Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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Idk personally I don't mind the edgy grim Pokedex entries. In fact I wish there was more grim and edgy things in pokemon. Like the worm portal that takes you to the post apocalyptic town with the reversed music. Straight out a creepypasta. Same for the ending of SV pure poke pasta territory with actual death. I would not mind them making full on spooky shit either. The whole final fight in PLA against male Cynthia guy was amazing especially when Giritina showed up.
 
I don't mind the dark stuff but it needs to be well thought out, else it comes off like shitty fanfiction. Like, BW has N being an abused brainwashed child, but he actually grows beyond that and comes out of the story with an expanded view of the world... More recent games just come off more as pointlessly meanspirited in a lot of ways.
 
I blame whoever decided Eviolite was a good item to add to the series.

Yes, they can easily just not add it to a game, but that single item is, imo, likely the reason why they slowed down on giving older Pokémon new evolutions and pivoted to Regional Forms whenever they want to give a Pokemon a new evolution.
It has nothing to do with Eviolite. The reason new evolution stages don't happen often is because the moment they do that, they have to go back and give a bunch of Pokemon the same treatment. Plus, they have to rebalance the entire game around it. New evolutions carry the same problem as Megas I listed above.

Regional variants are better in every way. Why? Because I can spew them out endlessly and never have to deal with them again if I fucked it up. They buff out the Pokedex, there's no balancing or scaling issues, and most importantly there's no pressure if they suck because I can just do it again.

Eviolite made unviable Pokemon useful and gave previous evolutions some meta use. If anything, they should do MORE items like Eviolite.

I'm talking mostly about Scyther if I'm being honest, and I don't think you'd argue with me that it with eviolite is a bit cracked
Scyther is a special case and it has one of the worst typing combos in the game. There's nothing wrong with Scyther. Scizor gets the benefit of being a Steel type, one of the best types in the game.

It doesn't help in BW2's case specifically that it released in the last year of the DS lifecycle, right before the release of 3DS.
It wasn't just a year, it was only a couple months beforehand.

the fucking GOAT that is Ferrothorn, having fun with Archeops / flying gem / acrobatics nukes. I remember the bridges as transitional set pieces very vividly.
It says a lot that Ferrothorn is still arguably the best Wall in the game to this day.

Archeops while not as great, is still scary. Archen is pretty good in LC due to it's massive base attack stat for a pre-evo.
 
Basically, all of this.

Gen 5 might be the best overall gen, but it's definitely the gen with the worst starters. Which is a shame because they don't really need much to fix them besides a few stat, typing, and appearance adjustments.
One big lesson Gamefreak did learn there is that they absolutely could not risk fucking up on the starters because they make the first impression on anyone playing the game. It doesn't matter if the game has Darmanitan as an insane fire type if you set the game down before you get to Lenora. Having Lilligant get insane later thanks to Quiver Dance and Own Tempo Petal Dance on does nothing if you drop the game at Burgh.

Every generation after worked hard to not fuck up starters again. Gen 6 had Fennekin and Froakie for winners (RIP Chespin, your middle stage was horrible). Gen 7 had Rowlet and Litten (though I don't like Incineroar's design). Gen 8 had Scorbunny and the Sobble line, though I do like Rillaboom. Gen 9 has Fuecoco and Sprigatito (Quaxley is ruined by the final evo).

You can mess up in the midgame as DPP shows - even that laughable lategame where Flint only works as a Fire type E4 member in Platinum is a meme because people cared enough about the game to point out how absurd it is. Fuck up the start and people won't be invested enough in it to make it to the end.
 
I don't mind the dark stuff but it needs to be well thought out, else it comes off like shitty fanfiction. Like, BW has N being an abused brainwashed child, but he actually grows beyond that and comes out of the story with an expanded view of the world... More recent games just come off more as pointlessly meanspirited in a lot of ways.
I mean he basically was in a cult and actually got his viewpoint challenged. It makes sense he goes from spouting the propaganda he was taught to being a free individual who wants to better the world.
 
I always love some good old Lillie hatred. You wanna explain your problem with her? I love the character and Alola, but unless its the anime, I never want to see them again.
Still annoyed USUM weren’t sequels with Lillie returning from Kanto and being League Champ.

If there was another time to do direct sequels with you being able to get more stuff it you had save date it was then.

It’s about the one time people were going ‘please sequel’ and unlike BW people liked and bought SM.

BW/2 not landing robbed us of the obvious sequel we should have got.
 
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Eviolite made unviable Pokemon useful and gave previous evolutions some meta use. If anything, they should do MORE items like Eviolite.
tfw Smogon cucks and bans the offensive version of Eviolite (probably called Evolatile) within weeks of its release in its debut game.
 
Pokemon is also one of the few franchises in the world for children that's for the most part, completely untouched by the Woke Mind Virus. So for the parents that do have kids, it's a "safe brand" for now. If Japan ever lets ESG into it's media and it creeps into GF, I promise you Pokemon would virtually die overnight.
In Japan they are.

In the West if you walk into a game store or a big enough place that sells toys Pokemon stuff usually takes up a shelf or two.

And then there is still the anime marketing all the cute stuff.

It also helps that the things people care about are the mons. No one actually cares about the games. Do the mons look like something I want a plush of? Yes. Good game.

SV was made to get some ESG/DEI points from Blackrock and Vanguard. That's why Paldea was an ugly, Brazilian shit hole with some of the ugliest, most unappealing character designs out there (I know Paldea is supposed to be based off Spain or Mexico, but I felt like I was in Brazil aka Hell). Arwen literally gets shit on by everybody including your character for being a guy who cares about his dog and missing parents while the games forces you to feel bad for that Antifa bitch Penny and her faggot friends (she's an unlikable bitch in the very end). I could go on autistic rants about Nemona. It's not as blunt as the other woke/ESG games we've seen, but it's in there. The Japanese were trashing the character designs, and tbh I expect Z-A or this new Switch game to be even uglier than SV. I know they're going to half-ass it.

Oh yea, I noticed they made merch for other generations besides the more popular ones. I'm not gonna lie: the dolls based off Paldea Pokemon are really cute like Greavard.
 
SV was made to get some ESG/DEI points from Blackrock and Vanguard. That's why Paldea was an ugly, Brazilian shit hole with some of the ugliest, most unappealing character designs out there (I know Paldea is supposed to be based off Spain or Mexico, but I felt like I was in Brazil aka Hell). Arwen literally gets shit on by everybody including your character for being a guy who cares about his dog and missing parents while the games forces you to feel bad for that Antifa bitch Penny and her faggot friends (she's an unlikable bitch in the very end). I could go on autistic rants about Nemona. It's not as blunt as the other woke/ESG games we've seen, but it's in there. The Japanese were trashing the character designs, and tbh I expect Z-A or this new Switch game to be even uglier than SV. I know they're going to half-ass it.

Oh yea, I noticed they made merch for other generations besides the more popular ones. I'm not gonna lie: the dolls based off Paldea Pokemon are really cute like Greavard.
Piss off. You're reading too much into what's honestly just a bad game. The only soy thing in SV aside from the character customizer crap was the MoistKrit reference and that's only because he's a Soylent laced faggot. Other than that, it presented what I person think is probably the best round of Pokemon in over a decade from a design perspective.
 
Piss off. You're reading too much into what's honestly just a bad game. The only soy thing in SV aside from the character customizer crap was the MoistKrit reference and that's only because he's a Soylent laced faggot. Other than that, it presented what I person think is probably the best round of Pokemon in over a decade from a design perspective.
Again, Arwen got pissed on by everybody, and was treated like a dumbass even though he cared about Pokemon and people in his life. Penny was just a spoiled Antifa bitch, but you're supposed to be cool with her and her faggot buddies never mind they exploited and harmed Pokemon like the Fire member. Aside from a few Pokemon like King Gambit, Greavard, and Primape's FYAD Ghost form a lot of the Paldean designs were kinda shitty (Pawmo is discount Pikachu with a 3rd form). It's not my fault the Japanese hated all of the human character designs like the manly female hikers and the Elite 4.

Yea, the Moist shit was really lame as fuck.
 
Arwen literally gets shit on by everybody including your character for being a guy who cares about his dog and missing parents while the games forces you to feel bad for that Antifa bitch Penny and her faggot friends (she's an unlikable bitch in the very end).
Again, Arwen got pissed on by everybody, and was treated like a dumbass even though he cared about Pokemon and people in his life. Penny was just a spoiled Antifa bitch, but you're supposed to be cool with her and her faggot buddies never mind they exploited and harmed Pokemon like the Fire member.
My god, I knew SV was shit based on what I'd seen of it but I had no idea it was that bad. I mean you might be making shit up but it sounds so exactly like what GF's been doing since gen 7 (male characters get treated like the scum of the Earth for the slightest of transgressions, female characters (plus Drayton I guess) get to be outright assholes and the audience is somehow gaslit into thinking they're good because muhwaifu) that I have to believe. At least Arven's treated mostly fine in his part of the plot I guess (that's basically the one thing I've seen, lol), but I guess that's just because there was literally no one else there to fuck things up; I knew Penny decided to be an asshole while Arven and Nemona were airing their actual problems during the finale; when else does Arven get shat on? I want to see it so I can get mad and add it to my autistic record file on how GF's writers room needs to be purged with fire.
 
My god, I knew SV was shit based on what I'd seen of it but I had no idea it was that bad. I mean you might be making shit up but it sounds so exactly like what GF's been doing since gen 7 (male characters get treated like the scum of the Earth for the slightest of transgressions, female characters (plus Drayton I guess) get to be outright assholes and the audience is somehow gaslit into thinking they're good because muhwaifu) that I have to believe. At least Arven's treated mostly fine in his part of the plot I guess (that's basically the one thing I've seen, lol), but I guess that's just because there was literally no one else there to fuck things up; I knew Penny decided to be an asshole while Arven and Nemona were airing their actual problems during the finale; when else does Arven get shat on? I want to see it so I can get mad and add it to my autistic record file on how GF's writers room needs to be purged with fire.
In SM Gladion does get respect from his sister but he was always kind of an outsider, and his butting heads with Hau was nice. SwSh does have Hop with a rough arc, but it's an arc I honestly like as he surpasses his brother by getting the other Box legend. Bede getting his own little humbling arc is off, but they clearly wanted one jerk rival there. I will say Peony deserves better daughters though.

I still stand by Arven deserving a better game though, and half of the shit with Kieran would have not even happened if his sister hadn't been such an overbearing bitch to him.

I knew Penny decided to be an asshole while Arven and Nemona were airing their actual problems during the finale; when else does Arven get shat on? I want to see it so I can get mad and add it to my autistic record file on how GF's writers room needs to be purged with fire.

The Mochi Madness sequence makes him out to be a clingy bastard which came out of nowhere.
 
Idk personally I don't mind the edgy grim Pokedex entries. In fact I wish there was more grim and edgy things in pokemon. Like the worm portal that takes you to the post apocalyptic town with the reversed music. Straight out a creepypasta. Same for the ending of SV pure poke pasta territory with actual death. I would not mind them making full on spooky shit either. The whole final fight in PLA against male Cynthia guy was amazing especially when Giritina showed up.
I still say SM plot is just the peak of fucked up in general.

Dad gets sucked into jellyfish portal. Wife goes insane trying to find jellyfish to get her husband back, turns her daughter into a jellyfish cosplayer because she’s that obsessed and her son into essentialy an alien killing weapon and after all that she forgets her reason for doing sll of this. Gets taken over by alien jellyfish. And game ends in a coma with it being unsure of if she’ll even get better and as a result her daughter, the friend you’ve spent the entire game with and honestly the closest they’ve probably ever had a player character with an npc since Red/Blue BW/N, leaves possibly never to be seen again.

And they still didn’t find the dad. The dad has no clue any of this even happened or who they even are any more.

So assuming the daughter and mom even come back the dad is still missing and if they ever find him he won’t even know them.
 
turns her daughter into a jellyfish cosplayer
She also seems to be dressing other people under her influence as UBs, too:
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The game could be playing this as a coincidence - I don't know if the other UBs apart from Nihilego were known to Aether - but she does offer to dress Hau up too. If it is true it makes me wonder which UB she would have dressed him up as...
 
She also seems to be dressing other people under her influence as UBs, too:
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The game could be playing this as a coincidence - I don't know if the other UBs apart from Nihilego were known to Aether - but she does offer to dress Hau up too. If it is true it makes me wonder which UB she would have dressed him up as...
I am now imagining Hau cosplaying as a Buzzswole.
 
Perhaps by the time I played S/M I was a jaded adult. But Lillie... ugh. Wally in Generation 3 wasn't overwhelming in the story. He sort of just fades out and in, pretty much another Rival. Lillie just steals the spotlight so much it annoyed me. They couldn't have made our protagonist Lillie and made us walk through the story? Would've been a fun twist to find that our mother is actually the head of a fucked-up evil organization and wants us out of the way, or something.

It's Silver on steroids. I was forced to care about her with little background. Poor little sickly frail girl with a big dream, it's so hard being the center of the universe!!! Ugh. I hated her simpy nature, when she got her character growth moment was when I was like, that's kinda better. It's the opposite of XY - instead of too little screentime for too many sidekicks, it's Lillie - The Pokémon Game.
 
it's Lillie - The Pokémon Game.
Actually playing as Lillie or Gladion in the games depending on gender would have been neat. It would have also given a reason for the player character never being seen again in the future games. They were literslly in a different region trying to fix the mother of all family issues.

In fact you could double twist it. PC is found by their dad but the dad has no clue who the f you are so that’s the reason for character creation. The dude is asking you who you are because they straight don’t know.
 
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