Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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The two characters whom I assume are gonna be our DLC rivals look so lame. Literally just emo bootlegs of those new Fire Emblem protagonists. I hope they don't get shoved into our faces every other minute during whatever the plot is gonna be.

all human characters from sv look like fortnite skins
 
Thank fuck Online Terra Raids let you catch both of the new Paradox Pokémon regardless of version, because I only have one friend IRL who plays Violet and I forgot just how retarded the AI Trainers are. I was fully expecting them to do something retarded like make Scarlet players unable to join Iron Leaves Raids and vice versa.

Speaking of - the new Paradox Pokémon definitely seem designed to compliment the Box Art Legendaries in Doubles (God’s Chosen Format, fight me) - Walking Wake getting a Stat Boost in it’s highest stat (usually Soecial Attack) in harsh sunlight, Iron Leaves getting a Stat Boost in it’s highest stat (usually Attack) on Electric Terrain, and both their signature moves receiving a 50% Strength Increase under the same conditions? Sign me up for shenanigans.
 
I can't with this DLC price. 34 dollars!? 34 FUCKING DOLLARS!??!?? Jesus Christ.
>35 dollars for one version's DLC
>70 dollars for both
>70
>dollars



oh fuck $70 mainline games are happening next aren't they

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So apparently Hydro Steam, Walking Wake's signature move, is actually boosted in the sun, not lowered. This might make it an extremely interesting addition to Sun Teams, or a great sun counter.
Keep in mind that it's a water type move so it should also still be boosted in the rain.
 
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Its kind of intimidating going from Gen 1-6 to whatever the series is now. Its still pokemon but feels...odd. Thats not a bad thing, Im just saying watching the footage feels so alien at this point from where it all started that it almost feels all a tad intimidating.

Oh well, I guess its still fun to see how they keep trying to move things forward at least.
 
Keep in mind that it's a water type move so it should also still be boosted in the rain.
The same applies with Psyblade, having two Terrains it should be buffed in (psychic and electric).

Indirectly, Hydro Steam sorta buffs Snow and Sandstorm, as they become a much better counter to sun teams than rain is. But it definitely buffs sun way more.
 
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Posting new mons; art was ripped from the official site. Names are in their filenames. All spoilered in case people wanna go in blind.


opinions?
The new legendary turtle and the bird look pretty cool, but the others are pretty meh and the dog looks like ass. Since the turtle has every type on its shell I wonder if he'll have a non-nerfed version of protean.
 
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Its almost like a coordinated effort to kill a certain hobby by pricing out most of the market and gatekeeping anyone there to do their jobs.
I was immensely confused by this post at first, because why would Game freak want to price out the market of... playing pokemon games...????

Wouldnt mind a pokemon card bubble pop at this point. Its clear the majority of people don’t give a shit about it as the funny meme of the day and are only there to inflate prices for everything.
But then it became clear your post about the dlc being pricey to beat out some market... was because you're an illiterate tcg guy. Got it.

Some discussion from around the web of the new Pokémon and events:
The teal mask's stars appear to be based on Momotaro.

A boy goes out on an adventure with a Dog, a Monkey, and a Pheasant to capture and defeat an Oni/Ogre/Demon. It'd line up perfectly with the Dog, Monkey, and Pheasant not-quite-starters being... well, not-quite-starters. Ogrepon is obviously the demon.

Kitakami is an actual prefecture in Japan.

The three not-starters - what I'm hence calling the Momotrio - also each have a pun of sorts their name incorporates:

Okidoji is a corruption of Okey-dokey.
Munkidori is a corruption of Hunky-dory.
And Fezandipiti is hard to spell. and a corruption of Serendipity.

That's not all there is to their names, but it's another layer to them. Probably ties into their "good" sides, which may suggest that they genuinely are Pokemon with two forms rather than two separate final species. Still maintain they're split-starter-prototypes.

Aside from that, there's this image going around with Terapagos.
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EDIT: Oh yeah, almost forgot.

There's a rumour going around that Dondozo can vore Walking Wake, because it's coded to vore any water/dragon type Pokémon.

This is likely a lie - there's no footage, and it's Tatsugiri's ability, not Dondozo's that causes the vore in the first place. But it's still a really funny mental image.
 
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Wouldnt mind a pokemon card bubble pop at this point. Its clear the majority of people don’t give a shit about it as the funny meme of the day and are only there to inflate prices for everything.
The Pokémon TCG "bubble" is technically more of a ball that deflates and reinflates with hype, certain alt arts and secret-rares still push a $100+ price tag on the resale market but the prices for a majority of Crown Zenith's chase card are dropping as more packs are opened. It's also gotten easier to get sealed products compared to how bad is was during the pandemic, just look at how easy it is to pick up one of those Charizard Ultra-Premium Collections (and how you can probably pay less than $100 USD too).

My biggest fear right now is how TPCi changing the pack structure (and MSRP for products) starting with Scarlet & Violet and how that affects the resale market, I'm already seeing some worrying signs in the form of "Gallery" cards being classified as Secret Rares and rumors about the whole "3 holos per pack" bit just amounting to there being two reverse-holos and a guaranteed holo rare or higher with one of those reverse holos having a chance of being a second holo rare or higher.
But then it became clear your post about the dlc being pricey to beat out some market... was because you're an illiterate tcg guy. Got it.
To be fair SV's DLC does cost a bit more than SWSH's Expansion Pass but that depends on if a $5 USD increase fits the bill.
 
35 for one DLC? swsh was 30 for both if i remember right.
and i thought usum was a cashgrab half a decade ago.

I was immensely confused by this post at first, because why would Game freak want to price out the market of... playing pokemon games...????


But then it became clear your post about the dlc being pricey to beat out some market... was because you're an illiterate tcg guy. Got it.

Some discussion from around the web of the new Pokémon and events:
The teal mask's stars appear to be based on Momotaro.

A boy goes out on an adventure with a Dog, a Monkey, and a Pheasant to capture and defeat an Oni/Ogre/Demon. It'd line up perfectly with the Dog, Monkey, and Pheasant not-quite-starters being... well, not-quite-starters. Ogrepon is obviously the demon.

Kitakami is an actual prefecture in Japan.

The three not-starters - what I'm hence calling the Momotrio - also each have a pun of sorts their name incorporates:

Okidoji is a corruption of Okey-dokey.
Munkidori is a corruption of Hunky-dory.
And Fezandipiti is hard to spell. and a corruption of Serendipity.

That's not all there is to their names, but it's another layer to them. Probably ties into their "good" sides, which may suggest that they genuinely are Pokemon with two forms rather than two separate final species. Still maintain they're split-starter-prototypes.

Aside from that, there's this image going around with Terapagos.
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EDIT: Oh yeah, almost forgot.

There's a rumour going around that Dondozo can vore Walking Wake, because it's coded to vore any water/dragon type Pokémon.

This is likely a lie - there's no footage, and it's Tatsugiri's ability, not Dondozo's that causes the vore in the first place. But it's still a really funny mental image.

If you hack a wailord with tatsugiris ability, can dodonzo vore it?
 
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35 for one DLC? swsh was 30 for both if i remember right.
You are remembering right lol, they raised the price. Now it's 70 for both instead of 60, so the DLC is actually more expensive than the base game if you get both versions of the game's separate DLCs. I guarantee you it will be even less worth it than SwSh's.

and i thought usum was a cashgrab half a decade ago.
it was, don't worry
the new being so terrible does not excuse the old being bad either, it's why nobody remembers X&Y fondly despite it being in its prime for zoomer nostalgia atm


If you hack a wailord with tatsugiris ability, can dodonzo vore it?
Please do not put such images in my brain sir they disturb me greatly
 
Wouldnt mind a pokemon card bubble pop at this point. Its clear the majority of people don’t give a shit about it as the funny meme of the day and are only there to inflate prices for everything.
Pokemon cards got way too popular for its own good, i feel like its lost its fun value once people staring making videos about it.
also I love how they are charging more for DLC when the base game was glitchy as is, i was one of the few people who thought DLC was a good idea. leave to Gamefreak to somehow fuck it up, i guess.
 
35 for one DLC? swsh was 30 for both if i remember right.
and i thought usum was a cashgrab half a decade ago.

You are remembering right lol, they raised the price. Now it's 70 for both instead of 60, so the DLC is actually more expensive than the base game if you get both versions of the game's separate DLCs. I guarantee you it will be even less worth it than SwSh's.
Maybe I'm reading your posts wrong, but it's $35 for both parts of the DLC, not separately. SwSh was $30 both, but it's the same deal in that your DLC only works on the version you bought it for (which is fucking stupid).

I kinda wish GF (and Nintendo to some extent) got slapped with some kind of "anti-consumer" lawsuit or something to pull their heads out of their ass, because that's exactly what this underhanded "it only for one version" shit is. If the SwSh DLC is anything to go by, the only version differences are encounter tables and a single character being replaced by another, there is ZERO excuse on any technical level for them to be allowed to do this nonsense. Plus, you know, when the biggest franchise in the industry is a-ok with trying to exploit your wallet so blatantly, what message does that set for the rest of the industry that's already scummy as fuck as is? The whole damn industry needs to be burned to the ground and started again, for the second damn time, if I'm being perfectly honest. As much as I love Pokemon, it's about as good of an example as you can get of game companies being exploitive towards their customers.
 
pokemon cards got way too popular for its own good, i feel like its lost its fun value once people staring making videos about it.
I blame cr1tikal. Hes the one who gave them the idea to scalp them en-masse in the first place. The whole point of buying individual cards was to complete a deck you had in mind that someone didn't mind parting with for some beer money. Not to launder insane amounts of money that youtube actually does crack down on as "deceptive business practices" according to some vocal vtrannies.

Pokemon has been just pumping out mostly shitty fakemons I don't care about ever since black/white. Sun/moon and ORAS was a brief comeback but so far the switch games besides BDSP have been a disappointment to me that I've watched from the sidelines. Even BDSP was shitty since it also brought all of D/P's problems with it, like unobtainable trade evolutions since theres no reason to pay a subscription for something that has always been free in previous titles, trading online, and not being able to catch the whole pokedex in game with some effort like you could with Sun/moon, which was peak pokemon and the perfected formula outside of the constant story speedbumps.
 
Maybe I'm reading your posts wrong, but it's $35 for both parts of the DLC, not separately. SwSh was $30 both, but it's the same deal in that your DLC only works on the version you bought it for (which is fucking stupid).

I kinda wish GF (and Nintendo to some extent) got slapped with some kind of "anti-consumer" lawsuit or something to pull their heads out of their ass, because that's exactly what this underhanded "it only for one version" shit is. If the SwSh DLC is anything to go by, the only version differences are encounter tables and a single character being replaced by another, there is ZERO excuse on any technical level for them to be allowed to do this nonsense. Plus, you know, when the biggest franchise in the industry is a-ok with trying to exploit your wallet so blatantly, what message does that set for the rest of the industry that's already scummy as fuck as is? The whole damn industry needs to be burned to the ground and started again, for the second damn time, if I'm being perfectly honest. As much as I love Pokemon, it's about as good of an example as you can get of game companies being exploitive towards their customers.
Pokemon legit got lucky it could get away with it, yokai watched died because they tried the same thing among other games that tried the multiple version route, like battle network.
 
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