Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

Just started Violet for the first time and holy shit

What's up with the character designs? Everyone looks horrendous. It's like they picked a lone subject and then tried to craft a humanoid figure around it, it's so offputting to me to see all these extreme hairdos and clothing. Now, i havent played a main series title in a while, but i dont remember the characters ever looking this bad before.

Nemona is the only decent design so far, and that's just because of how basic it is, when compared to everything else, she shines.

I bet the random trainers you find were all created with a randomizer. They have zero personality at all in their looks.
 
Pokemon Presents coming on August 8th. My prediction was only a week or two off, I am clearly a clairvoyant. :smug:

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Okay, but seriously- what are you guys expecting? It's supposed to be about 35 minutes long and it has its own unique little teaser, so I think there'll be a bunch of DLC news and maybe some announcements for spin-offs or other media as well. I might be jumping the gun a bit here but it feels like it's building up to something sorta big. At the very least, I can't remember the last Presents that got its own 15 second trailer like this. Considering the teaser i'm almost tempted to say there'll be a focus on Detective Pikachu- possibly a revival of the movie's sequel- considering how much emphasis there is on the neon, but honestly I'm not getting my hopes very slightly raised. I'll just watch on Monday and see what happens.

EDIT: I will watch on Monday after the fact because I just remembered about something else that's more important and at the exact same time, whoops. Regardless, I'll do a write-up on it after the presentation if nobody else has by the time I've gone through it all.
Alright, so:
  • Present starts with World Championship news which is irrelevant to the outside world. Merch announcement and clarification of dates I think.
  • Goes on to Detective Pikachu Returns "news". Apparently there's some sort of helper system with Pokemon you meet aaand... that's it. Oh yeah, it releases on October 6th. They spent like 6 minutes of the Direct on this.
  • Next up is info we already know- Nemona is coming to Masters today with Pawmot.
  • Similar situation- Tatsugiri is now available in Pokemon Cafe Remix and there's some kind of special promotion around in-game currency around the same time.
  • Pokemon Sleep is having events, apparently? On the night of the full moon your "Drowsy Power" will be boosted.
  • Two new animated series- one already mentioned here:
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- This art style needs die. This looks awful and I hate the minority pandering.

- A bunch of mobile bullshit...

- Pokemon Gameboy TCG and Stadium 2 coming to switch sounds fun.

- The Teal Mask looks like it actually has a competent narrative which is neat.

- But The Indigo Disk is just more school life sim which doesn't particularly interest me. Then again I don't have SV so oh well.

This was a very underwhelming presentation. At least I might be able to have fun with the Stadium mini games for a while and I've never played the GBC card game so I'm looking forward to that.
  • (called "Path to the Peak"), and another named Paldean Winds that's supposed to be a slice-of-life anime. Seems like some kind of drama, maybe. Winds releases on September 6th and has the usual anime art style.
  • Character designs suck aaaasssss though. They're either too generic (fat kid) or just plain bad (blue-haired guy). Standard fare.
  • The usual anime also got a trailer, except it's literally fucking nothing. No release date, no nothing, just some b-roll of the aired episodes in Japan with a Pikachu squeak and a "Coming Soon". There isn't even voice acting lmfao
  • Paldean Pokemon will be available in GO starting from September- I don't think they gave a specific date. Also there are GO Fests throughout the month in specific places and a global one in late August.
  • Mew distribution in Scarlet/Violet with randomized Tera, Nature, IVs, etc. Meant to fight against the upcoming Mewtwo 7-star raid that doesn't have a unique Tera type and runs throughout the first three weeks of September.
  • Pokemon TCG (on Gameboy) coming to Switch Online, as is Stadium 2. Stadium 2 probably still necessitates rentals and has no connectivity, but at least you can play the minigames online!
That's everything outside of SV DLC.
It took up a collective ~25 minutes of the presentation.
As one of the YouTube comments says- I am astounded by TPC's ability to pad for time!
Anyways, there's everything I don't have thoughts on out of the way. Serebii is really funny right now because he has wild typos under every section of the article, so if you want to hear more dry info with a side of autism then go look at his site.
I'm just gonna rant for the rest of this.
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Give us $35 and you can use PkHex in an official game!
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Give us $35 and you can play the exact same minigame you played in Legends Arceus, just with a different mount!
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Give us $35 to use extremely basic photo mode features that should not have been fucking paywalled!
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Give us $35 or you'll be locked out of future in-game events for not having DLC!
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Give us $35 dollars to use the Mega Evolution/Gigantamax equivalent of this generation!
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Why not pay us $35 to unlock one extremely lazy and one extremely overdesigned evolution for Pokemon that clearly should've gotten them (didn't need them in the slightest compared to many other mon in the dex) within the generation they debuted in (the one immediately before this one, might I add), one of which has an incredibly overpowered debuff move that lowers speed for 3 turns straight (alongside dealing damage) and lowers evasiveness upon entering battle?
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Or how about paying $35 for some of the worst desecration of old Pokemon design you will ever lay your eyes upon?
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How about giving us $35 dollars to unlock the permanent flight ability we made to be limited and incredibly frustrating to use in the base game?
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Or handing over those $35 to do basic things you could in past games like decorating a room (not yours btw), rematching gym leaders, changing how you throw pokeballs, or clicking on text boxes to learn worldbuilding we were "unfortunately unable" to integrate into the game?
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Alternatively, you could just hand that $35 over to be able to coom more easily while you play. Coom coom coom coom coom.
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Oh, and we promise there's a reason for that title. It totally connects back to Area Zero somehow, totally. We promise. 100%. We just won't tell you even a single thing about how, or if you'll be unlocking new areas there, or if anything interesting will happen.
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Don't wait! Preorder today! The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero (a big middle finger with your cash in its fist) awaits!
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Alright, rant aside, it's worth noting that i'm not actually mad. I mean- I am, a little, but this rant was done in jest. I've been watching too much RadicalSoda as of late for me not to attempt a pale imitation of his unhinged rants. I don't actually give a shit because I won't be purchasing anything; I haven't since Arceus, and before then nothing since Ultra Sun.

I'm just amused by how blatantly and loudly TPC is basically stating "Yep! We have nothing to show you for this DLC that you haven't already seen. Nothing good, anyways. Now give us even more of your money!"

It's the same kind of humor I get from watching The Sims 4 continue to eat shit and die while its fans cheer it on and applaud (or grumble a little, but they still buy it anyways) for the 47th Kit released that year!
Something I love (or once loved) being repeatedly beaten to death, shat on, tarnished, etc while you huff your own farts about how right you are for not buying it anymore. That kind of humor. The only coping mechanism left for the empty consoomerist soul.

All of this looks like dog shit and not worth the price, but that was a given from the word go.
All of the new designs are somehow stooping even lower than the already beneath-ground bar of quality set for them in the base game, but that was to be expected.
The only decent character design is Briar (I say decent and not good because I think her outfit is kind of too loud for her hair and the kind of character she seems to be), the only decent POKEMON design is Terapagos' terastalized form, and all of this would've made me cry if I was still 8 years old. But I'm not, so I don't. Instead, I laugh!

Because seriously, how the fuck can someone honestly claim that the art style and design philosophy hasn't degraded when being presented with shit like this?
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In closing, I shall leave you all with this.
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Fucking lol.
 
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Or handing over those $35 to do basic things you could in past games like decorating a room (not yours btw), rematching gym leaders, changing how you throw pokeballs, or clicking on text boxes to learn worldbuilding we were "unfortunately unable" to integrate into the game?
And to this day, I'm still happy that I haven't got Scarlet, yet
 
Couldn't catch the stream but just got done catching up.
I had no idea they had this many spin-offs around currently, yet Pokemon Mystery Dungeon isn't among them. Considering the absolute state of Pokemon it might be for the better to not see it dragged through the mud.
The storylines for the DLCs sound neat and it'd be cool to see Larry or Rika again with that invite thing they showed off but I still can't see myself getting the DLC when I can't be sure whether the Battle Tower is in or not.
And I don't know whats worse, it missing entirely or it being pay walled when it was already the bare minimum for postgames in previous gens.
 
As bad as the DLC pricing is, I just noticed one thing that's funny to me. They're adding Scarlet and Violet Pokémon to GO like it's a huge deal...but isn't GO still missing a majority of the Sword and Shield Pokémon? I don't think the starters are even in it yet.
No clue. I just find it funny that it took Niantic 7 years to add any Pokemon from every single gen and they're still not done
when all they probably need to do is, like, program spawn locations and evolution candy amounts
because all the moves are already in a moveset that can be very easily tweaked to be missing 90% of its components
and the models have been done since 2012

I still can't see myself getting the DLC when I can't be sure whether the Battle Tower is in or not.
From what I can discern, it's been replaced with paywalled gym leader rematches and a shitty rehash of Island Trials from Alola. I have a hard time believing they wouldn't've mentioned a Battle Tower in this Presents if it was returning.
 
Couldn't catch the stream but just got done catching up.
I had no idea they had this many spin-offs around currently, yet Pokemon Mystery Dungeon isn't among them. Considering the absolute state of Pokemon it might be for the better to not see it dragged through the mud.
The storylines for the DLCs sound neat and it'd be cool to see Larry or Rika again with that invite thing they showed off but I still can't see myself getting the DLC when I can't be sure whether the Battle Tower is in or not.
And I don't know whats worse, it missing entirely or it being pay walled when it was already the bare minimum for postgames in previous gens.
Pokemon ranger hasn't been considered in over a decade either. Though what killed that series imo was making it more shonen. Shadows of Almia was the best one. Would be neat to have an entry that lets you use the entire regional dex instead of a handful of wild pokemon throughout the game

Loved that it had connections to the mainline gen 4 games by allowing you to transfer the manaphy egg and a unique darkrai for the post game. You also didn't need to go through some autistic subscription service such as Pokemon bank in order to do it.
 
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In light of this, I fel that I need to replace the Bellsprout line with a Paradox Dunsparc evolution in my hack. While a Past Victreebell would fi the Pas theme, I knew that I needed th extra space, while I was wondering about putting a reference to Dunsparce apparently being able to fly in the past, anyways.

In total, the additions to my hack are:
  • Past Dunsparce
  • Applin
  • Appletun
  • Flapple
  • Dripplin
  • Normal Terapagos
  • Duraludon
  • Archaludon
  • Past Raikou
  • Future Cobalion
  • Past Entei
  • Future Terrakion
Wi the omissions, that would leave 2 slots without moving th Egg. If I need more room, I might replace the Scolipede line with a smaller line or get rid of a few betamon.

On evolutions:
  • Applin evolves into Appletun with igh friendship, since that fits how people tend to be fond and protective of Appletun.
  • Applin evolves into Flapple wi the Leaf Stone, since they are both Grass types.
  • Applin evolves into Dripple wi the Sun Stone, since not only is the Sun Stone also associated with Grass types, but Dripple has this melted appearance, even though that may be a reference to caramel-dipped apples.
  • Dunsparce volves into Past Dunsparce with either the Paleo Feed or Brick Piece.
  • Duraludon evolves into Archaludon wi the Moon Stone, since I fel that Archaludon's dark colour scheme fit a nightly theme.
  • Normal Terapagos evolves into Terastal Terapagos with igh LV (probably 54 or 72, multiples of 18, representing the 18 types), since the pokegold engine would probably have trouble with formes, and such a possibly strong legendary would need some sort of anti-OP measure.
You probably noticed that I added a past Entei and Future Terrakion. That is because, with Paradox formes of two parts of a trio, Paradox formes of the remaining members are inevitable. Ierven feel tha these trios are going to be polymerised into the imaginary fusions that appeared in those sketches.
I wonder what is going to happen to Keldeo, though. The legendary beasts do not really have a fourth member, the closest one bring that design done in that character design class tha the designer of the legendary beasts taught once (which I recycled into a mon called 'Tenshou' in my hack).
 
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Yeah...but with Pokemon Ranger I think its a matter of them not being able to replicate how frantically you could draw circles on the DS compared to other hardware.
Didn't stop them from emulating the DS touchpad in every other DS port or remake on the switch.

Since we have Legends Arceus now, all they'd need to do is rework the capture spinner to fit into that open world gameplay. Just make the camera go overhead and have the capture spinner controlled by either thumbsticks or using the touchscreen instead of having the battle system PLA had. Since they're already more than half way there using the various sacred pokemon the same way every pokemon is used in Ranger. The PLA throwing and sneaking mechanics would be a nice addition to that spinoff series.
 
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This video just popped up, and I won't lie, I'm somewhat intrigued.
dude sounds like a fag but it was informative.
I watched the prequel, too, but didn't enjoy it as much.
Don't watch if you have the strong urge to punch any metrosexual you see because otherwise you will be firmly gripping your chair for an hour straight
 
Ok your rant about the DLC @Anonitolia are both fair and stupid like the Photo mode and pkhex stuff should be in the base game but while the the stuffs like the mega gmax equivalent stuff you said ,did you forget that they did that with ORAS but worse since you can't use ORAS mega in XY even in BW2 you can't even use alternate forms in BW2 on base BW at least with the DLC you just update your base game and trade with those mons and able to use them like SWSH with its DLC also the evo immediately after a gen happen in fucking gen 2 did you fucking forget Steelix or Blissey also what desecration of old mons those 2 are just paradox mons that base on Raikou and Cobalion like Walking Wake and Iron Leaves are base on Suicune and Virizion also since Walking Wake is base on some dinosaur raptor of course the Raikou one will be base on some dino too, liking or disliking a design are subjective but thinking this some new low it always happen with every generations like the last one some your rants are good like the room decor ,gym rematch and flying stuffs but some are just plain fucking stupid but only the ones I mentioned but still I'm neutral about the present I like the new anime web animation since I like the one they did with Hisui and Galar ones while other stuff are just plain eh to me.
I'm the user @Down_the_stars I just didn't care enough to remember or save my old account ever since KF got fuck up so I didn't try but I've been lurking KF recently these days so new account
 
Ok your rant about the DLC @Anonitolia are both fair and stupid like the Photo mode and pkhex stuff should be in the base game but while the the stuffs like the mega gmax equivalent stuff you said ,did you forget that they did that with ORAS but worse since you can't use ORAS mega in XY even in BW2 you can't even use alternate forms in BW2 on base BW at least with the DLC you just update your base game and trade with those mons and able to use them like SWSH with its DLC also the evo immediately after a gen happen in fucking gen 2 did you fucking forget Steelix or Blissey also what desecration of old mons those 2 are just paradox mons that base on Raikou and Cobalion like Walking Wake and Iron Leaves are base on Suicune and Virizion also since Walking Wake is base on some dinosaur raptor of course the Raikou one will be base on some dino too, liking or disliking a design are subjective but thinking this some new low has been said is quite stupid it always happen in every generations like last one some your rant are good like the room decor but some are just plain fucking stupid like I already mentioned but still I'm neutral about the present I like the new anime web animation since I like the one they did with Hisui and Galar ones while other stuff are just plain eh to me.
I'm the user @Down_the_stars I just didn't care enough to remember or save my old account ever since KF got fuck up so I didn't try but I've been lurking KF recently these days so new account
I pray that some day you learn the wonders of punctuation and finally become able to articulate yourself in a legible manner
 
Look I'm using a mobile version of TOR with a old phone
that's fair enough but pretty much your entire post history is really hard to parse so i'm mentioning it regardless

horrible formatting aside: "every generation people say it's a new low so that criticism means nothing" is reductive as sin, especially when the designs you're going to bat for are "Applin with a stick on its head and a melted bit (as a full fucking evolution)" and "Duraludon but you can barely tell where its face is due to the very harsh color palette and overcrowding of features and also it looks like a backward stapler but is also a bridge and its legs are bridge supports"
either that or "Raikou with all of its good features removed" and "Cobalion with a metal coat of paint and even longer neck"

I refuse to set my standards so low that i'll accept the shit this generation has tried to push- I'm not okay with Palafin being nearly identical to Finizen (Hero form discounted because I like to imagine it doesn't exist), nor am I okay with Toedscool being a textbook recolor or almost every single Violet Paradox being "[pokemon] but robotic", so why should I lower my standards and accept these new designs any more than the slightly-older ones?

I also really don't care about the Mochi not being in the base game nearly as much as I do anything else. If anything, a (sort of) new addition geared around aiding competitive play (a very niche offshoot of normal gameplay that's mostly for hardcore fans) seems like the ideal thing to leave for DLC considering the context. It's not even remotely comparable to locking moving the camera away from your player in photo mode or making your pokemon stop in place instead of glitch through the floor and/or spin in circles around your player character behind a $35 paywall.

"The old games did this too" is also false equivalence because ORAS and BW2 were completely separate sequel games to the debuts of their generation that you're comparing them to (XY and BW respectively) instead of DLC, of-fucking-course they're going to have new content that isn't compatible with the old. They were also made during times when internet-based gaming content was only just starting to become modern, with the DS having 0 framework for updating older games at all outside of local events or rereleases and the 3DS only toying with the feature to any significant extent later within its life.
The ORAS comparison is somewhat more valid due to the fact that it was 1) presumably made by similar people to SV, and definitely the same director 2) a comparison of regional gimmick forms instead of battle formes, and 3) probably entirely possible to update XY with the ORAS megas (and they just didn't do it)... but again, refer to my earlier clarification as to why I still think you're wrong.

the evo immediately after a gen happen in fucking gen 2 did you fucking forget Steelix or Blissey also what desecration of old mons those 2 are
This is just terrible taste and I refuse to entertain it further (not to mention that this example was from a time before the series had an extremely long and established history of cutting content to sell back to the consumer later; these two are also some of the first cross-generation evolutions in history- without them, it's questionable as to whether the concept would exist at all so it's unfair to pit them up against examples from 20 years later that have totally different expectations behind them).

In conclusion: you are dumb and wrong, please learn to use periods and commas so that your sentiment can actually be made out next time (even if it won't change the fact that I strongly disagree with almost all of it anyways), and Raikou being a Sauropod is like the last issue that comes to mind when looking at that cacophany of a design.
 
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