I don't know a single person that was vocal about Dexit and played the newer entries. Casuals need not apply, I can shit in a Pikachu themed paper bag and someone would still buy it, that's nothing to brag about. I personally haven't played those games and have no plans to.
Sword and Shield are the third best selling games in a fanbase that has steadily trended older over the past three decades. Your low IQ response to a general statement of “it doesn’t apply to me personally, it must be casuals,” should be completely discarded. The fact of the matter is the poor game design by GF has been unprecedentedly rewarded by the very fanbase that claimed to be upset by said downward trend in quality.
You can't read it seems. I just said that you can sell literally anything under the Pokemon brand and it will sell. This isn't new, and it doesn't mean that fans took Dexit well either. Casuals who play the game for an hour aren't "fans" and that's where most of these sales came from, most actual fans I know didn't buy SwSh, they didn't buy SV and a few pirated Arceus since they don't want to give Nintendo or TPCi money. And for reference, I don't consider anyone who bought these two games to be fans, paypigs maybe but not true fans. Same goes for anyone who supports Dexit, they're no better than the COD or FIFA/Madden players who buy their games yearly no matter what. All the Pokemon in the same game is the entire gimmick, without it you have nothing, and not like these two games are even worth playing anyways.
All you have to do is look at the users in this very thread who largely agree about Dexit and are still buying the fucking merchandise.
I know arguing with you is actually retarded, I’ve seen the hills you’re willing to die on, but this merits a very quick response - Kids and Normies are Pokemon’s actual target audience, you fucktard. While there’s substantial overlap from autistic people who’ve invested decades into collecting, they’re very much not the priority.
Having seen 30+’s stance on most anything - see any time he brought up The Outer Worlds in his post history as an easy example - him being a disingenuous, pedantic fucktard is unfortunately in character.
Most users in this thread don't strike me as awfully professional fans. Casuals, maybe, I believe I said something to that effect before. Either way, my point stands, you're not a serious fan of the franchise if you still support the games post-Dexit. It shows that your priorities don't lie with the strong suits on the franchise and instead lie with the casual side of the fandom, ie a Fifa player that will buy the next product no matter what, the target audience Gamefreak depends on. At some point, you have to have a little self-respect and not buy a product that simply shows you no respect, but I guess that's too much to ask from some people.
So you have no receipts and are full of shit, then. Why should I be listening to you, again?
You do realize that Pokemon is more popular with adults these days than kids, right? Unless we're talking about Japan, little Billy is more likely to play Subway Surfers or Fortnite instead of Pokemon, unless it's Pokemon Go on his phone. When you account for every soyboy and casual gamer who owns a Switch, chances are that they own the game simply because it is one of the "premier" titles on the console, no matter how stupid that sounds. Same reason why you likely owned Halo of some kind if you bought an Xbox, might as well since it is an exclusive. Also, Showdown exists so if you just want to go for competitive, there is zero reason to own the games. Moreover, more often than not zoomies just play ROMs of older games on their phones, namely the GBA or Gameboy titles. Unless they already own a Switch, there is zero reason to seek out these games as there is no incentive to buy an entire console for them.
Correct, but this doesn't make them "fans". They are the "intended audience", fan is someone who played the games within the franchise for years, got invested into it, participated in the community, maybe made content based off the franchise. Some nobody who only buys the game to catch Pikachu and forgets about it after 2 hours isn't a "fan' and that's what most of the people you are referring to are. I know most people in this thread are raging casuals, at least when it comes to the games, so not like I would imagine this distinction means anything to you, but believe me there is one.
Nigger, we are discussing the series in an Internet forum, I doubt you could find a more succinct qualifier to be a “fan.”
Monetarily rewarding the degradation of a product through any venue is the issue.
I provided an answer. And if we’re going to be this way, you yourself have not provided any examples beyond yourself.
Nigger that’s exactly my point.
I regularly visit the Elder Scrolls, Half Life, Halo and other threads on this subforum, but I wouldn't consider myself a "fan" of any of these franchises. I played them, sure, but I am not as much into them as others. Again, you don't know what that word means.
Pokemon is the biggest media company in the world. In. The. World. The only ones who should suffer is Gamefreak and Niantic because they make shitty games, the TCG or the merch division has nothing to do with it. Your post is getting dumber by the minute.
So you have no receipts, no way to backup your statement and you don't intend to look for it, but you're an asshurt nigger who needs to get in the last word, then. Gotcha, that's how you know you're arguing with someone who doesn't know what they're talking about, and I accept your concession. Surely, now you won't make another seething response to me to show how your feelings totally weren't hurt by you being proven wrong on all counts.
Yes, most casuals aren't kids anymore and therefore they're adults. That means we can treat them as such. Everyone who played Pokemon in the 90s was a super duper fan, until the new games, Gold and Silver, came out and the Pokecraze was fading. It was not "cool" to play these games anymore. Now all of a sudden, there is a higher tier of entry to be called a fan of the franchise rather than a casual tourist when the disinterested passerbies can't be bothered to engage with the franchise. Everyone and their mother played at least one of these games at some point(with the Switch games possibly being their first, poor bastards) but unless they engage to a higher degree with the fandom, they aren't "fans". Guess what, vast majority and by that I mean maybe 85% of these people aren't fans, they play the game and then forget about it, most often don't even finish it. That's franchise tourism if I ever seen it, and no I don't care if they play Pokemon GO on the side. At this point you might as well consider yourself an Elon Musk fan simply because you browse Twitter, everyone does it.
Your definition of "fan" is so narrow that it is useless as a descriptor. I, and likely the entire thread, disagree with your definition and so no further argument could be productive because we disagree on the basis of your argument.
Definition doesn't change just because maybe 95% of the thread are casuals and don't fit that description. I just pulled that number out of my ass, but our friend McMitch doesn't care about providing proof for his statement, so I guess I'm in the clear here. Weren't you the one who cried to me that competitive in Pokemon is "too hard" or "too complicated" or something? You're the poster girl for the blind, casual consoomer fanbase we are talking about here.
Yeah, pretty much, but even then there is a difference between a child and a manchild. Just like there is a clear distinction between a fan and a passerby tourist.
Definitions change all the fucking time which is why it's a prerequisite to check if people have the same definition of key terms before engaging in good faith arguments.
I'm a guy. There are no women on the Internet, Beauty Parlor is a larp.
Not just in this series, but in other series, fans will also hate-buy shit. Maybe out of misplaced hope it will be good, maybe chasing fleeting nostalgia memberberries, maybe just so that they can bitch about it later.
I think that is the main point.
I blam either:
Even accepting this metric: that’s still $270 million, minimum, given to TPC for a substandard product by people who knew better.
This provides no obligation to continue purchasing what is an advertisement for a core product, one which has been floundering in quality for a decade.
Not real fans, they can call themselves all they want but I would just call them consoomerist retards.
If you don't provide hard evidence to back up your claims, I don't see any purpose in replying to you. This might work on reddit for you, it won't work on me.
Oh thank goodness. He's done.
This simply means that the entire game IS the tutorial and there is nothing substantive once you complete it. Even less reason to play the newer games, at least SwSh still kept Battle Tower for as awful as the rest of the game was. I guess that still required a few too many brain cells for the average player, so it had to go.
Could have fooled me with that passive-aggressive seething. All I did was call you a casual and it seems I am right, no need to menstruate about it.