Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

[Gar For Archer]

Seems like every day there's something new to sperg about with this game. Most of the changes i don't really care about, the only thing i don't like is the exp share. Graphics are fine to me, music is fine to me, the new mons are pretty interesting to me and i'm happy Gyms are back one of the things i look forward to the most in each game is the gym gimmicks.

XP Share isn’t perfect but it’s hell of a lot better than switch training, which is neither fun nor interesting. In the short term, the gameplay disincentivizes you from evenly leveling your team, and unless you actively make the effort to do so, one or two of your Pokémon WILL end up grossly over-leveled. I’ve always had a problem with sticking to a team mid-game, because I’ll reach a point where the wild Pokémon are 2-3 levels above the weaker half of my team and it makes more sense to catch a whole new set of Pokémon than to continue grinding the ones I have already.

 

[Eekum Bokum]

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as if reusing assets weren't enough, now they're reusing 3ds technology

What am i missing here?

Cant wait for ecelebs to pick 1 of 2 sides. Bootlicker, or dumbfuck bandwagon who is gonna show me a picture of a tree and talk about da graphics...

Why can't there just be a middle ground? all i see online is either blind devotion or pure ridicule things like "this is the best game ever" and "imagine paying money for this" and i don't know if i'm just being a fag or whatever but i sometimes get a bit anxious when i'm excited for a game and all i see online is pure hatred over even the smallest details.

I get the game has issues but i think some people are just being a bit too hyperbolic

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

That's the unfortunate thing though, the console games from Stadium to Battle Revolution more than proved Pokemon in 3D could be done well with charm to spare (just the fainting animations alone are full of personality for many of them). But once again when Game Freak does it, everything all falls apart. If they were a decent sized group of developers (let's say 300 strong at the minimum, more than double what they have now) with proper management and communication like the majority of other AAA IP teams, there's not a doubt in my mind the dreams of a fully realized HD console Pokemon experience would be a reality.

But sadly, that is not the timeline we reside in...

Honestly, I feel it would be better if they didn't try to put every pokemon in every one the mainline games. Have each game have their new pokemon with some older ones showing up there (preferably with a little something different about them), but have all the pokemon come together in a spin-off series where you train them and have them duke it out with pokemon across the other regions.

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

Honestly, I feel it would be better if they didn't try to put every pokemon in every one the mainline games. Have each game have their new pokemon with some older ones showing up there (preferably with a little something different about them), but have all the pokemon come together in a spin-off series where you train them and have them duke it out with pokemon across the other regions.

That's what hopefuls are saying Home is going to have, but until we see officially just what is in that thing I'm not holding my breath for anything. Something like their own version of Showdown would be nice, but it'd still have issues (say if some mons completely miss out of a generation and don't get access to new moves).

 

[Coelacanth]

Imagine finding a shiny in the wild area but you cant get it due to not having enough gym badges due to them being over your level cap

If this is 100% confirmed then my god that's a terrifying thought. The newer games have never been that good for an old school, full-odds hunter like me but this? This only gives me another reason not to get these games. Imagine trying to do a goddamn badge/nick quest and spending hours upon hours of time trying to find a shiny, only to be told "lol you can't catch this you've only got two badges sorry!" when you finally get it. Holy shit.

 

[Sangria]

What am i missing here?

Trainers still disappear off the field during certain attacks despite the Switch being more than capable of rendering them and more detailed moves on one screen.
It's not even like the move used, Incinerate, had much detail.

 

[OddEyes]

Honestly, I feel it would be better if they didn't try to put every pokemon in every one the mainline games. Have each game have their new pokemon with some older ones showing up there (preferably with a little something different about them), but have all the pokemon come together in a spin-off series where you train them and have them duke it out with pokemon across the other regions.

That's what hopefuls are saying Home is going to have, but until we see officially just what is in that thing I'm not holding my breath for anything. Something like their own version of Showdown would be nice, but it'd still have issues (say if some mons completely miss out of a generation and don't get access to new moves).

Yes, Colosseum and XD Gale of Darkness were great, no arguments there, although, the Character design for the second Protagonist was off ... Like no joke:

Dear god, what is wrong with your face?!

Wes was a breath of fresh air for a protagonist

Also, his manga version was kick ass:

Like, I would totally pay top dollar for a full on pokemon game where you played as a character like Wes.

But, back onto point, Yes, those games did prove that 3d pokemon games can work, yes, those games should be handled by the people who made them (Genius Sorority) - But I would like to point out that Genius Sorority has shares owned by both Nintendo and the PKM company.

From what I understand from research, Genius Sorority has been working on their own projects like Denpa Men. They were also responsible for the mediocre Dragon Quest Swords for the Wii.

Granted, I don't know what they're doing now, but you would think that Nintendo and Gamefreak would work in tandem with this company. Especially considering that a lot of the workers from Genius Sorority were from companies that worked on the Dragon Quest series.

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

That's what hopefuls are saying Home is going to have, but until we see officially just what is in that thing I'm not holding my breath for anything. Something like their own version of Showdown would be nice, but it'd still have issues (say if some mons completely miss out of a generation and don't get access to new moves).

You can count me as one of them. Maybe JUST MAYBE, after this whole mess, they can learn from this and take the series in that direction and causing it to improve overall. I just hope they don't just listen to dexit and assume people are only upset about lack of all the mons.

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

To probably nobody's surprise, there's a move Dexit now too. At this point I was outright expecting it.

Sword/Shield Snapped moves - Pastebin.com

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Mostly the obvious Z-moves and the Pikachu/Eevee Let's Go moves, but they've also cut essential staples like Hidden Power and Return. What the actual shit are they doing?

And they also cut Jump Kick, right after my boy Dodrio acquired it last gen for some much-needed coverage. Nice to know GF is basically pissing on my favorite mon's grave.

 

[Eekum Bokum]

Were Hidden power and Return really essential? i never used them except for return on a Eevee because all the other moves it had were trash.

 

[Hideous K]

To probably nobody's surprise, there's a move Dexit now too. At this point I was outright expecting it.

Sword/Shield Snapped moves - Pastebin.com

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Mostly the obvious Z-moves and the Pikachu/Eevee Let's Go moves, but they've also cut essential staples like Hidden Power and Return. What the actual shit are they doing?

And they also cut Jump Kick, right after my boy Dodrio acquired it last gen for some much-needed coverage. Nice to know GF is basically pissing on my favorite mon's grave.

this is the worst railroading I've ever seen since Sun and Moon, what was the point of cutting every pokemon and pokemon moves?

 

[MightyBiteySnake]

I get why most of these moves were cut, as they were mostly gimmick moves with little use (egg bomb for example was a normal type physical move with low base power only learned by Chansey and exeggutor)

What I'm more interested by is the cut of moves like pursuit, hidden power, and return. I'd imagine they have some kind of hidden power replacement that now can include fairy moves in the formula?

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

Were Hidden power and Return really essential? i never used them except for return on a Eevee because all the other moves it had were trash.

Return was great for Normal types who didn't have better STAB options. And while it usually isn't very useful for story stuff most of the time, Hidden Power is essential to competitive play for the sheer coverage it can provide. To name a couple examples, Electric types are notorious for their lack of coverage, but HP can give them an Ice or Grass move to hit would-be counters. And HP Fire is what made Magnet Pull such a good ability for mons like Magnezone, as it can trap and eliminate other Steel types with such a combo.

 

[Love Machine]

Sometimes im astounded by how big of cock suckers pokemon fans are.

As for moves getting cut, Its about variety, it i want to play a pokemon game woth 50 moves ill play smogon shit.

 

[Gar For Archer]

PKM shouldn't have gone 3d.

Seriously, if they had kept to the 2d style of BW2, with the animated sprites - the following complaints wouldn't happen:
1) No limited dex - Sprites wouldn't take as much data, obviously
2) The sprites would be a lot easier to develop as well as the pixel art, and more could be put into the games
3) 2d sprites are still applicable today - Heck, make a game like Octopath traveler style for PKM


Seriously, I know people wanted pokemon to go 3d for a long time, but ever since it did, the games just didn't have that charm.

The 3D trainer and Pokémon models just look completely dead-eyed. They don’t put nearly enough effort into the animations for the 3D models to not look a little bit creepy, just sitting there in their idle loop. The 2D trainer sprites ironically are way more expressive, because they leave room for the imagination - whereas in 3D you just SEE them staring blankly back at you, so it’s hard to fill in emotions/personality when there demonstrably is none.

 

[Love Machine]

Sprite rip
Notable inclusions are:
>Venusaur and Blastoise
>Gen 7 starters
>Fire/Ice Zen Mode Galarian Darmanitan
>Gigantamax Snorlax
>Gigantamax Melmetal
>Gigantamax Sandaconda
>Gigantamax Toxtricity
>Polteageist Gender Differences
>Cramorant with Pikachu in mouth
>Mythicals and Legendaries

 

[OddEyes]

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Sprite rip
Notable inclusions are:
>Venusaur and Blastoise
>Gen 7 starters
>Fire/Ice Zen Mode Galarian Darmanitan
>Gigantamax Snorlax
>Gigantamax Melmetal
>Gigantamax Sandaconda
>Gigantamax Toxtricity
>Polteageist Gender Differences
>Cramorant with Pikachu in mouth
>Mythicals and Legendaries

... Huh... Are those from the games or fanmade? I assume game cause ripped, but...

 

[Love Machine]

... Huh... Are those from the games or fanmade? I assume game cause ripped, but...

From the game

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

>Cramorant with Pikachu in mouth

I always knew he could deepthroat a Pikachu.

 

[Rotollo]

Current stream: https://www.twitch.tv/princesswiki
god the leaker is a legit turbo brainlet
No creative credits sequence or hall of fame, truly soulless

to this day I'm not sure if this post cursed this to happen or saw into the future

Cant wait for ecelebs to pick 1 of 2 sides. Bootlicker, or dumbfuck bandwagon who is gonna show me a picture of a tree and talk about da graphics...

I just want someone to make a plinkett-esque review of these games and focusing on how the SUMO structure is shit for player engagment but the only vidya analysis that exists are 10 hour video essays by a guy who sounds barely alive or "HAHA FUNNI MAYMAY VIDEO" I want someone to go through this game with a fine tooth comb without being a humorless prick

To probably nobody's surprise, there's a move Dexit now too. At this point I was outright expecting it.

Sword/Shield Snapped moves - Pastebin.com

pastebin.com

Mostly the obvious Z-moves and the Pikachu/Eevee Let's Go moves, but they've also cut essential staples like Hidden Power and Return. What the actual shit are they doing?

And they also cut Jump Kick, right after my boy Dodrio acquired it last gen for some much-needed coverage. Nice to know GF is basically pissing on my favorite mon's grave.

At this point they might as well just get rid of friendship values as all they do is elongate evolution times with a hidden value if it doesn't even have return or frustration to pay off with.

Yes, Colosseum and XD Gale of Darkness were great, no arguments there, although, the Character design for the second Protagonist was off ... Like no joke:

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Dear god, what is wrong with your face?!

Wes was a breath of fresh air for a protagonist View attachment 1005622 Also, his manga version was kick ass:

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Like, I would totally pay top dollar for a full on pokemon game where you played as a character like Wes.

But, back onto point, Yes, those games did prove that 3d pokemon games can work, yes, those games should be handled by the people who made them (Genius Sorority) - But I would like to point out that Genius Sorority has shares owned by both Nintendo and the PKM company.

From what I understand from research, Genius Sorority has been working on their own projects like Denpa Men. They were also responsible for the mediocre Dragon Quest Swords for the Wii.

Granted, I don't know what they're doing now, but you would think that Nintendo and Gamefreak would work in tandem with this company. Especially considering that a lot of the workers from Genius Sorority were from companies that worked on the Dragon Quest series.

I genuinely believe at this point game freak just wants to do as much as it can without outside help, not realizing how much of a recipe for a disaster that is in the HD era.

View attachment 1005692

Sprite rip
Notable inclusions are:
>Venusaur and Blastoise
>Gen 7 starters
>Fire/Ice Zen Mode Galarian Darmanitan
>Gigantamax Snorlax
>Gigantamax Melmetal
>Gigantamax Sandaconda
>Gigantamax Toxtricity
>Polteageist Gender Differences
>Cramorant with Pikachu in mouth
>Mythicals and Legendaries

This just convinces me that (along with the forgen status some of these mons have in data) that they were planning on adding the nat dex but ran out of time, probably working on the leaves or some stupid shit since yeah gen 1 starters make sence, but why gen 7's