduck smugly judges you.
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Yeah I got nothing.
 
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Chaotic Pizzaparty said:
I am a massive TCG player and it was my first game but Yu Gi Oh was my passion, the complicated rules and archetypal design made for a much more engaging game. I revisited the TCG in 2014 and was one of the first players to create the Gardevoir EX deck and had very good success in the game. Unfortunately unlike YGO, Pokemon TCG creates its own power creep when unwanted because the EX format was incredibly diverse but then set design took a nosedive at the GX period. The set design here was bloated, commons and rares did nothing and only some rares and some gx mattered. This too brought along Rainbow and secret rares making a massive setlist making collecting very difficult and pointless.

YGO regulates itself through set design and banlists and players getting interested in different archetypes but the 2/3 prize pokemon was a blight on the game. Decks become spam items and play a supporter like Marnie or Sycamore and there is no interaction. To this day there is no interaction, the game is basically holo card solitaire. The TCG has such a structure that local communities just disappear overnight and the Tag Team format fucking nuked local playgroups. I have been through the entirety of YGO and MTG and have never seen a mechanic decimate groups like Tag Team did. You were playing large cities or GTFO and large city groups are pretty toxic. They are very money orientated and don't really care about the game. Deck variance is non-existent and it's like playing solitaire.

The Pokemon TCG as a game is in a really hard place because so many actual players left during tag format and they sold collections and migrated games. The game is pretty much for collectors now and with PTCGO being so slow to release in-person events a lot of people left for yu gi oh too because the in-person play has been back for a while now since September in Europe. The game set design-wise is at the worst it's been baiting collectors and not actual players. Every 2 or so set becomes chase the Charizard or other iconic boring pokemon and it's rinse repeat. Set designs are at almost if not 300+ now and when compared to other games that are like 100 or 150.

Deck design too is at it's worst with nothing intuitive and again it's like solitaire. How can you be a TCG if there is no response, you aren't a game at that point.
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Oh hey, someone else here is (or was) into the TCG.
I was introduced to the TCG with the Game Boy game but I never actively played the game until the late-HGSS/early-BLW eras and that was my only real TCG experience, playing MTG was largely out-of-the-question due to how elitist/“neckbearded” that community can be and the YGO scene in my neck of the woods has always been suspicious as hell.

As far you seeing the game being “great “ during the early-XY era and the game taking a “nosedive“ during the SM-era you’re basically noticing the rise-and-fall pattern that the TCG has been going through for years, many people also think that TCG suffered a nosedive back in 2012 when Mewtwo-EX was introduced in Next Destinies and that Quad Mewtwo decks were everywhere. As far as deck building goes most SWSH-on decks I see tend to vary Pokemon-wise (most decks have a Marnie/Professor’s Research/Boss’s Orders/Quick Ball/Level Ball/Evolution Incense Trainer core with variations occurring depending on what deck your running).

When it comes to card/set design, card bans, and similar things those have multiple factors in play. Cards are designed by Creatures Inc. and are vigorously playtested before being finalized and inserted into a set. There are VERY few cards that get banned in the Standard format in large part due to rotations knocking out any potential broken combos (Expanded is a different kettle of fish that I think needs to be reassessed), the only time Creatures Inc. fucked up was with Ancient Origins’ Forest of Giant Plants (removes the restrictions on Evolution for Grass-types) and Phantom Forces’ Lysandre’s Trump Card (shuffled the discard piles of BOTH players back into their respective decks) and that led to the the former getting banned from play in 2017 and the latter in 2015. Set design tends to be a TPCi-centric issue due to the international TCG having to consolidate two or more sets, certain side products, and occasionally promos into a quarterly set or, worse yet, a “holiday” set that doesn‘t follow the usual release style that quarterly sets get.

And finally, the whole “playing like solitaire“ thing something that can’t really be fixed without severely altering the game from what it originally was. The Pokemon TCG doesn’t play like other trading card games because it’s not trying to mimic them, it’s trying to mimic the video game.
Massively Strong Greed said:
If I can get another similar outbreak I’ll probably be fine.
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You should be fine, the Goomy line (at least Goomy and Sliggo AFAIK since I haven’t seen a Goodra outbreak yet) can have outbreaks in both the Crimson Mirelands and the Coronet Highlands.
LeafGreen said:
Have you even seen the current pokemon company CEO? The nigga looks like a villain straight out of an anime. Team Pokemon is the true current bad guy faction as they are trying to bring pokemon to life at the expense of any fun it was to play in the first place.

I was one of the few that actually liked BDSP as Diamond/Pearl was my first pokemon game and it pisses me off how even Gen 3 got better treatment than this utter disdain and shoveling it off to some third party company because it got in the way of their current trend of genwun pandering and remaking Kanto, yet again, for the fifth time in the near future. (G/S, FR/LG, HG/SS, Let's go, etc..)

A level 100 shadow giratina that you can't catch? In a location where you are supposed to catch legendaries? In a place that perfectly resembles the distortion world down to the camera angle effects? WTF? Why isn't this post launch update content tucked away at spear pillar like in Platinum? They added in every other place and event from platinum like the rotom room in eterna city (they even added a new key item, "the rotom catalog," so you don't have to keep coming back to it), despite the retards of the fanbase in your post sperging about the "lack of platinum content" The only place missing is the battle frontier with the other four facilities.

ILCA has proven to be a potential successor to gamefreak but the lack of post launch content compared to even Sun/Moon in the form of giveaway internet event pokemon and game store giveaway codes makes me not want to hold my breath. It was aweseome back in the day to get spikey earred pichu and its a sad state of the industry as a whole to where its so atomized and down to $$$ instead of making something worth spending money on anymore. Its a what? almost 20 year old game remake at this point? There's nothing left to spoil and if they were saving the azure flute event for the launch of arceus, they certainly missed the mark by several miles.

My theory is that the exponential shovelware trend is a precursor to the heretical resurrection of video game rental stores via digital storefronts in the near future short of a crash and burn of all these "too big to fail" companies and propaganda mills. Microsoft is already doing it with gamepass.
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If both BDSP and PLA were a normal Pokemon releases then I’d chalk up the lack of events to TPCi rather than TPC and Game Freak, TPCi has always had issues bringing over certain event Pokemon (mostly niche event ‘mons like the JPN Pokemon Center ones, ones tied to Japanese holidays like the Tanabata Jirachis, and end-of-gen events like SM/USUM’s Shiny Necrozma and ) over to international audiences.

But the lack of BDSP and PLA events (and LGPE events, those titles only have 5 events across ALL regions) is something that’s stems from is that TPC doesn’t view these two titles as “proper” continuations of a Generation in the same way HGSS, BW2, ORAS, and USUM did for their respective Gens. I’d argue that the lack of VGC support for those three titles is also a deciding factor but that’s somewhat iffy.
 
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I completed all the Unown riddles, got max star level, hit level 10 research on all mons, and completed a living dex in about 70 hours total. I quite enjoyed the game, but I'm not much of a shiny hunter so I don't really have any desire to go back to the game now that I don't have a goal to work towards. Grinding to Perfect research level on every mon feels like way too much of a chore with no real payoff to entice me.

The only collectible I didn't collect all of were the Old Verses, but Ursaluna is painfully slow, and since they are similar to Perfect research level in that there's there's no reward for collecting them all from what I've heard, I don't feel like bothering to hunt them down either. It looks like I'll be putting the game down until some DLC drops.
 
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New patch for BD/SP, they finally added Coliseum and more slots for the union room looool

also datamining shows that support for trading with Arceus/HOME is coming soon.
 
Smug Chuckler said:
New patch for BD/SP, they finally added Coliseum and more slots for the union room looool

also datamining shows that support for trading with Arceus/HOME is coming soon.
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Also, if people remember the cloning glitches that were in the game, they now make it so clones cannot be traded anymore, only the original copy can. The others a permanently flagged. Many think this will also prevent them from being deposited into Home.
 
I don’t think the lack of event stuff is anything to really raise a concern about.
The “have some mythicals” role is taken by the save file bonus rewards, and there’s no need to have events to drum up interest when two games are being released in quick succession. We’ll probably start seeing something after Pokémon Day.
 
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Is it even possible for a game to have free online play on the Switch? Fortnite might, but even then I’m not sure if Nintendo allowed that.
 
Bunny Tracks said:
So, I bit the bullet, and got PLA. My biggest issue so far is the name of one the teams, or whatever is "Survey Corps".

It appears that not even in Pokemon can I escape Attack on Titan.
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I like the name "Survey Corps" because it genuinely fits in both contexts, but you're definitely not the only one who kept thinking AoT anytime someone says it in game. Considering AoT is still pretty popular, they really should of just gone with "Exploration Team" or something.


I'm enjoying PLA quite a lot, but after playing this and watching a buddy play No Man's Sky for a bit, I do feel the explorable world in PLA is incredibly bland. While he was flying over a green earth-like planet is when this really stuck out to me, because if you removed all the creatures and huds in both and just did camera pans, you would be hard pressed to tell which is which, and that says alot considering one is meticulously hand crafted and the other is procedurally generated.
 
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I spent a few hours last night trying to get a shiny alpha to spawn using designated alpha spots. While I didn’t get what I was going for yet, I did get 8 other shinies at random and a separate alpha shiny just in the course of flying to where the alpha spawns. So that was pretty cool.

I think the final objective is gonna set for myself is to get a full shiny alpha version of my team.
 
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So I admittedly haven't played any Pokemon games, just watched my cousin play when we were younger. I'm not the best at video games, but the newest one looks cool and it sounds like you all are having a lot of fun. I have a Switch, so should I look into getting it or start with the watered down Let's Go Pikachu/Evee?
 
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Din Djarin said:
So I admittedly haven't played any Pokemon games, just watched my cousin play when we were younger. I'm not the best at video games, but the newest one looks cool and it sounds like you all are having a lot of fun. I have a Switch, so should I look into getting it or start with the watered down Let's Go Pikachu/Evee?
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The gameplay is different enough that you don’t need to play older games to understand what to do. Main thing you’ll be missing out on is lore stuff for Gen 4, since this is set in its past.
 
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SteelPlatedHeart said:
The gameplay is different enough that you don’t need to play older games to understand what to do. Main thing you’ll be missing out on is lore stuff for Gen 4, since this is set in its past.
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Thanks! I can always look up the lore from Gen 4 if need be so that's not a big deal. And hopefully I'm not too much of a sped that I struggle with the game play a lot.
 
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