Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Two Dollars]

I doubt we’ll ever see a sequel to the Stadium/Colosseum/Battle Revolution for the forseeable future, Genius Sonority‘s Pokemon entries have shifted to puzzle-genre entries while TPC and GF don’t really see a use for such a title thanks to Gen VI’s shift into 3D. I also wouldn’t be surprised if GF used the same excuse they used to justify gutting the Battle Frontier from ORAS to explain the lack of such a console-level entry.

I still think adding a “Stadium mode” to gen 8 would have gone a long way to making Pokemon’s transition to home consoles feel special. A collection of rental Pokemon with fixed builds that can be used in tournaments, like cups or the gym leader tower from the Stadium games. A local multiplayer mode that lets 2+ people battle on one system using rental Pokemon or anything you’ve actually caught. A quick play mode that, like Stadium, gives everyone a random set of rentals, also complimenting the Switch’s pick-up-and-play format. Completing challenges like these could then unlock event Pokemon and special items, or at the very least give you points to use in some shop.

 

[Suspicious Penguin]

I also wouldn’t be surprised if GF used the same excuse they used to justify gutting the Battle Frontier from ORAS to explain the lack of such a console-level entry.

To be fair in the original R/S there was only the battle tower and the battle frontier didnt make an appearance outside the entire season of the anime dedicated to it until Emerald.

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I still want to see some of the anime and manga exclusive locations appear in the games for once. That Italy region looked way more interesting than galar.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

I still think adding a “Stadium mode” to gen 8 would have gone a long way to making Pokemon’s transition to home consoles feel special. A collection of rental Pokemon with fixed builds that can be used in tournaments, like cups or the gym leader tower from the Stadium games. A local multiplayer mode that lets 2+ people battle on one system using rental Pokemon or anything you’ve actually caught. A quick play mode that, like Stadium, gives everyone a random set of rentals, also complimenting the Switch’s pick-up-and-play format. Completing challenges like these could then unlock event Pokemon and special items, or at the very least give you points to use in some shop.

That's a great idea, I guess Stadium games might not be necessary anymore but they should instead include the Stadium features in mainline games.

I guess that would take effort and resources beyond the absolute bare minimum though, so we haven't seen that happen.

 

[Suspicious Penguin]

Well it appears that the TCG’s usual post-World Championship rotation isn’t happening in August, it’s happening in early 2023. They’ve also banned some promo cards (all of the Special Delivery promos, the Dark Sylveon V and Lance’s Charizard V promos that were bundled with some Celebrations products, and the Europe-only “On the Ball” promos) from organized play due to them lacking a worldwide release.

As to why we’re getting this weird mid-season rotation there are a lot of theories running around but the one that makes the most sense is that TPCi wants to match Japan’s Standard rotation format going forward, which would mean that this style of rotation is going to be a permanent thing going forward.

What is the point of banning everything these days?
Competitive pokemon spergs are the only ones I've ever seen get more ban happy than the average discordfag.

The autists completely miss the point of pokemon being partners like in the anime where the entire point was to train them to take on battle frontier level competitions without all these retarded "restrictions" outside of no legendaries, which even the anime breaks a few times when nurse joy rolls up with a latias of her own and implying Latios/Latias are not legendaries anymore.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

What is the point of banning everything these days?
Competitive pokemon spergs are the only ones I've ever seen get more ban happy than the average discordfag.

The autists completely miss the point of pokemon being partners like in the anime where the entire point was to train them to take on battle frontier level competitions without all these retarded "restrictions" outside of no legendaries, which even the anime breaks a few times when nurse joy rolls up with a latias of her own and implying Latios/Latias are not legendaries anymore.

They weren't legendary to begin with. Latias and Latios are mythicals or low-teir legendary pokemon. With mythicals, It's possible that there are several of the same ones out there.

 

[Two Dollars]

They weren't legendary to begin with. Latias and Latios are mythicals or low-teir legendary pokemon. With mythicals, It's possible that there are several of the same ones out there.

I get them mixed up, but isn’t it the other way around? I think the distinction is that legendaries can be obtained normally in-game (implying there are several in the world) while mythicals can only be obtained through mystery gifts (implying there’s only one). But Mewtwo, Dialga, and Palkia are apparently not mythicals so I don’t know.

 

[Suspicious Penguin]

They weren't legendary to begin with. Latias and Latios are mythicals or low-teir legendary pokemon. With mythicals, It's possible that there are several of the same ones out there.

I get them mixed up, but isn’t it the other way around? I think the distinction is that legendaries can be obtained normally in-game (implying there are several in the world) while mythicals can only be obtained through mystery gifts (implying there’s only one). But Mewtwo, Dialga, and Palkia are apparently not mythicals so I don’t know.

Just look at "the year of legendary pokemon" and see how interchangeably and loosely they use the term "mythical" for box art legendaries to where it does not mean anything.

 

[BlazikenLover]

To be fair in the original R/S there was only the battle tower and the battle frontier didnt make an appearance outside the entire season of the anime dedicated to it until Emerald.

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I still want to see some of the anime and manga exclusive locations appear in the games for once. That Italy region looked way more interesting than galar.

I never heard of an Italy region, which movie/manga had it?

 

[Thiletonomics]

I get them mixed up, but isn’t it the other way around? I think the distinction is that legendaries can be obtained normally in-game (implying there are several in the world) while mythicals can only be obtained through mystery gifts (implying there’s only one). But Mewtwo, Dialga, and Palkia are apparently not mythicals so I don’t know.

The low-tier Legendaries (i.e. Latias/Latios) are usually only 1 per game (I think), and usually have 600 BST.

The cover Legendaries (i.e. Groudon and Kyogre, and Mewtwo, Dialga, and Palkia, are in this category as well) are also only 1 per game, and are called Special or Restricted Pokémon, with the latter being a term used in VGC. Those are usually not allowed in VGC, but are allowed in some years, i.e. 2016, 2019, and 2022 right now, and players can have a maximum of two of them on their team during those years.

IIRC, Mythicals (i.e. Arceus, and the other Mystery Gift ones) were never allowed in VGC.

 

[Dunsparce]

The low-tier Legendaries (i.e. Latias/Latios) are usually only 1 per game (I think), and usually have 600 BST.

The cover Legendaries (i.e. Groudon and Kyogre, and Mewtwo, Dialga, and Palkia, are in this category as well) are also only 1 per game, and are called Special or Restricted Pokémon, with the latter being a term used in VGC. Those are usually not allowed in VGC, but are allowed in some years, i.e. 2016, 2019, and 2022 right now, and players can have a maximum of two of them on their team during those years.

IIRC, Mythicals (i.e. Arceus, and the other Mystery Gift ones) were never allowed in VGC.

There are three separate designations in the coding of the games starting in Sun and Moon:

-Sub Legendaries: For the most part they are allowed in most formats with no restrictions outside of a handful of special tournaments(Note that while they are not actually Legendary lore-wise, Ultra Beasts are flagged as sub-legendaries in the coding of the games):
Articuno. Zapdos, Moltres, Raikou, Entei. Suicune, Regirock, Regice, Registeel, Latias, Latios, Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf, Heatran, Regigigas, Cresselia, Cobalion, Terrakion, Virizion, Tornadus, Thundurus, Landorus, Type: Null, Silvally, Tapu Koko, Tapu Lele, Tapu Bulu, Tapu Fini, Nihilego, Buzzwole, Pherosmosa, Xurkitree, Celesteela, Kartana, Guzzlord, Poipole, Naganadel, Stakataka, Blacephalon, Kubfu, Urshifu, Regiekeki, Regidrago, Glastrier, Spectrier, and Enamorus

-Restricted Legendaries: Banned from most battle facilities and often limited to one or two per team in official tournaments if they are allowed at all:
Mewtwo, Lugia, Ho-oh, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem, Xerneas, Yveltal, Zygarde, Cosmog, Cosmoem, Solgaleo, Lunala, Necrozma, Zacian, Zamazenta, Eternatus, Calyrex, and most likely both Koraidon and Miraidon

-Mythicals: Banned from most battle facilities, and are never allowed in tournaments outside of very extreme circumstances(so far only in the very final Gen VII wifi tournament where any species caught in any game could be used in a free-for-all as a big grand finale to the 3DS era of the series):
Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Phione, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus, Victini, Keldeo, Meloetta, Genesect, Diancie, Hoopa, Volcanion, Magearna, Marshadow, Zeraora, Meltan, Melmetal, and Zarude

 

[Suspicious Penguin]

I never heard of an Italy region, which movie/manga had it?

Nice joke lol. The Italy themed region was in Pokemon Heroes, the movie centered around Latios and Latias with all the Italian canals and Latias constantly soaking people with the canal water and flying around the place like its the death star trench run. Why did none of the games ever factor in their ability to turn invisible and shape shift into people they have encountered before?

The orange league needs to be introduced as an endgame area at some point when the next kanto remake is announced. The closest we ever got was FRLG's post game.

 

[Lone Star]

What is the point of banning everything these days?
Competitive pokemon spergs are the only ones I've ever seen get more ban happy than the average discordfag.

The autists completely miss the point of pokemon being partners like in the anime where the entire point was to train them to take on battle frontier level competitions without all these retarded "restrictions" outside of no legendaries, which even the anime breaks a few times when nurse joy rolls up with a latias of her own and implying Latios/Latias are not legendaries anymore.

Never liked it when some random nobody had one, or sometimes multiple legendaries in the anime. Really takes a lot of the impact away when the physical manifestation of an abstract idea or element is used in a friendly match for shits and giggles.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Never liked it when some random nobody had one, or sometimes multiple legendaries in the anime. Really takes a lot of the impact away when the physical manifestation of an abstract idea or element is used in a friendly match for shits and giggles.

"Bugcatcher Joey sent out Mewtwo!"

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

Never liked it when some random nobody had one, or sometimes multiple legendaries in the anime. Really takes a lot of the impact away when the physical manifestation of an abstract idea or element is used in a friendly match for shits and giggles.

You say that, but that's exactly the case for the main line games. I'd say they're just staying true to the source material.

 

[PipTheAlchemist]

What is the point of banning everything these days?
Competitive pokemon spergs are the only ones I've ever seen get more ban happy than the average discordfag.

The autists completely miss the point of pokemon being partners like in the anime where the entire point was to train them to take on battle frontier level competitions without all these retarded "restrictions" outside of no legendaries, which even the anime breaks a few times when nurse joy rolls up with a latias of her own and implying Latios/Latias are not legendaries anymore.

Legendaries are not meant to be "one-of-a-kind" godlike beasts. A better way of thinking about them is being the Pokemon-equivalent of cryptids such as Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster in the real world. With I guess mythicals being the most "cryptic" of the cryptids
Nurse Joy owning a Latias would be like if your local doctor owned a pet Vaquita. Extremely improbable, but not impossible

 

[Dunsparce]

Legendaries are not meant to be "one-of-a-kind" godlike beasts. A better way of thinking about them is being the Pokemon-equivalent of cryptids such as Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster in the real world. With I guess mythicals being the most "cryptic" of the cryptids
Nurse Joy owning a Latias would be like if your local doctor owned a pet Vaquita. Extremely improbable, but not impossible

Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee has an arbitrary number of Articuno/Zapdos/Moltres in the game. While there is only one of each as a pre-set stationary encounter, after you unlock flying mounts in the post-game you have a rare chance of running into more of any of the three when in the air.

 

[Archeops]

What is the point of banning everything these days?
Competitive pokemon spergs are the only ones I've ever seen get more ban happy than the average discordfag.

The autists completely miss the point of pokemon being partners like in the anime where the entire point was to train them to take on battle frontier level competitions without all these retarded "restrictions" outside of no legendaries, which even the anime breaks a few times when nurse joy rolls up with a latias of her own and implying Latios/Latias are not legendaries anymore.

In the case of TCG bans/Standard-format rotations it's largely to prevent crazy "Win by turn 0" combos and annoying card-denial combos from becoming dominant in the game (Expanded has one in the form of an Electrode card from a later SM-era set, a Mew from a middle XY-era set, a powerful Energy card from a early SM-era set, and a hodgepodge mix of Tag Team GXs with power Tag Team GX attacks) as well as keeping the power creep contained to an extent.

 

[Twatette]

A bunch of apparently real leaks happened sometime yesterday. A few new Pokemon plus some Gym Leaders.
This is the account who posted them, but they're private right now.
(I know I'm potentially posting a bunch of fake shit and I'm sorry, but the graphical style is basically identical to the actual game so it's leading me to mostly believe they're real.)

Spoiler: Sorry for the really crappy formatting.

Spoiler: New Mons

Spoiler: Full Images

Spoiler: Gym Leaders

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[woowie queen]

one of those leaked gym leaders looks like a tiktoker. and one seems to have a magnemite-inspired hairstyle.

 

[NerdShamer]

Well the epilogue of Sword turned out to be an watered down Delta Episode; and I loved how that the game went "Congratulations! You are now the Champion, now explore the rest of the Galar Region!" despite the fact that there's hardly anything else in it, at this point. Sure, there's the side quest for the box legendary, the DLCs, and the Battle Tower; but I think they were too busy designing the Wild Area to throw in an hidden cavern or two. But it isn't without it's good moments, like Leon commenting that you've brought that energy monster to the prize fight.


Hopefully, Scarlet & Violet doesn't shit the bed, but you never know, nowadays.