Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

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Tl;dr on Dynamax Raikou - It sucked.
I had fun with my group, but this fucker was buggy. We had problems getting people into groups, and the fight would bug out on some people (the UI will disappear every now and then, and I got booted out of a group). I didn't get a single good Raikou from the ones I did. A couple of people in the group helped a kid and an old lady learn how Dynamx and Gigantamax fights work. Dynamx legendaries are a major waste of time, and not worth the aggravation unless you want XL candies.

thoughts on the anime's next arc?
Still shitty and gay, but it's interesting how they're trying to push Megas to get traction. I still dislike Dot for the design alone (I hate every human design from SV and gen 9).

I seriously think they might've ditched the duck after how badly it flopped and gave Sprigatito to Liko last minute.

It's kind of a stretch, but I'm having a hard time unseeing it. The correlations are so obvious that I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone else propose this theory yet. Maybe someone has and I'm just not looking in the right places?
They're trying everything to make gen 9 relevant and popular, but I think Sprigatito and Fuecoco were always meant to be pushed because of the attention they got from SV's debut. Lyko is just a girlboss they're trying to push in the new anime (Too bad Lyko isn't popular). Roy and Dot can fuck off somewhere with Lyko.

UR LE HECKING MISOGYNISTIC IF YOU HATE LE HECKING WHOLESOME 100 QUIRK CHUNGUS CHIKORITA

I WAS LE HECKING HARRASSED *doesn't give any examples in the video*

Leftist fag-cunt tries to virtue signal and cries about criticism. More news at 11.

Haruka Tochigi (this is the only real English source I can find on his identity lol, sorry for the wikia link. if you know Japanese or trust online translators, here's his employee biography and interview (with Ohmori) for more info) has never directed a game before. He's done a lot of art direction, especially in regards to CG and character design (unsure of whether that relates to Pokémon or humans? it's never specified as far as I can tell), and used to make a lot of art for the Professor Layton games at Level-5. This would be the first game he's directing, and given that he's a newer employee (joined in 2013) with roots in the Gear Project he's probably not Team A (like I'd originally expected), but I haven't got very high hopes since I'm not really sure how doing a lot of art would qualify anyone to direct an entire game. I might be missing something though, I don't know enough about the process to comment.

I do find it pretty interesting how he seems to be playing a lot of indie games, and has explicitly stated that he's watching how people play PLA to try and see what he can learn from it, but I'm not sure that has any bearing on how he's actually going to run Z-A. He's also posting a lot about his own game on his Twitter (tagging it with "#indie" so I don't think it's a GameFreak title; rather, just a personal project), so he's at least been trying his hand at game dev for some time now. Notably, he also seems to think that most AAA titles "look too similar" despite their polish, and is actively trying to do things differently (written in his biography; Japanese so it might be mistranslated)... which would explain a lot, lol.
Yea, I'm skipping ZA. This is a red flag if I haven't seen one.
 
I hate chikorita because chikorita is weak to the first two gyms. It's really demoralizing to use chikorita when you're a kid, and you don't know to grind.
I would link the Imported Cheese vid, but let's put it like this: Chikorita's matchups in Johto are ass and there's no real way around it. Gym 1 is rough as is gym two, but you'd think it gets better from there right? Not really. Whitney's a wash at best and it only lucks out in not getting Rollout stomped. You have the Johto Gym Split after that, but it's rough. The Ghost/Poison gym? Yeah, it eats Chikorita alive. Steel Gym? You're not really doing much physically to it and the Steelix is bringing all the pain. The Fighting gym is the only one where you gain some traction because you do well against Poliwrath. The Ice Gym is a very polarizing one - while Meganium is super effective thanks to the secondary water and ground typings in the gym the gym's also hitting you super effectively with each and every mon. The Dragon Gym is bad for Meganium too as you're getting Neutral at best against Kingdra.

The only starter that is comparable to Chikorita is Snivy and even then Snivy had a gym it did well against which is more than Chikorita can say.
 
I would link the Imported Cheese vid, but let's put it like this: Chikorita's matchups in Johto are ass and there's no real way around it. Gym 1 is rough as is gym two, but you'd think it gets better from there right? Not really. Whitney's a wash at best and it only lucks out in not getting Rollout stomped. You have the Johto Gym Split after that, but it's rough. The Ghost/Poison gym? Yeah, it eats Chikorita alive. Steel Gym? You're not really doing much physically to it and the Steelix is bringing all the pain. The Fighting gym is the only one where you gain some traction because you do well against Poliwrath. The Ice Gym is a very polarizing one - while Meganium is super effective thanks to the secondary water and ground typings in the gym the gym's also hitting you super effectively with each and every mon. The Dragon Gym is bad for Meganium too as you're getting Neutral at best against Kingdra.

The only starter that is comparable to Chikorita is Snivy and even then Snivy had a gym it did well against which is more than Chikorita can say.
In a game where you can pick totodile and evolve it early, there was never a point in picking fag potato monster over anything
 
In a game where you can pick totodile and evolve it early, there was never a point in picking fag potato monster over anything
Chikorita is the Gen2 version of Charmander only to a little more extreme. It's basically "hard mode" where you either grind your ass off to get it to a level where it demolishes everything or you have teammates that help you along the way.

It's like how some people give themselves artificial difficulties in other old RPGs (like Final Fantasy using only one specific class) or even why Nuzlocke is a thing. Gamers like to have some sort of challenge to make the game a little more interesting, especially if it's not their first time playing the game, and Pokemon is perfect for that.

I once grinded a Rattata up to lv 20 to evolve it into a Raticate so I can beat Brock's rock pokemon. Why? Because I wanted to, partially out of sheer boredom, but to see if one could actually get through it.
 
People don't like Chikorita because it sucks, simple as. I tried using this thing before, it just doesn't work. Balancing in Gen 2 overall was ass, so it's not like this is the only victim, as a matter of fact most of the new Gen 2 Pokemon were ass and we needed crossgen evos in Gen 4 to fix that.
The thumbnail for this "cecilly" looks like a troon btw
 
People don't like Chikorita because it sucks, simple as. I tried using this thing before, it just doesn't work. Balancing in Gen 2 overall was ass, so it's not like this is the only victim, as a matter of fact most of the new Gen 2 Pokemon were ass and we needed crossgen evos in Gen 4 to fix that.
The thumbnail for this "cecilly" looks like a troon btw
It doesn't help that the few really good gen 2 mons were all postgame or hidden away. There's no reason that Houndour had to be hidden away near fucking Celadon. Heracross is nice but it's hidden off in some trees too. I'm still convinced that Noctowl exists to make the Pidgey line look good.
 
I'm still convinced that Noctowl exists to make the Pidgey line look good.
GameFreak did some really weird shit when it came to stats and movelists before the physical/special split. Noctowl is made to be a special attacker, but almost all of it's moves use physical types, including it's 2 STABs. Night Shade is it's only "threatening" attacking move, but it's fixed damage. Maybe if Hypnosis didn't have garbage accuracy it could have abused dream eater and MAYBE Nightmare a bit better. Otherwise it's not doing diddly-squat with Confusion.

Unless you say "fuck it" and give it curse like all the competitive players were apparently doing back then.
 
GameFreak did some really weird shit when it came to stats and movelists before the physical/special split. Noctowl is made to be a special attacker, but almost all of it's moves use physical types, including it's 2 STABs. Night Shade is it's only "threatening" attacking move, but it's fixed damage. Maybe if Hypnosis didn't have garbage accuracy it could have abused dream eater and MAYBE Nightmare a bit better. Otherwise it's not doing diddly-squat with Confusion.

Unless you say "fuck it" and give it curse like all the competitive players were apparently doing back then.
As SpaceWorld beta shows, there was a massive restructuring in the last minute and a whole bunch of Pokemon got scrapped, redesigned or completely changed. Not everything must have been properly tested for balance.
Speaking of awful Gen 2 decisions, I am so glad they stopped putting in wild Pokemon that have a random chance of escaping. Fuck that, it's one thing if you have roaming Legendaries or Pokemon with Roar, but if you encounter something rare in the grass and it has a 30% chance to flee every turn, you're fucked.
 
I hate chikorita because chikorita is weak to the first two gyms. It's really demoralizing to use chikorita when you're a kid, and you don't know to grind.
And it dosent get any better. Whitney will still stomp you with Milktank and Mortys ghosts are poison. The fighting gym is the only time you at an advantage beacuse of poliwrath but then get double cucked by Jasmine and Pryce. Man, playing Chikorita is indeed the Dark Souls of Pokemon.

And now i hear you say "why dont you catch other pokemon to even things out?" The problem with that is Johto selection of pokemon is fucking garbage.
 
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And it dosent get any better. Whitney will still stomp you with Milktank and Mortys ghosts can use poison. The fighting gym is the only time you at an advantage beacuse of poliwrath but then get double cucked by Jasmine and Pryce. Man, playing Chikorita is indeed the Dark Souls of Pokemon.

And now i hear you say "why dont you catch other pokemon to even things out?" The problem with that is Johto selection of pokemon is fucking garbage.
Graveler, Ampharos, and Kadabra were on all gen 2 teams for a reason. Outside those pickings started dropping off hard, and more importantly you could get them all right before wild battles got horrifying under leveled.
 
Does anyone recommend any fangames (maybe romhacks?) that don't follow the traditional Pokémon formula? I've played PokéClicker, Pokémon Tower Defense, PokéFarm Q etc.
 
notorious Exp issues right after Ecruteak.
this isn't Chikorita-exclusive lol, Chikorita just gets the short end of the stick because it sucks with the gyms. Gen 2 in general has this problem; if you want to add a new team member past Ecruteak you're basically SOL unless you spend 8+ hours grinding on the lowest-level wild pocket monsters you've ever seen.

Does anyone recommend any fangames (maybe romhacks?) that don't follow the traditional Pokémon formula? I've played PokéClicker, Pokémon Tower Defense, PokéFarm Q etc.
Emerald Rogue is a good one even if 2.0 is overly difficult for no real reason. I enjoyed the 1.0 versions (even though they really are pretty huge downgrades) and the game itself can be pretty fun in short bursts. Despite the dev being a tranny, he's pretty quiet about it. Literal only time you'd ever know is if you looked hard at his profile picture or went into a secret room in a mostly-irrelevant building.

1.0 has character customization, town-building, meta progression and surprisingly decent balancing,
2.0 has all of this, expanded, as well as challenges/quests that feed into the town-building, rideable Pokémon, following Pokémon, a larger selection of Pokémon, a bunch of new features, and a few completely new routes to traverse alongside 1.0's transplants from mainline games. It also has multiplayer, but due to it involving some shit to do with IP addresses and having no other friends autistic enough to do this stuff with me, I never got to give it a shot.

2.0 really is worth the upgrade even if it's a bit of a pain in the ass. It has difficulty settings (I was playing on Normal) with granular customization if you want to do something like remove all Pokémon of a certain generation or make trainers harder. 1.0 doesn't have this, but it does have two versions: "classic" (which sticks solely to generations 1-3, no gimmicks, old sprites, etc.) which I greatly enjoyed and "EX," which is the recommended version but stuffs in all that NuGen bloat. It's got every gimmick, every mon, DS sprites, etc. Did not like it nearly as much.

Anyways, go give it a shot. I genuinely think it's one of the better unconventional ROM hacks out there and it's a shame that it seems to have been overshadowed by Pokerogue's retarded controversies.

If you want something that vaguely follows the traditional formula but completely (and I do mean completely) overhauls the battling system, I think I'd have to recommend Pokémon Tectonic. It's such a drastic overhaul that it can be a little overwhelming, but I found it interesting enough. Never managed to get too far into it because I quickly lost the time unfortunately. I can't give a very in-depth review as a result, but I'll just say that even the first hour or two is rather surprising and it's quite a challenge to get ahold of all the new features and strategies the battling system opens up to you.

Rocket Red is probably stretching the definition of "non-traditional formula", but you play as a Rocket grunt doing Rocket grunt things and getting promotions so I felt it worth mentioning. Story's a bit edgy but it's a little endearing until like 3/4 of the way through, when it gets so completely fucking insane that you can't help but laugh. Was supposed to get a huge 2.0 update in 2023 that got cancelled/indefinitely postponed because the trannies over at Pokecommunity threw a multi-page fit in 2021 (that got completely deleted, because of course) over a one-off tranny line near the end of the game. This, understandably, pissed the author off enough to remove the download link from Pokecommunity for years and eventually led to him rescinding the revamp for an original game of his that's supposed to act as a spiritual successor.
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All that drama aside, give the game a shot if it sounds fun. It was quite a bit of fun, at least to me, so I recommend it wherever I can.

I would probably recommend Pokémon Crown if it had a single download available, but it's been over 3 years and the fucking thing doesn't even have a beta. If you still have hope and want to see what real-time battling in 2D might look like, in a medieval setting, it might be worth keeping an eye on.

I've heard good things about Pokewilds, but from what I understand the dev team is full of retarded incompetent trannies and they haven't done any work on the game for a year and a half now. There was some drama, I think, that I can't remember for the life of me. Nevertheless, it's Pokémon but survival. Try it, I guess.

If you want "Pokémon but survival" except good, I must insert my obligatory Cobblemon shilling section because this fucking mod has stolen hundreds of hours of my life at this point. It's technically just a Minecraft mod that adds Pokémon into an existing game, but the usual formula (gyms e4 champion etc.) is absolutely nowhere to be seen and a lot of the emphasis is just on hanging out with your bros while you build cool shit or go fishing. There are add-ons that add trainers (as well as loads of add-ons in general), and future plans to include gym leaders + regular trainers and such, but none of them are officially implemented into the game yet so if you want to avoid that formula then Cobblemon's your man.

I hope I could be of service. Despite the plethora of ROM hacks out there, basically none of them are interested in doing something new with the formula unless it's for a GameJam. :/
 
this isn't Chikorita-exclusive lol, Chikorita just gets the short end of the stick because it sucks with the gyms. Gen 2 in general has this problem; if you want to add a new team member past Ecruteak you're basically SOL unless you spend 8+ hours grinding on the lowest-level wild pocket monsters you've ever seen.
I already said that in the post. The idea is that gen 2 is already hurting bad for EXP thanks to that split s you really don't have the time to baby Chikorita. Not when you can be using Totodile with the busted rage or Cyndaquil that gets actual type coverage (even if that Whitney fight is rough). I'd defend Chikorita if it had a niche but it's a gen late for Razor leaf spam and it's Blastoise with a much worse typing and coverage.
 
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