Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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NYC (ACTUAL NYC) was the only thing they got right. The most obvious "wtf" moment being a literal fucking sandstorm desert next to it (which no, isn't a real thing).

The worst offender is Long Island, because it's basically Hoenn Pacifidlog Town 2 Electric Boogaloo. Like, how much of Long Island did they actually travel to, because it's not all JUST beaches and sand and docks and shit.

I love this game, but they could have done better on representing the locations a bit more accurately.
It’s not about representing things accurately as much as it is making fun and interesting ideas while including nods to what inspired the game world. Which they clearly aren’t pulling off with Z-A, despite having Legebds Arceus to learn from.
 
My initial opinion of legends ZA from what we've seen so far is pretty underwhelming. Obviously it's not impossible the game can turn out good but it very unlikely, especially since the graphics looks like SV's and probably will run like SV as well. TBF we still don't know that much about the game so who, knows it could turn out great (probably not though).

I've seen a lot of people who are disappointed that ZA is taking place entirely in a city but i'm personally fine with that. I've always wanted a truly urban setting for pokemon. Kinda like the gen 5 games but in a "proper" city. Will the game be as good as gen 5? extremely unlikely.

I'm fine with having "unpopular" starter options like chikorita or tepig but i still would have liked each starter to be from a different gen
Almost every single person is brown, so it's very accurate to modern Paris
You could say it's a FAITHFUL recreation of paris
 
I wonder if the recent leak came from the same source as the Teraleak. I mean, this is what they didn't want people to see?
I wonder what they have on Gen 10 now, considering that AZ is likely a dud.
Edit: This is giving me flashbacks to Sword Shield lmfao
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Palworld about to get a lot more sales when people realize it has more content and is more competently made than the latest serving of Pokemon slop, lmfao
 
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There is zero chance Typhlosion is getting anything for a long time after those recent leaks lmfao

There you go. Who the fuck even remembers Tepig? Everybody hated that thing for being the third Fire/Fighting starter in the row, should have brought one of the previous two instead.

This whole thing looks so...disappointing, I guess PLA was lighting in a bottle and all future attempts to ape it will be shit. I'm so glad I gave up on official games after USUM and started playing ROMhacks instead.
I don't think they care. This is probably a coincidence.

Having no gen 5 remake might have been a blessing. Maybe by the time they decide to work on gen 5 GF would've got their act together and decide to let some other studio take their time with it (specifically take their time), so we don't get another BDSP.
 
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No giftmons from Champions, not every Pokemon will be in and it looks like there will be rentals. I will bet my left nut they will have pay to win mechanics, such as selling you powerful "legit hack mons" for real money for example. This game is coming out on mobile as well, so everything is on the table.
DOA, unless they shut it down there is absolutely no reason not to just play Showdown. This will also completely kill whatever is left of the online battling scene in the games themselves.
I bet this is the new excuse not to give us anymore Battle Frontier or even Battle Tower BTW, "Just play Champions!"
What a joke.
Everyone's so negative, goddamn. The graphics look like PLA, and that's fine. I don't play games for graphics, I play to have fun, and the whole city idea, and what they've shown looks like a big safari zone deal. And that sounds fun!
You can play what you want, but the entire thing looks utterly generic, not just the graphics. I would unironically just play Palworld instead if I had the choice.
 
Thry should have done Snivy/Piplup and Torchic or Scorebunny. Cause France.
First they make the most exclusive restaurant in not-Paris a sushi bar and then they don't even take the opportunity to add in the starter most similar to the Gallic rooster, someone at Gamefreak must have suffered from Paris syndrome to elicit this level of hate.
 
I like how nobody here is even talking about Champions aka Showdown killer
Please, as if. The only problem here is that Gamefreak/TPCi/Nintendo might finally send them a C&D once it releases.
it seems more like a Pokémon Stadium like than it is something expressly meant for a competitive VGC series.

Alrighty now for my thoughts.
While I am disappointed with the lack of news, I think that is to be expected. It's the 29th year of Pokémon's existence. 30 years next year. They're saving things up for that. 30th anniversaries are a big deal. (let that sink in; Pokemon will be 30 years old this time next year.)


I think ZA does look fun, but with the little amount they showed, I can get why people are concerned or excited. I am excited! Disappointed with the starter selection. BUT I am more than capable of compromising to play a game. I hope they show more soon!
 
Other than that, I find the Tepig line barely memorable.
It's because it's a fire/fighting starter in an already overcrowded line of Fire/Fighting starters. Blaziken and Infernape get more attention than Emboar because they have a combination of stats and abilities that give them the upper edge. Emboar's gimmic is that he can do more damage on recoil attacks but he's slower, so he would be taking more hits than the other two, even with his big HP, his low Def/SpDef doesn't hold up.

I get the appeal for Emboar, as he kinda looks like a fire Ganon, but when even the Wrestling Zangief cat is doing better than you in the physical fire starter category, that's when you know you're in trouble.
 
it seems more like a Pokémon Stadium like than it is something expressly meant for a competitive VGC series.
Wrong, this is coming out for Mobile. They will have to downgrade animations and graphics even more so that little timmy and pajeet with no other electronics than his smartphone can both play against you on your Switch. Seeing your Pokemon in 3D moving about and being able to use them in a competitive environment was the whole point, and knowing modern Gamefreak they will fail at both in spectacular ways we can't even imagine yet.
Stadium is dead, this is poor man's Showdown. You're right in that this might be used in VGC from now on, but this will only kill interest in the online space of the new games even more, like I said.
Not including all Pokemon was a death sentence. We're actively going backwards, Japanese Stadium didn't have all Pokemon but that was a glorified beta test, every mainline and Stadium game onwards had all Pokemon until Sword/Shield. I can only imagine how disgusting the meta in Champions is going to be, the healthiest metas are the ones with the most options, not cherry picked nonsensical choices that force everyone to use the same meta teams to compete.
 
I don't even know why I still tune into these Pokemon Presents things every year, I haven't played or have wanted to play any Pokemon game after USUM. I just keep hoping they'll put out a decent game using some of their megashekels they make every fucking time but Legends ZA honestly does just look like a worse Palworld. I honestly can't believe they tried to pull the "high quality animations" card as to why they couldn't include all the Pokemon in the games anymore and they're about to put out a game in 2025 with buildings that are just squares with flat image textures on their faces. It's just a total embarrassment when you compare it to games that use the Switch's shitty hardware and manage to make nice looking games like Pikmin 4 or even something like the Xenoblade X port coming out this month which is a 10 year old game. This franchise just needs to die already, or at least go on hiatus and do a proper reboot.
 
> Dude do you remember AZ and Floette from the games you played weren't they so mysterious and interesting well uhhhh here they are right in your face go fuck yourself
Didn't AZ disappear into the afterlife or some shit at the end of XY after he as reunited with Floette? This shit is not canon, I don't accept it. Also,
> dude we have realtime battles now like so cool lol turnbased is for losers lol poggers
I hope GF's offices get KyoAni'd and this game gets permanently canceled. Fuck this gay shit. Shigeru Ohmori goes through a meatgrinder or I riot.

It's also funny to me that I spent some time planning out something like wild areas and fitting them into empty spaces in Kalos's map but then GF's just like "lol just put them in the city who gives a shit"
 
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